SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
p.15 #1SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
hanay78 wrote:
you have the VM f1 too
the constrast of that last one seems incredible to me
I look forward to your rpeferences
Thank you! Yes, looking forward to try it and to compare it with CV 50f1 VM. The CV is a great lens, but for daylight and nature photos the strong vignetting and field curvature bothers me, which is why I decided to try the Mr Ding one too.
I should probably have gotten CV 50/1.2 instead of both of these, but when I last year stumbled upon a used (well maintained) CV 50/f1 for almost half the regular price I couldn't resist it. Also I use 50mm for almost 90% of everything I shoot, so I feel it's OK to have several 50mm lenses.
you have the VM f1 too
the constrast of that last one seems incredible to me
I look forward to your rpeferences
Thank you! Yes, looking forward to try it and to compare it with CV 50f1 VM. The CV is a great lens, but for daylight and nature photos the strong vignetting and field curvature bothers me, which is why I decided to try the Mr Ding one too.
I should probably have gotten CV 50/1.2 instead of both of these, but when I last year stumbled upon a used (well maintained) CV 50/f1 for almost half the regular price I couldn't resist it. Also I use 50mm for almost 90% of everything I shoot, so I feel it's OK to have several 50mm lenses.
Dec 06, 2023 at 04:21 AM
p.15 #2SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
BastianK wrote:
How do one take off the hood? Just pull or rotate? Neither way works for me.
I have been careful trying, so I'm pretty sure it hasn't become deformed.Rotate.
And try to grab it from all sides.
Thank you. If holding the lens with the back end against me or downwards, in which direction should I turn the hood? Left or right?
HelenaN wrote
I just received mine yesterday (the newer version Leica Mount). Looking forward to try it.How do one take off the hood? Just pull or rotate? Neither way works for me.
I have been careful trying, so I'm pretty sure it hasn't become deformed.
And try to grab it from all sides.
Thank you. If holding the lens with the back end against me or downwards, in which direction should I turn the hood? Left or right?
Dec 06, 2023 at 04:24 AM
p.15 #3SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
HelenaN wrote:
How do one take off the hood? Just pull or rotate? Neither way works for me.
I have been careful trying, so I'm pretty sure it hasn't become deformed.Rotate.
And try to grab it from all sides.Thank you. If holding the lens with the back end against me or downwards, in which direction should I turn the hood? Left or right?
If I remember right it was a typical right-tighty, lefty-loosey kind of situation.
So just like you would screw on or off a filter.
BastianK wrote
HelenaN wrote
I just received mine yesterday (the newer version Leica Mount). Looking forward to try it.How do one take off the hood? Just pull or rotate? Neither way works for me.
I have been careful trying, so I'm pretty sure it hasn't become deformed.
And try to grab it from all sides.
If I remember right it was a typical right-tighty, lefty-loosey kind of situation.
So just like you would screw on or off a filter.
Dec 06, 2023 at 04:27 AM
p.15 #4SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
BastianK wrote:
If I remember right it was a typical right-tighty, lefty-loosey kind of situation.
So just like you would screw on or off a filter.
Yay, it worked! Thank you very much!
(I often use filters and a close-up lens, so it was important that I could take off the hood.)
If I remember right it was a typical right-tighty, lefty-loosey kind of situation.
So just like you would screw on or off a filter.
Yay, it worked! Thank you very much!
(I often use filters and a close-up lens, so it was important that I could take off the hood.)
Dec 06, 2023 at 04:36 AM
p.15 #5SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Slightly off topic, but does anyone have any info on upcoming Mr. Ding’s 35/1.8?
The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1
The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1
Dec 07, 2023 at 11:45 AM
p.15 #6SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Slightly off topic, but does anyone have any info on upcoming Mr. Ding’s 35/1.8?
The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1
I have seen a few pictures taken with it and at this point I say: don't have too high hopes.
It will be as small as the LLL 35mm 2.0 8E though.
Slightly off topic, but does anyone have any info on upcoming Mr. Ding’s 35/1.8?
The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1
I have seen a few pictures taken with it and at this point I say: don't have too high hopes.
It will be as small as the LLL 35mm 2.0 8E though.
Dec 07, 2023 at 12:14 PM
p.15 #7SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
BastianK wrote:
The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1I have seen a few pictures taken with it and at this point I say: don't have too high hopes.
It will be as small as the LLL 35mm 2.0 8E though.
I saw the size/prototype pics on photorumors, and it looked small. But 1.8 is a moderate aperture, and if it follows the signature of the 50/1.1 of having not well corrected LoCal, SA or off center sharpness WO, seems like maybe we could expect a decently smooth rendering…but probably asking too much.
At least the mythical Thypoc 35/1.4 will save us and allow us to finally “see”
nehemiahphoto wrote
Slightly off topic, but does anyone have any info on upcoming Mr. Ding’s 35/1.8?The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1
It will be as small as the LLL 35mm 2.0 8E though.
I saw the size/prototype pics on photorumors, and it looked small. But 1.8 is a moderate aperture, and if it follows the signature of the 50/1.1 of having not well corrected LoCal, SA or off center sharpness WO, seems like maybe we could expect a decently smooth rendering…but probably asking too much.
At least the mythical Thypoc 35/1.4 will save us and allow us to finally “see”
Dec 07, 2023 at 12:34 PM
p.15 #8SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
@ serhan_
Thanks for the info. I missed the article of Bastian on the Leica 50mm completely.
I'm still uncertain between Mr. Ding and TTArtisan; as I'm doing a lot of landscape, TTArtisan may be better suited ...
Thanks for the info. I missed the article of Bastian on the Leica 50mm completely.
I'm still uncertain between Mr. Ding and TTArtisan; as I'm doing a lot of landscape, TTArtisan may be better suited ...
Dec 09, 2023 at 08:48 AM
p.15 #9SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
You can check Jordan's review and other reviews for TTartisan:
https://admiringlight.com/blog/review-ttartisan-50mm-f-1-4-asph-rf-mount/2/
https://www.47-degree.com/focus-shift/ttartisan-50mm-14-review
https://photosbyjohnathan.wordpress.com/2022/03/12/ttartisan-50mm-f-1-4-asph-vs-leica-50mm-summilux-asph/
Also Flavio's 50mm comparison prefers the CV Nokton's over Chinese lenses for landscape:
https://www.47-degree.com/focus-shift/leica-m-50mm-lens-comparison-part-1
Cadfael wrote:
@ serhan_
Thanks for the info. I missed the article of Bastian on the Leica 50mm completely.
I'm still uncertain between Mr. Ding and TTArtisan; as I'm doing a lot of landscape, TTArtisan may be better suited ...
https://admiringlight.com/blog/review-ttartisan-50mm-f-1-4-asph-rf-mount/2/
https://www.47-degree.com/focus-shift/ttartisan-50mm-14-review
https://photosbyjohnathan.wordpress.com/2022/03/12/ttartisan-50mm-f-1-4-asph-vs-leica-50mm-summilux-asph/
Also Flavio's 50mm comparison prefers the CV Nokton's over Chinese lenses for landscape:
https://www.47-degree.com/focus-shift/leica-m-50mm-lens-comparison-part-1
Cadfael wrote:
@ serhan_
Thanks for the info. I missed the article of Bastian on the Leica 50mm completely.
I'm still uncertain between Mr. Ding and TTArtisan; as I'm doing a lot of landscape, TTArtisan may be better suited ...
Dec 09, 2023 at 01:24 PM
p.15 #10SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Slightly off topic, but does anyone have any info on upcoming Mr. Ding’s 35/1.8?
The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1
Very excited for it, hope it matches the look of the 50mm out of focus rendering.
Slightly off topic, but does anyone have any info on upcoming Mr. Ding’s 35/1.8?
The main attraction to me on that would be good bokeh on a compact RF 35…and who knows. Maybe it would play nice on the a7 + M + film M like the 50/1.1
Very excited for it, hope it matches the look of the 50mm out of focus rendering.
Dec 09, 2023 at 08:08 PM
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p.15 #11SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
My first time using this lens. Was out comparing it with CV 50f/1.
A7RII and Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1
A7RII and Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1
Dec 11, 2023 at 11:02 AM
p.15 #12SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
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Morocco. Nikon Z Mount, ISO 80, f/2, 1/320s.
Dec 16, 2023 at 07:18 AM
p.15 #13SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
And ? What are your conclussions ? which one do you like best ?
HelenaN wrote:
My first time using this lens. Was out comparing it with CV 50f/1.
A7RII and Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_003_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_004_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_006_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_008_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_001_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_002_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_010_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_007_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
HelenaN wrote:
My first time using this lens. Was out comparing it with CV 50f/1.
A7RII and Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_003_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_004_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_006_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_008_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_001_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_002_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_010_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/20231206_007_a7ll-mdr50b.jpg
Dec 16, 2023 at 08:56 AM
p.15 #14SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Thank you. For this kind of subjects I much prefer this lens.
For night shots I prefer CV 50/1.
Here is some comparisons. All taken wide open.
The first ones are taken with CV 50/1 and the second ones with Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1.
For night shots I prefer CV 50/1.
Here is some comparisons. All taken wide open.
The first ones are taken with CV 50/1 and the second ones with Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1.
Dec 16, 2023 at 09:54 AM
p.15 #15SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
The vigneting is very intense, but also in the f1.1 is very significant. I like the contrast of the vm. The colors of both are very much appart, one bluish, the other yellow. Resolution difference is also very significant. Thank you very much for the comparisons. It the lieu close to your place ?
HelenaN wrote:
Thank you. For this kind of subjects I much prefer this lens.
For night shots I prefer CV 50/1.
Here is some comparisons. All taken wide open.
The first ones are taken with CV 50/1 and the second ones with Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1.
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/10_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/10_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/11_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/11_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/13_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/13_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/18_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/18_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/25_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/25_MD50_f11.jpg
HelenaN wrote:
Thank you. For this kind of subjects I much prefer this lens.
For night shots I prefer CV 50/1.
Here is some comparisons. All taken wide open.
The first ones are taken with CV 50/1 and the second ones with Mr.Ding Noxlux DG 50/1.1.
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/10_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/10_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/11_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/11_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/13_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/13_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/18_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/18_MD50_f11.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/25_CV50f1_f1.jpg
https://helenasphotography.com/keep/2023/25_MD50_f11.jpg
Dec 16, 2023 at 12:07 PM
p.15 #16SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
hanay78 wrote:
The vigneting is very intense, but also in the f1.1 is very significant. I like the contrast of the vm. The colors of both are very much appart, one bluish, the other yellow. Resolution difference is also very significant. Thank you very much for the comparisons. It the lieu close to your place ?
It's about a ten minutes walk from home. Wonderful area with beautiful nature, mountains, valleys, little lakes, swamps etc.. Also, some wild animals like moose, foxes, hares and lots of birds.
Yes, both lenses have vignetting, but the CV 50 f/1 is worse and its strong field curvature makes the background less smooth.
Have you seen the great 50mm test made here?:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/
Both of these lenses are included.
The vigneting is very intense, but also in the f1.1 is very significant. I like the contrast of the vm. The colors of both are very much appart, one bluish, the other yellow. Resolution difference is also very significant. Thank you very much for the comparisons. It the lieu close to your place ?
It's about a ten minutes walk from home. Wonderful area with beautiful nature, mountains, valleys, little lakes, swamps etc.. Also, some wild animals like moose, foxes, hares and lots of birds.
Yes, both lenses have vignetting, but the CV 50 f/1 is worse and its strong field curvature makes the background less smooth.
Have you seen the great 50mm test made here?:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/
Both of these lenses are included.
Dec 16, 2023 at 12:18 PM
p.15 #17SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
HelenaN wrote:
It's about a ten minutes walk from home. Wonderful area with beautiful nature, mountains, valleys, little lakes, swamps etc.. Also, some wild animals like moose, foxes, hares and lots of birds.
Yes, both lenses have vignetting, but the CV 50 f/1 is worse and its strong field curvature makes the background less smooth.
Have you seen the great 50mm test made here?:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/
Both of these lenses are included.
Excellent overview by Bastian and the conclusion of it all was favoring the CV 1,2/50 as the overall most useful fast 50 of the lot. As far as the 1/50 VM, it's got its quirks and has to be a bear to focus accurately but as mentioned above, the contrast appears greater as well as resolution and the colors seem more true with the VM. Vignetting? Who cares when it can be defeated in post. Kind of adds character, to be honest. The VM's better resolution, higher contrast and vignetting results, to my eye, in a more impactful image.
hanay78 wrote
The vigneting is very intense, but also in the f1.1 is very significant. I like the contrast of the vm. The colors of both are very much appart, one bluish, the other yellow. Resolution difference is also very significant. Thank you very much for the comparisons. It the lieu close to your place ?Yes, both lenses have vignetting, but the CV 50 f/1 is worse and its strong field curvature makes the background less smooth.
Have you seen the great 50mm test made here?:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/
Both of these lenses are included.
Excellent overview by Bastian and the conclusion of it all was favoring the CV 1,2/50 as the overall most useful fast 50 of the lot. As far as the 1/50 VM, it's got its quirks and has to be a bear to focus accurately but as mentioned above, the contrast appears greater as well as resolution and the colors seem more true with the VM. Vignetting? Who cares when it can be defeated in post. Kind of adds character, to be honest. The VM's better resolution, higher contrast and vignetting results, to my eye, in a more impactful image.
Dec 16, 2023 at 12:36 PM
p.15 #18SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
I have the CV 50/1 and just got this Noxlux.. I have to say its lighter and although not as contrasty it's really well balanced on a M body..
Im off to HK this weekend and will shoot exclusively with this new lens on film and digital M.. I'll be keen to see how it handles an all day and night photowalk. For ref I often apply RNI filters to my digital shots- I'll send over some shots with this lens in a few weeks.. although Im sure all that has been said with this lens has already been said- its a killer price for a small all-purpose lens- good times!
Im off to HK this weekend and will shoot exclusively with this new lens on film and digital M.. I'll be keen to see how it handles an all day and night photowalk. For ref I often apply RNI filters to my digital shots- I'll send over some shots with this lens in a few weeks.. although Im sure all that has been said with this lens has already been said- its a killer price for a small all-purpose lens- good times!
Jan 02, 2024 at 11:38 PM
p.15 #19SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
The Christmas week I was shooting a lot with a 50 for the first time in many time. I usually do not feel so tempted by this focal
length. I had with me a Summicron 50 IV. Since the weather was mostly without sun, it did not disturb me so much to use it. Actually I enjoyed it a lot. I was mostly with my tripod. So that I would have even had used an slower lens. After seen again your photographs, I really understood more deeply your complain about the vignetting. In all compact fast lenses seems to be very intense. I am not into fast lenses, so that I was surprised it is so intense. I do not know what software do you utilize, but with the slow Vogitlander LTM 15mm I utilize, which has plenty of vignetting, the flat field conversion of the rawtherapee software is very useful, and ready with a single click. This software is free, so that in case you may feel tempted you may give it a try.
HelenaN wrote:
It's about a ten minutes walk from home. Wonderful area with beautiful nature, mountains, valleys, little lakes, swamps etc.. Also, some wild animals like moose, foxes, hares and lots of birds.
Yes, both lenses have vignetting, but the CV 50 f/1 is worse and its strong field curvature makes the background less smooth.
Have you seen the great 50mm test made here?:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/
Both of these lenses are included.
length. I had with me a Summicron 50 IV. Since the weather was mostly without sun, it did not disturb me so much to use it. Actually I enjoyed it a lot. I was mostly with my tripod. So that I would have even had used an slower lens. After seen again your photographs, I really understood more deeply your complain about the vignetting. In all compact fast lenses seems to be very intense. I am not into fast lenses, so that I was surprised it is so intense. I do not know what software do you utilize, but with the slow Vogitlander LTM 15mm I utilize, which has plenty of vignetting, the flat field conversion of the rawtherapee software is very useful, and ready with a single click. This software is free, so that in case you may feel tempted you may give it a try.
HelenaN wrote:
hanay78 wrote
The vigneting is very intense, but also in the f1.1 is very significant. I like the contrast of the vm. The colors of both are very much appart, one bluish, the other yellow. Resolution difference is also very significant. Thank you very much for the comparisons. It the lieu close to your place ?Yes, both lenses have vignetting, but the CV 50 f/1 is worse and its strong field curvature makes the background less smooth.
Have you seen the great 50mm test made here?:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/comparison-super-fast-50mm-m-mount-lenses/
Both of these lenses are included.
Jan 03, 2024 at 07:29 AM
p.15 #20SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Munro303 wrote:
I have the CV 50/1 and just got this Noxlux.. I have to say its lighter and although not as contrasty it's really well balanced on a M body..
Im off to HK this weekend and will shoot exclusively with this new lens on film and digital M.. I'll be keen to see how it handles an all day and night photowalk. For ref I often apply RNI filters to my digital shots- I'll send over some shots with this lens in a few weeks.. although Im sure all that has been said with this lens has already been said-...Show more →
Post your film shots in the film images thread!
I have the CV 50/1 and just got this Noxlux.. I have to say its lighter and although not as contrasty it's really well balanced on a M body..
Im off to HK this weekend and will shoot exclusively with this new lens on film and digital M.. I'll be keen to see how it handles an all day and night photowalk. For ref I often apply RNI filters to my digital shots- I'll send over some shots with this lens in a few weeks.. although Im sure all that has been said with this lens has already been said-...Show more →
Post your film shots in the film images thread!
Jan 03, 2024 at 09:59 AM