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Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.7 #1 · p.7 #1 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


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They are here!!


So this is weird. I was in the Leica Store in Sydney a few days ago and, looking at the Noctilux 50/0.95 in the display case, it didnít seem all that big to me. Does that mean the Nokton 50/1 is actually small?



Feb 07, 2022 at 05:17 PM
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p.7 #2 · p.7 #2 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Edward Teller wrote:
Using a different approach, this series is done from .DNG files made with the Noctilux 50/1 code on in camera for both the 50/1 lenses, and the 50 Summilux code on for that one, opened in LR, Auto Tone in LR, and sharpened in PS. The Auto Tone made them too yellow, which I should have corrected, but was halfway through them before I decided that.


When contrast and saturation are adjusted, the bokeh rendering is affected. I see the value in what you have posted since most of us adjust images on an individual basis, but it may be more helpful to see them with no adjustments or with identical adjustments.



Feb 07, 2022 at 05:20 PM
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p.7 #3 · p.7 #3 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


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They are here!!


Let the games begin

My SL2-S arrived today, so I'm still considering which 50 to get for wide-open bokeh. I currently have only the 28 Lux, CV 50 APO, and CV 75 1.5. Still leaning toward re-acquiring the 50 Lux BC, but you never know if an f/1 is calling instead



Feb 07, 2022 at 05:25 PM
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p.7 #4 · p.7 #4 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Let's compare their field curvature shape at 4m distance.

Wide open for all lenses.





Outwards

  LEICA M10-R    Voigtlander Nokton-M 1:1/50 lens    50mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Wavy-outwards

  LEICA M10-R    Noctilux-M 1:1/50 lens    50mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  







Wavy

  LEICA M10-R    Noctilux-M 1:0.95/50 ASPH. lens    50mm    f/4.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Feb 07, 2022 at 05:28 PM
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p.7 #5 · p.7 #5 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


I've just tested them at infinity (resolution and contrast) and the difference is shocking!


Feb 07, 2022 at 05:36 PM
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Very curious about midfield rendering between them!


Feb 07, 2022 at 05:38 PM
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genji wrote:
So this is weird. I was in the Leica Store in Sydney a few days ago and, looking at the Noctilux 50/0.95 in the display case, it didnít seem all that big to me. Does that mean the Nokton 50/1 is actually small?


It's not only shorter in length, the Voigtlander 50/1 Nokton is lighter too.

Here are their measurements without the hood. (keep in mind the 0.95 has a built-in hood)

Leica Noctilux-M 1:0.95/50 ASPH. lens: 768 grams
Leica Noctilux-M 1:1/50 lens: 600 grams
Voigtlander Nokton-M 1:1/50 lens: 482 grams

As a curiosity, the rear element rotates when focusing for both Leica Noctilux lenses just like with the 50/1.4 Lux.
The Voigtlander 50/1's rear element does not rotate. Also, the rear element for both Leica lenses is noticeably larger than the Voigt's.



Feb 07, 2022 at 05:42 PM
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p.7 #8 · p.7 #8 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
Let's compare their field curvature shape at 4m distance.

Wide open for all lenses.


I expect the CV to trash the others as far as technical IQ lol. Curious to see the rendering at 1- 4 meters WO.

Am I understanding these correctly that the DOF is ďthickerĒ on the 50/1 Noct than the others (aside from the distortion profile)?



Feb 07, 2022 at 06:13 PM
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p.7 #9 · p.7 #9 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, I have both lenses. I will test them out. The difference in size/weight between M10-R + CV 50/1.2 vs A7R4 + GM 50/1.2 is comical tough.
David vs Goliath but this time it won't end up well for David.


Really interesting to see the Noctilux tests. The Voigtlander compares well, actually, though I prefer the f1.2 Nokton in the other side-by-sides.

Makes me even more curious to see how the 50GM fares in rendering. That lens has a lot of praise on a technical level, but I haven't seen that much comparison here when it comes to rendering (or maybe I missed it).



Feb 07, 2022 at 06:46 PM
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highdesertmesa wrote:
Let the games begin

My SL2-S arrived today, so I'm still considering which 50 to get for wide-open bokeh. I currently have only the 28 Lux, CV 50 APO, and CV 75 1.5. Still leaning toward re-acquiring the 50 Lux BC, but you never know if an f/1 is calling instead


If I was only allowed a single lens for a digital Leica M, Iíd choose the 50 Lux BC without a momentís hesitation. (For a film M, it would be the Dual Range Summicron 50.)



Feb 07, 2022 at 06:49 PM
 


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p.7 #11 · p.7 #11 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


grahamgibson wrote:
Really interesting to see the Noctilux tests. The Voigtlander compares well, actually, though I prefer the f1.2 Nokton in the other side-by-sides.

Makes me even more curious to see how the 50GM fares in rendering. That lens has a lot of praise on a technical level, but I haven't seen that much comparison here when it comes to rendering (or maybe I missed it).


I find the 50/1.2 GM's rendering pleasant. Very similar to the 50/1.2 Nokton's. Except at close distance where the Nokton has noticeable SA.



Feb 07, 2022 at 07:13 PM
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p.7 #12 · p.7 #12 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review



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Infinity performance compared to Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F1 Lens











Here is the full image thumbnail showing the area demonstrated at 1:1 magnification.








  1. Distance: Infinity
  2. Camera: Leica M10-R
  3. Focus: Center - Best of three @ 12.4x magnification
  4. WB: Daylight
  5. Software: Lightroom with my default landscape sharpening. All other settings set to default
PS: Vignetting and distortion were NOT corrected. All in-camera corrections turned 'off'.

___________


Here are some 100% crops showing center, mid-field and extreme corner areas.

First a comparison showing the vignetting level with both lenses wide open:






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At 50mm
Center Resolution and Contrast: Voigtlander-M Nokton 50mm F1 lens vs Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F1 lens






f/1







F1.4







F2







F2.8







F4







F5.6







F8




Feb 07, 2022 at 07:25 PM
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p.7 #13 · p.7 #13 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


At 50mm
MID-FIELD Resolution and Contrast: Voigtlander-M Nokton 50mm F1 lens vs Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F1 lens






f/1







F1.4







F2







F2.8







F4







F5.6







F8




Feb 07, 2022 at 07:26 PM
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p.7 #14 · p.7 #14 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


At 50mm
EXTREME CORNER Resolution and Contrast: Voigtlander-M Nokton 50mm F1 lens vs Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F1 lens






f/1







F1.4







F2







F2.8







F4







F5.6







F8




Feb 07, 2022 at 07:26 PM
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p.7 #15 · p.7 #15 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review



Back to Quick Links

Infinity performance compared to Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F0.95 ASPH. Lens











Here is the full image thumbnail showing the area demonstrated at 1:1 magnification.








  1. Distance: Infinity
  2. Camera: Leica M10-R
  3. Focus: Center - Best of three @ 12.4x magnification
  4. WB: Daylight
  5. Software: Lightroom with my default landscape sharpening. All other settings set to default
PS: Vignetting and distortion were NOT corrected. All in-camera corrections turned 'off'.

___________


Here are some 100% crops showing center, mid-field and extreme corner areas.

First a comparison showing the vignetting level with both lenses wide open:










At 50mm
Center Resolution and Contrast: Voigtlander-M Nokton 50mm F1 lens vs Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F0.95 ASPH. lens






f/1







F1.4







F2







F2.8







F4







F5.6







F8




Feb 07, 2022 at 07:32 PM
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p.7 #16 · p.7 #16 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


At 50mm
MID-FIELD CORNER Resolution and Contrast: Voigtlander-M Nokton 50mm F1 lens vs Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F0.95 ASPH. lens






f/1







F1.4







F2







F2.8







F4







F5.6







F8




Feb 07, 2022 at 07:32 PM
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p.7 #17 · p.7 #17 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


At 50mm
EXTREME CORNER Resolution and Contrast: Voigtlander-M Nokton 50mm F1 lens vs Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F0.95 ASPH. lens






f/1







F1.4







F2







F2.8







F4







F5.6







F8




Feb 07, 2022 at 07:32 PM
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p.7 #18 · p.7 #18 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
At 50mm
EXTREME CORNER Resolution and Contrast: Voigtlander-M Nokton 50mm F1 lens vs Leica-M Noctilux 50mm F1 lens


Slight differences


Feb 07, 2022 at 07:36 PM
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p.7 #19 · p.7 #19 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


highdesertmesa wrote:
Slight differences


That's as fair as running 100m hurdles against a 45 year-older "spherical" grampa



Feb 07, 2022 at 08:42 PM
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p.7 #20 · p.7 #20 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1 Nokton Review


"Wow wow wee waa! Very nice!" (Borat voice)


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