Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
p.45 #1Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
nmerc_photos wrote:
I found the 600TC much heavier on paper than expected (~1lb difference), but I don't notice it at all in actual practice.
Like you - I found myself almost always at 560/784/800.
I haven't used my 600TC a ton since I got it, but I think it ended up being the right choice for me. We'll know more during my 2 weeks in the Tetons/Yellowstone in October.
Interesting. My Z 600TC weighs in at 3.450gms which is 7lbs 8oz - no lens coat but original hood. According to your scales showing 8lbs 4.8oz, that is 3765gms. The lens coat and Zemlin Hood must add up to about 315gms!
Anyway, I am supremely glad I went with the 600TC instead of the Z400TC as I am almost always at 600mm and 840mm. The weight difference from my old 400 f2.8E FL VR was huge - the total for the 400 f2.8E FL VR + FTZ + original hood + 1.4x TCIII = 4.450kg!! 1kg more than the Z600TC! I certainly notice that difference!
I have no issue wielding the Z600TC around, whereas the 400 f2.8E FL VR was getting a little difficult, especially above shoulder height.
lukemeup wrote
Getting used to the weight and handling. I use this setup 100% without tripod and I keep asking myself if I'd be able to handle 600TC the same way (I find myself at 560mm a lot here, but when I'm not - I'm blown away by the quality of 400 2.8)Like you - I found myself almost always at 560/784/800.
I haven't used my 600TC a ton since I got it, but I think it ended up being the right choice for me. We'll know more during my 2 weeks in the Tetons/Yellowstone in October.
Interesting. My Z 600TC weighs in at 3.450gms which is 7lbs 8oz - no lens coat but original hood. According to your scales showing 8lbs 4.8oz, that is 3765gms. The lens coat and Zemlin Hood must add up to about 315gms!
Anyway, I am supremely glad I went with the 600TC instead of the Z400TC as I am almost always at 600mm and 840mm. The weight difference from my old 400 f2.8E FL VR was huge - the total for the 400 f2.8E FL VR + FTZ + original hood + 1.4x TCIII = 4.450kg!! 1kg more than the Z600TC! I certainly notice that difference!
I have no issue wielding the Z600TC around, whereas the 400 f2.8E FL VR was getting a little difficult, especially above shoulder height.Sep 12, 2024 at 01:05 AM
p.45 #2Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Lance B wrote:
I found the 600TC much heavier on paper than expected (~1lb difference), but I don't notice it at all in actual practice.
Like you - I found myself almost always at 560/784/800.
I haven't used my 600TC a ton since I got it, but I think it ended up being the right choice for me. We'll know more during my 2 weeks in the Tetons/Yellowstone in October.Interesting. My Z 600TC weighs in at 3.450gms which is 7lbs 8oz - no lens coat but original hood. According to your scales showing 8lbs 4.8oz, that is 3765gms. The lens coat and Zemlin Hood must add up to about 315gms!
Anyway, I am supremely glad I went with the 600TC instead of the Z400TC as I am almost always at 600mm and 840mm. The weight difference from my old 400 f2.8E FL VR was huge - the total for the 400 f2.8E FL VR + FTZ + original hood + 1.4x TCIII = 4.450kg!! 1kg more than the Z600TC!...Show more →
Regarding mass and the difference between the 400TC and 600TC, I think an argument can be made for replacing the 400TC with the 600TC if your primary interest is smaller subjects. In addition, if you spend most of your time pursuing large animals that are at a distance, the 600TC will close the gap while maximizing subject size in the frame.
On the other hand, there is an equal counter argument to using the 400TC. The lighter weight does allow one to hold the lens at eye level for longer times. At 5'9" and 150lb, my arms are what they are, and the 600TC would result in lowering the camera and lens more often than the 400TC. Furthermore, the reduction in length allows me to carry my lens and camera with hood attached is 36L bag that fits in overhead bins on most aircraft. The latter also allows me to carry 3 bodies and 2 other lenses in the same bag.... this makes for a full kit in one bag that's ready to go. Finally, I like to shoot in early morning light and being able to shoot at f/2.8-f/3.5 translates to lower ISOs... see the two attached images shot at ISO 20000 (yes!). The more we push the ISO, the less detail we capture.
regards,
bruce
nmerc_photos wrote
lukemeup wrote
Getting used to the weight and handling. I use this setup 100% without tripod and I keep asking myself if I'd be able to handle 600TC the same way (I find myself at 560mm a lot here, but when I'm not - I'm blown away by the quality of 400 2.8)Like you - I found myself almost always at 560/784/800.
I haven't used my 600TC a ton since I got it, but I think it ended up being the right choice for me. We'll know more during my 2 weeks in the Tetons/Yellowstone in October.
Anyway, I am supremely glad I went with the 600TC instead of the Z400TC as I am almost always at 600mm and 840mm. The weight difference from my old 400 f2.8E FL VR was huge - the total for the 400 f2.8E FL VR + FTZ + original hood + 1.4x TCIII = 4.450kg!! 1kg more than the Z600TC!...Show more →
Regarding mass and the difference between the 400TC and 600TC, I think an argument can be made for replacing the 400TC with the 600TC if your primary interest is smaller subjects. In addition, if you spend most of your time pursuing large animals that are at a distance, the 600TC will close the gap while maximizing subject size in the frame.
On the other hand, there is an equal counter argument to using the 400TC. The lighter weight does allow one to hold the lens at eye level for longer times. At 5'9" and 150lb, my arms are what they are, and the 600TC would result in lowering the camera and lens more often than the 400TC. Furthermore, the reduction in length allows me to carry my lens and camera with hood attached is 36L bag that fits in overhead bins on most aircraft. The latter also allows me to carry 3 bodies and 2 other lenses in the same bag.... this makes for a full kit in one bag that's ready to go. Finally, I like to shoot in early morning light and being able to shoot at f/2.8-f/3.5 translates to lower ISOs... see the two attached images shot at ISO 20000 (yes!). The more we push the ISO, the less detail we capture.
regards,
bruce
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 560mm f/4.0 1/200s 20000 ISO +1.3 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 560mm f/4.0 1/80s 20000 ISO +1.3 EV
Sep 12, 2024 at 10:00 AM
p.45 #3Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
OwlsEyes wrote:
I found the 600TC much heavier on paper than expected (~1lb difference), but I don't notice it at all in actual practice.
Like you - I found myself almost always at 560/784/800.
I haven't used my 600TC a ton since I got it, but I think it ended up being the right choice for me. We'll know more during my 2 weeks in the Tetons/Yellowstone in October.Interesting. My Z 600TC weighs in at 3.450gms which is 7lbs 8oz - no lens coat but original hood. According to your scales showing 8lbs 4.8oz, that is 3765gms. The lens coat and Zemlin Hood must add up to about 315gms!
Anyway, I am supremely glad I went with the 600TC instead of the Z400TC as I am almost always at 600mm and 840mm. The weight difference from my old 400 f2.8E FL VR was huge - the total for the 400 f2.8E FL VR + FTZ + original hood + 1.4x TCIII = 4.450kg!! 1kg more than the Z600TC! I certainly notice that difference! I have no issue wielding the Z600TC around, whereas the 400 f2.8E FL VR was getting a little difficult, especially above shoulder height.Regarding mass and the difference between the 400TC and 600TC, I think an argument can be made for replacing the 400TC with the 600TC if your primary interest is smaller subjects. In addition, if you spend most of your time pursuing large animals that are at a distance, the 600TC will close the gap while maximizing subject size in the frame.
On the other hand, there is an equal counter argument to using the 400TC. The lighter weight does allow one to hold the lens at eye level for longer times. At 5'9" and 150lb, my arms are what they...Show more →
I went with the 600 simply because I shoot mostly smaller birds and at distance. I was always using the 800PF and when I had the 180-600 or 600PF on the camera was generally after longer. I don't find it too heavy, but ask me again in 5 years time,
. There is a case for the 400TC for the larger birds and animals but for my use on what I shoot it would be at 560mm and 800mm 90% of the time. Weight was a consideration, but it is only 300gms. Bulk was also a consideration but only length as they are all about the same diameter - 400TC, 600TC and 800PF.
Lance B wrote
nmerc_photos wrote
lukemeup wrote
Getting used to the weight and handling. I use this setup 100% without tripod and I keep asking myself if I'd be able to handle 600TC the same way (I find myself at 560mm a lot here, but when I'm not - I'm blown away by the quality of 400 2.8)Like you - I found myself almost always at 560/784/800.
I haven't used my 600TC a ton since I got it, but I think it ended up being the right choice for me. We'll know more during my 2 weeks in the Tetons/Yellowstone in October.
Anyway, I am supremely glad I went with the 600TC instead of the Z400TC as I am almost always at 600mm and 840mm. The weight difference from my old 400 f2.8E FL VR was huge - the total for the 400 f2.8E FL VR + FTZ + original hood + 1.4x TCIII = 4.450kg!! 1kg more than the Z600TC! I certainly notice that difference!
I have no issue wielding the Z600TC around, whereas the 400 f2.8E FL VR was getting a little difficult, especially above shoulder height.On the other hand, there is an equal counter argument to using the 400TC. The lighter weight does allow one to hold the lens at eye level for longer times. At 5'9" and 150lb, my arms are what they...Show more →
I went with the 600 simply because I shoot mostly smaller birds and at distance. I was always using the 800PF and when I had the 180-600 or 600PF on the camera was generally after longer. I don't find it too heavy, but ask me again in 5 years time,
. There is a case for the 400TC for the larger birds and animals but for my use on what I shoot it would be at 560mm and 800mm 90% of the time. Weight was a consideration, but it is only 300gms. Bulk was also a consideration but only length as they are all about the same diameter - 400TC, 600TC and 800PF.Sep 12, 2024 at 04:50 PM
p.45 #4Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Random bird fact - "Garry oaks in British Columbia rely upon Steller's jays for acorn dispersal. The jays bury acorns singly in the ground to use as overwinter food, but may not re- cover all of the acorns they bury, thereby dispersing seeds to caching locations"
Steller's Jay
Sep 13, 2024 at 04:16 PM
p.45 #5Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Hard not to love this lens...
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 400mm f/3.2 1/2500s 900 ISO +1.3 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 400mm f/3.2 1/2500s 720 ISO +1.0 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 400mm f/6.3 1/2500s 450 ISO -0.3 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 400mm f/6.3 1/2500s 450 ISO -0.3 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 560mm f/4.5 1/2500s 6400 ISO +1.0 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 560mm f/4.5 1/2500s 5600 ISO +1.0 EV
Sep 14, 2024 at 04:54 PM
p.45 #6Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Choosing the right lens depends primarily on your subjects and personal photographic preferences. There’s no right or wrong, or better or worse—only the best tool for your individual needs.
All the following photos were captured with a 400mm focal length.
All the following photos were captured with a 400mm focal length.
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Sep 15, 2024 at 04:29 AM
p.45 #7Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
A bit of bird photography from last week...
regards,
bruce
regards,
bruce
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 560mm f/4.5 1/2500s 1800 ISO +1.3 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 560mm f/4.0 1/2500s 800 ISO 0.0 EV
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 400mm f/4.0 1/2500s 4000 ISO +0.3 EV
Sep 16, 2024 at 07:14 PM
p.45 #8Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Couple of Lion portraits shot at 1120mm (stack of 1.4 internal and 2.0 external TCs)
F11, ISO 800, 1/640
Portrait of a male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
F11, ISO 900, 1/800
Portrait of a young male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
F11, ISO 800, 1/640
Portrait of a male lion by Ganesh B, on FlickrF11, ISO 900, 1/800
Portrait of a young male lion by Ganesh B, on FlickrSep 17, 2024 at 07:40 AM
p.45 #9Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
gannis wrote:
Couple of Lion portraits shot at 1120mm (stack of 1.4 internal and 2.0 external TCs)
F11, ISO 800, 1/640
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934632_4e2d40b496_k.jpgPortrait of a male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
F11, ISO 900, 1/800
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934627_75dc3d7da0_k.jpgPortrait of a young male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Lovely portraits... amazing how the image quality holds up w both the 2x and internal 1.4x.
bruce
Couple of Lion portraits shot at 1120mm (stack of 1.4 internal and 2.0 external TCs)
F11, ISO 800, 1/640
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934632_4e2d40b496_k.jpgPortrait of a male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
F11, ISO 900, 1/800
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934627_75dc3d7da0_k.jpgPortrait of a young male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Lovely portraits... amazing how the image quality holds up w both the 2x and internal 1.4x.
bruce
Sep 17, 2024 at 07:44 AM
p.45 #10Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Thanks Bruce!
With very good light, stopped down at F11, the optical performance is very good. The biggest challenge is to avoid atmospheric haze.
OwlsEyes wrote:
F11, ISO 800, 1/640
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934632_4e2d40b496_k.jpgPortrait of a male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
F11, ISO 900, 1/800
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934627_75dc3d7da0_k.jpgPortrait of a young male lion by Ganesh B, on FlickrLovely portraits... amazing how the image quality holds up w both the 2x and internal 1.4x.
bruce
With very good light, stopped down at F11, the optical performance is very good. The biggest challenge is to avoid atmospheric haze.
OwlsEyes wrote:
gannis wrote
Couple of Lion portraits shot at 1120mm (stack of 1.4 internal and 2.0 external TCs)F11, ISO 800, 1/640
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934632_4e2d40b496_k.jpgPortrait of a male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
F11, ISO 900, 1/800
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54000934627_75dc3d7da0_k.jpgPortrait of a young male lion by Ganesh B, on Flickr
bruce
Sep 17, 2024 at 07:48 AM
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p.45 #11Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
400 TC also works in insect photography.
Small white
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NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S Z TC-1.4x lens 560mm f/4.0 1/6400s 280 ISO -1.0 EV
Sep 17, 2024 at 01:50 PM
p.45 #12Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Some from recent days
Anna's Hummingbird
Private Property
Wood Duck
Merlin
Long-billed Dowitcher
Wood Duck
Sep 20, 2024 at 12:51 PM
p.45 #13Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Wood pigeon
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NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S Z TC-1.4x lens 560mm f/5.6 1/3200s 1800 ISO +0.7 EV
Sep 20, 2024 at 01:02 PM
p.45 #15Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
gannis wrote:
Cross posted in Z9 images thread
Z9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Love the last one.
Cross posted in Z9 images thread
Z9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Love the last one.
Sep 21, 2024 at 11:21 AM
p.45 #16Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Thanks a lot!
tabishshaikh wrote:
Z9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on FlickrLove the last one.
tabishshaikh wrote:
gannis wrote
Cross posted in Z9 images threadZ9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Sep 21, 2024 at 12:17 PM
p.45 #17Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
A few more bobcats...
regards,
bruce
When she walked by, I shot in silent mode... FX all the way!
On the hunt on a sunny afternoon.
regards,
bruce
When she walked by, I shot in silent mode... FX all the way!
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 560mm f/5.6 1/2500s 2000 ISO +0.7 EV
On the hunt on a sunny afternoon.
NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S lens 400mm f/5.6 1/2500s 500 ISO -0.3 EV
Sep 21, 2024 at 12:17 PM
p.45 #18Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
gannis wrote:
Cross posted in Z9 images thread
Z9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Wowza .. what kind of Eagle is that ? He looks very large.
Cross posted in Z9 images thread
Z9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Wowza .. what kind of Eagle is that ? He looks very large.
Sep 22, 2024 at 09:00 AM
p.45 #19Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Thanks! That’s an African Fish Eagle.
JustShootMe wrote:
Z9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on FlickrWowza .. what kind of Eagle is that ? He looks very large.
JustShootMe wrote:
gannis wrote
Cross posted in Z9 images threadZ9, 400mm f2.8 S TC
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215751_619691529f_k.jpgGB9_8214 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO1100, 1/4000 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009542814_750b75ea6c_k.jpgGB9_8219_2-NEF by Ganesh B, on Flickr
ISO3200, 1/3200 sec, f2.8, +0.7EV
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54009215761_6082b5e5a6_k.jpgGB9_8545 by Ganesh B, on Flickr
Sep 22, 2024 at 11:17 AM
p.45 #20Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions
Common chiffchaff catches an insect.
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NIKON Z 9 NIKKOR Z 400mm f/2.8 TC VR S Z TC-1.4x lens 560mm f/4.0 1/4000s 5600 ISO -0.3 EV
Sep 23, 2024 at 05:40 AM