I'm weighing trying this lens out vs. finding a used Voigtlander 50/1.2. I'm a longtime user of the Voigtlander 40/1.2, so that has me want to just stick with the same. But I've been loving using the Techart LM-EA9 AF adapter on my Sony, and Bastian reports the Mr. Ding lens has a wider tracking area with the adapter than the Voigtlanders.
I have been interested, and my son is happy with the older, cheaper Sony version, but to fork out $400 for a gimmick 50mm to have essentially sitting jobless next to my other 50mms is a bit over the top budget-wise.
markhout wrote:
I have been interested, and my son is happy with the older, cheaper Sony version, but to fork out $400 for a gimmick 50mm to have essentially sitting jobless next to my other 50mms is a bit over the top budget-wise.
Really wonder what is gimmick about it.
BastianK wrote:
Really wonder what is gimmick about it.
I think the "low" price sets some expectations to a level where potential buyers may be suspicious of its quality. Like cheap wine can't be good and all expensive wine must be good.
hmzimelka wrote:
I think the "low" price sets some expectations to a level where potential buyers may be suspicious of its quality. Like cheap wine can't be good and all expensive wine must be good.
Low price = crap quality = toy = gimmick
Interestingly just two days ago I made a blind test in the Phillipreeve Discord asking people which of two pictures of the same scene they prefer.
Result ended up being 6:1 in favour of the Mr. Ding lens. The other lens was the Leica 50mm 0.95.
This lens has a superb rendition and if you see 0.95 and Leica in the same sentence, you’ll be confident that a superb rendition will be for sure from these specs…
ps I am an 40 1.2 user on Leica and Sony and also a 50 APO owner.
This lens is not in the same league regarding the super fast typical rendition.
Absolutely not the cheapest for rendition and images coming out.
If I need a razor sharp result, the APO is a solution but... comparing them....
at f2 there is DISTANCE
BastianK wrote:
Interestingly just two days ago I made a blind test in the Phillipreeve Discord asking people which of two pictures of the same scene they prefer.
Result ended up being 6:1 in favour of the Mr. Ding lens. The other lens was the Leica 50mm 0.95.
BastianK wrote:
Interestingly just two days ago I made a blind test in the Phillipreeve Discord asking people which of two pictures of the same scene they prefer.
Result ended up being 6:1 in favour of the Mr. Ding lens. The other lens was the Leica 50mm 0.95.
Perfect! Yeah, it's ironic, how skewed expectations and interpretations can be in normal life and then in a blind test all goes out the window. I personally would really like this lens, given a good copy, but will remain a pipe dream considering my location.
This lens has a superb rendition and if you see 0.95 and Leica in the same sentence, you’ll be confident that a superb rendition will be for sure from these specs…
ps I am an 40 1.2 user on Leica and Sony and also a 50 APO owner.
This lens is not in the same league regarding the super fast typical rendition.
Absolutely not the cheapest for rendition and images coming out.
If I need a razor sharp result, the APO is a solution but... comparing them....
Personally, the Leica Noct 0.95 does nothing to tickle my interests. But the Mr Ding 50/1.1 looks very nice.
Is it just me or is the first image showing a slight swing to the focus plane... left is further than the right.
I was rather underwhelmed with the APO Summicron-M 50 ASPH I bought... I gave it right back and if anything made me appreciate my vanilla Cron 50mm V even more.
50 apo vs Noxlux at f2 (Leica M10R, focus on XC40 sign).
one is a lot wider than 50mm and the OF parts are quite amazing on Noxlux.
APO is cleaner all along the shot, with a perfect and smooth rendition,nice bokeh, but the Noxlux... is magic for pictures where the pop is important and the depth with a CREAMY bokeh is necessary.
They are still improving the design of this lens and I received a sample of the latest "MK 2.1" version (the silver one):
What has changed?
The lens comes with a hood now that can be mounted reversed for storage, the aperture ring rotates in the "correct" direction,
due to new coatings the light transmission seems to have been slightly improved (by 0.2 EV, so within the margin of measurement accuracy) as does the flare resistance.
I also think it is easier to calibrate the rangefinder coupling yourself now, but I didn't (have to) try that.
The manufacturer also claimed the sharpness in the ~ 1.5 m range has been improved a bit, but I didn't see any notable differences here.
PS: my own older (black) version of the lens was also part of my Super Fast 50mm M-mount comparison
together with the Leica 50mm 0.95, Zhong Yi 50mm 0.95, Voigtländer VM 50mm 1.0, MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 and Voigtländer VM 50mm 1.2: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/
I'm new in these parts. I'd like to try large aperture lens, so I'm interested in this 50/1.1 on my Sony A7CR. The alternative might be a TTArtisan 50mm F1.4, that seems to have nice bokeh too.
What do you think, What would you choose, and why?
You can check Bastian's excellent reviews above and comparison of 50mm esp Leica 50mm 1.4 asph review with TTartisan comparison which sold me that lens:
I have not compared them or used them much as I just got both. I got the latest Mr Ding M version. It's bigger lens and af with the Metabones adapter. However the focus ring is harder to turn in comparison to any other m mount lenses. The contrast is very low wide open at any area of the image. I got a used TTartisan as they are available. TTartisan is a little smaller and looks like Summilux-m replacement with more contrast. I like the Summilux images with contrast on the subject and nice fall off on the background. So it is your choice which you prefer.
Cadfael wrote:
Hi!
I'm new in these parts. I'd like to try large aperture lens, so I'm interested in this 50/1.1 on my Sony A7CR. The alternative might be a TTArtisan 50mm F1.4, that seems to have nice bokeh too.
What do you think, What would you choose, and why?
HelenaN wrote:
I just received mine yesterday (the newer version Leica Mount). Looking forward to try it.
How do one take off the hood? Just pull or rotate? Neither way works for me.
I have been careful trying, so I'm pretty sure it hasn't become deformed.
Rotate.
And try to grab it from all sides.