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SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian

  
 
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p.12 #1 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


I quite liked the idea of picking one of these up to play with (Sony version) but here in the UK, the only option seems to be eBay sellers with a claimed delivery date of Dec 28 - Feb 7 (it's not even November yet!)

Long shot, but anyone know of somewhere in the UK these can be found...?



Oct 29, 2022 at 04:24 AM
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p.12 #2 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


jmbillings wrote:
Dec 28 - Feb 7 (it's not even November yet!)


The delivery from China can take anywhere from a few days to two months, ebay's estimate means absolutely nothing.



Nov 06, 2022 at 04:07 PM
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p.12 #3 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


On the reverse side, I returned my faulty Syoptic lens to China in October and it is still (12/24) marked as stuck in China customs... Unlucky...


Dec 24, 2022 at 06:28 AM
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p.12 #4 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Always love the separation from this lens.











Edited on Feb 21, 2023 at 09:16 PM · View previous versions



Feb 21, 2023 at 11:37 AM
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p.12 #5 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


I really like the bokeh I’m seeing out of this lens. It looks really clean due to the lack of aspherical elements and low CA levels. I currently own the TTArtisan and it can be quite hit or miss. The strong vignetting, sharp CA and overall softness makes me default to usually using it at around F1.1 anyway so I may as well start considering this as an alternative.

Has anyone managed to compare this lens versus the Nokton F1 by any chance?



Feb 21, 2023 at 07:06 PM
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p.12 #6 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


I just stumbled across video featuring a new "Artra Lab 50mm 1.1" but as far as I can tell, it's exactly the same lens, just badged a little differently. *edit - for some reason the link inserting isn't working right, so you will have to copy + paste:




Mar 06, 2023 at 01:43 PM
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p.12 #7 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


jmbillings wrote:
I just stumbled across video featuring a new "Artra Lab 50mm 1.1" but as far as I can tell, it's exactly the same lens, just badged a little differently. *edit - for some reason the link inserting isn't working right, so you will have to copy + paste:



That video music is rockin'!



Mar 06, 2023 at 03:38 PM
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p.12 #8 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Hi !

I'm lost with this lens "design" sold under different batches and names.

Official Ebay Syoptic sell it now as "1.2" ... did they changed anything ?
https://www.ebay.fr/usr/syoptic

Artra Lab is REALLY the same lens ?
Or they changed internals, settings rings ... ?

https://artralab.com/products/artra-lab-50mm-f1-1-lunaelumen-e

They are the same price ... so witch one to buy ?
PS : anyone tested it against Mitakon 50mm 0.95 ?
Seems Mitakon get a more "nervous" bokeh ... so it is less effective at separation



Apr 12, 2023 at 03:42 AM
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p.12 #9 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Pipotron3000 wrote:
Hi !

I'm lost with this lens "design" sold under different batches and names.

Official Ebay Syoptic sell it now as "1.2" ... did they changed anything ?
https://www.ebay.fr/usr/syoptic

Artra Lab is REALLY the same lens ?
Or they changed internals, settings rings ... ?

https://artralab.com/products/artra-lab-50mm-f1-1-lunaelumen-e

They are the same price ... so witch one to buy ?
PS : anyone tested it against Mitakon 50mm 0.95 ?
Seems Mitakon get a more "nervous" bokeh ... so it is less effective at separation


I think they're the same and it's a typo- if you click through on the ebay link, it says 1.1 in some places and 1.2 in others. The basics of the formula are the same in both (8 elements in 6 groups, 11 aperture blades) - the design looks almost identical in the photos.

Interestingly however, Artralab quote a MFD of 0.7m, and Syoptic 0.35m 🤔 - possibly another typo?)

There's also the "Mr Ding" version which I think only comes in M mount and differs a little more.

Philip Reeve reviewed the Mikaton although doesn't mention the Syoptic in the comparison: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-zhong-yi-mitakon-50mm-0-95-iii/#Alternatives



Apr 12, 2023 at 07:41 AM
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p.12 #10 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Syoptic MFD is 0.7m in Leica M
BUT 0.35 in Sony E mount.

Probably because Leica M is the thickest mirrorless flange ever made

So may be artra lab didn't changed that spec on sony E.

About typo 1.1 : 1.2, probably one yes.
It is funny to see ppl selling something they don't even know



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p.12 #11 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Indeed - Syoptic don't even seem to have a website as far as I can tell! This "made somewhere anonymous and rebadged 10 times" Chinese stuff is always a bit of an adventure, but at least they are cheap enough to make experimenting "fun"...


Apr 12, 2023 at 10:17 AM
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p.12 #12 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Geoff CB wrote:
Always love the separation from this lens.


Beautiful pic of the baby! Really shows the strengths of the lens.



Apr 12, 2023 at 10:40 AM
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p.12 #13 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but there's also a V2 of the Mr. Ding/Syoptic NoxLux 50 f/1.1 coming out:
https://mrdingstudio.com/products/mr-ding-noxlux-dg-50-1-1-e58-for-leica-m-manual-lens?variant=42441937879221

It was also mentioned on Photo Rumors

I'm curious to see a review of it at some point. Evidently it's the same optical formula but the elements are now multicoated, with improvements (apparently) to the internal lens structure (I assume this means some tightening up in how the lens elements are kept in place, to reduce variance?), a threaded lens hood, and I think maybe a shorter physical length?



Apr 12, 2023 at 10:53 AM
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p.12 #14 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Already reviewed in V1 : nothing special

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-mr-ding-optics-50mm-1-1-noxlux-m/



Apr 12, 2023 at 10:55 AM
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p.12 #15 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


I'm interested in this new 50/1.1 to use with the LM-EA9 adapter on Sony, but it's been listed as "Presell" for months now. Not sure what the latest news is regarding availability.


Apr 13, 2023 at 01:03 PM
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p.12 #16 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


We are 4 months later ...
https://mrdingstudio.com/blogs/%E6%96%B0%E9%97%BB/new-mr-ding-noxlux-50-1-1-update-information-28th-nov-2022



Apr 13, 2023 at 02:04 PM
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p.12 #17 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


I've had my Syoptic 50mm f/1.1 Nikon Z mount version - serial number Z0001 - since April 2022 and I'm still very pleased with it and all for less than £150 including postage from China!


Apr 15, 2023 at 03:59 AM
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p.12 #18 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Cross-post on the Sony E mount photos thread:

I picked up a Syoptic 50mm f/1.1 (E-mount version) from the B&S last week. I had been keeping the Syoptic on my radar for about a year now after seeing BastainK's review. (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-syoptic-50mm-1-1/)

I've had fast 50's in the past, but none with the super smooth bokeh of the Syoptic. The Syoptic truly "obliterates" the background. I was planning to get the newer "Mr. Ding" version from eBay, but the (indecipherable) manufacturing delays and higher price put me off.

Then a copy turned up on the FM B&S last week. It was the E-Mount version, which focuses closer (.35m vs .70m for the M mount) so I had to give it a go!

These samples are PP'ed to taste, but not sharpened more than default LR settings. The E-Mount version is pretty sharp in the center. Not crazy sharp and there's some glow at close focusing distances, but it's as good or better than similar vintage glass. The star of the show is the bokeh. Amazing. So smooth! I could achieve similar bokeh (and sharper) results from my Rokinon 135/2, but 135 is hard to shoot in close Brooklyn quarters, and the magnification is not as good as the Syoptic.

Anyway. Super happy! A few examples:

Citibikes. Brooklyn Bridge Park.






Citibikes. Close to MFD focus point.






Magnolia. Columbia Heights, Brooklyn.






Eye Spy. Brooklyn Bridge Park, Brooklyn.






Fish cleaning station. Brooklyn Bridge Park, Pier 5.






Flowers. Pier 4, Brooklyn Bridge Park.







Apr 23, 2023 at 05:33 PM
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p.12 #19 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


Activatedfx wrote:
Cross-post on the Sony E mount photos thread:

I picked up a Syoptic 50mm f/1.1 (E-mount version) from the B&S last week. I had been keeping the Syoptic on my radar for about a year now after seeing BastainK's review. (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-syoptic-50mm-1-1/)

I've had fast 50's in the past, but none with the super smooth bokeh of the Syoptic. The Syoptic truly "obliterates" the background. I was planning to get the newer "Mr. Ding" version from eBay, but the (indecipherable) manufacturing delays and higher price put me off.

Then a copy turned up on the FM B&S last week. It was the E-Mount version,
...Show more
Some pictures look like EFCS might have been turned on, you may want to double check as you are often in the fast shutter speed range with a fast lens like this.



Apr 24, 2023 at 05:09 AM
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p.12 #20 · SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian


You are correct! I didn't even know that EFC was on... I had enabled it for a photo shoot on a film set, so I was trying to keep the shutter as quiet as possible. But I never turned it off! Arghh. Thanks for the heads up!


Apr 24, 2023 at 08:20 AM
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