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SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

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p.14 #1 · p.14 #1 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

Main issue I have with this lens:
There is always a different/new 50mm lens to review, so I don't get to use it nearly as often as I would like.

Jul 19, 2023 at 12:01 PM

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p.14 #2 · p.14 #2 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

Looks like there's another 'premium' source for this lens in the original housing design:

https://artralab.com/products/artra-lab-50mm-f1-1-lunaelumen-m-camera-lens-lite-version

Jul 21, 2023 at 10:37 PM

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p.14 #3 · p.14 #3 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

rscheffler wrote:
Looks like there's another 'premium' source for this lens in the original housing design:

https://artralab.com/products/artra-lab-50mm-f1-1-lunaelumen-m-camera-lens-lite-version

For me the lens in your link looks like the old design version:

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-mr-ding-optics-50mm-1-1-noxlux-m/#Disclosure (new left)

Jul 22, 2023 at 07:48 AM

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p.14 #4 · p.14 #4 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

Still the best lens to use when I'd like to get a "Botticelli" look in my small house.

here using the a7r3 with Techart to get the focus on the eyes of my little star.

edited using Cobalt Elite Gold 200

ILCE-7RM3 DT 40mm F2.8 SAM lens 50mm f/2.0 1/125s 2000 ISO -0.7 EV

Aug 23, 2023 at 03:33 PM

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p.14 #5 · p.14 #5 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

Looks like they're finally shipping a new, updated version of this lens (silver for now). Anyone have one yet?

https://mrdingstudio.com/products/mr-ding-noxlux-dg-50-1-1-e58-for-leica-m-manual-lens/

I'm weighing trying this lens out vs. finding a used Voigtlander 50/1.2. I'm a longtime user of the Voigtlander 40/1.2, so that has me want to just stick with the same. But I've been loving using the Techart LM-EA9 AF adapter on my Sony, and Bastian reports the Mr. Ding lens has a wider tracking area with the adapter than the Voigtlanders.

Sep 07, 2023 at 12:24 PM

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p.14 #6 · p.14 #6 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

I have been interested, and my son is happy with the older, cheaper Sony version, but to fork out $400 for a gimmick 50mm to have essentially sitting jobless next to my other 50mms is a bit over the top budget-wise.

Sep 07, 2023 at 02:23 PM

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p.14 #7 · p.14 #7 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

markhout wrote:
I have been interested, and my son is happy with the older, cheaper Sony version, but to fork out $400 for a gimmick 50mm to have essentially sitting jobless next to my other 50mms is a bit over the top budget-wise.
Really wonder what is gimmick about it.

Oct 05, 2023 at 01:43 AM

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p.14 #8 · p.14 #8 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

BastianK wrote:
Really wonder what is gimmick about it.

I think the "low" price sets some expectations to a level where potential buyers may be suspicious of its quality. Like cheap wine can't be good and all expensive wine must be good.

Low price = crap quality = toy = gimmick

Oct 05, 2023 at 05:38 AM

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p.14 #9 · p.14 #9 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

hmzimelka wrote:
I think the "low" price sets some expectations to a level where potential buyers may be suspicious of its quality. Like cheap wine can't be good and all expensive wine must be good.

Low price = crap quality = toy = gimmick

Interestingly just two days ago I made a blind test in the Phillipreeve Discord asking people which of two pictures of the same scene they prefer.
Result ended up being 6:1 in favour of the Mr. Ding lens. The other lens was the Leica 50mm 0.95.

Oct 05, 2023 at 05:44 AM

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p.14 #10 · p.14 #10 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

Not surprised.

This lens has a superb rendition and if you see 0.95 and Leica in the same sentence, you’ll be confident that a superb rendition will be for sure from these specs…

ps I am an 40 1.2 user on Leica and Sony and also a 50 APO owner.
This lens is not in the same league regarding the super fast typical rendition.

Absolutely not the cheapest for rendition and images coming out.

If I need a razor sharp result, the APO is a solution but... comparing them....

at f2 there is DISTANCE

Oct 05, 2023 at 05:54 AM

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p.14 #11 · p.14 #11 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

BastianK wrote:
Interestingly just two days ago I made a blind test in the Phillipreeve Discord asking people which of two pictures of the same scene they prefer.
Result ended up being 6:1 in favour of the Mr. Ding lens. The other lens was the Leica 50mm 0.95.

Perfect! Yeah, it's ironic, how skewed expectations and interpretations can be in normal life and then in a blind test all goes out the window. I personally would really like this lens, given a good copy, but will remain a pipe dream considering my location.

Edited on Oct 05, 2023 at 08:16 AM · View previous versions

Oct 05, 2023 at 07:49 AM

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p.14 #12 · p.14 #12 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

Ulysseita wrote:
Not surprised.

This lens has a superb rendition and if you see 0.95 and Leica in the same sentence, you’ll be confident that a superb rendition will be for sure from these specs…

ps I am an 40 1.2 user on Leica and Sony and also a 50 APO owner.
This lens is not in the same league regarding the super fast typical rendition.

Absolutely not the cheapest for rendition and images coming out.

If I need a razor sharp result, the APO is a solution but... comparing them....

at f2 there is DISTANCE

https://i.imgur.com/urQzFqh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9BwXJVV.jpg

Personally, the Leica Noct 0.95 does nothing to tickle my interests. But the Mr Ding 50/1.1 looks very nice.
Is it just me or is the first image showing a slight swing to the focus plane... left is further than the right.

I was rather underwhelmed with the APO Summicron-M 50 ASPH I bought... I gave it right back and if anything made me appreciate my vanilla Cron 50mm V even more.

Oct 05, 2023 at 07:51 AM

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p.14 #13 · p.14 #13 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

I did another shot series.

50 apo vs Noxlux at f2 (Leica M10R, focus on XC40 sign).

one is a lot wider than 50mm and the OF parts are quite amazing on Noxlux.

APO is cleaner all along the shot, with a perfect and smooth rendition,nice bokeh, but the Noxlux... is magic for pictures where the pop is important and the depth with a CREAMY bokeh is necessary.

Oct 05, 2023 at 08:51 AM

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p.14 #14 · p.14 #14 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

They are still improving the design of this lens and I received a sample of the latest "MK 2.1" version (the silver one):

What has changed?
The lens comes with a hood now that can be mounted reversed for storage, the aperture ring rotates in the "correct" direction,
due to new coatings the light transmission seems to have been slightly improved (by 0.2 EV, so within the margin of measurement accuracy) as does the flare resistance.
I also think it is easier to calibrate the rangefinder coupling yourself now, but I didn't (have to) try that.

The manufacturer also claimed the sharpness in the ~ 1.5 m range has been improved a bit, but I didn't see any notable differences here.

I also updated my review accordingly:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-mr-ding-optics-50mm-1-1-noxlux-m/

PS: my own older (black) version of the lens was also part of my Super Fast 50mm M-mount comparison
together with the Leica 50mm 0.95, Zhong Yi 50mm 0.95, Voigtländer VM 50mm 1.0, MS-Optics 50mm 1.0 and Voigtländer VM 50mm 1.2:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/

Nov 10, 2023 at 04:18 AM

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p.14 #15 · p.14 #15 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review

Selling a copy of this on the B&S Board. Still keeping my newer copy.

Nov 19, 2023 at 07:34 PM

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