SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
p.11 #1SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
I'm very excited about this lens! I was out of the game for a little while and now upon my return there are so many new affordable options for lenses. They managed to make a more budget friendly lens look good as well.
Sep 08, 2022 at 08:20 AM
p.11 #2SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Geoff CB wrote:
Received my copy and so far very impressed by the look from the lens. It's soft, has CA, but the rendering is fantastic. The separation at decent distances is incredible, and environment portraits might be my favorite use case for it.
Curious if anyone has used this on a GFX system camera yet?
Looks like there is also a lens swing to the right just like that of @Ulysseita
Received my copy and so far very impressed by the look from the lens. It's soft, has CA, but the rendering is fantastic. The separation at decent distances is incredible, and environment portraits might be my favorite use case for it.
Curious if anyone has used this on a GFX system camera yet?
Looks like there is also a lens swing to the right just like that of @Ulysseita
Sep 08, 2022 at 01:42 PM
p.11 #3SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Has anyone been able to answer the question of whether the non-M mount versions have the helicoid issue, and are also being re-designed?
So far all I see on the mrding site is the M mount lens. Guess I'll email them.
So far all I see on the mrding site is the M mount lens. Guess I'll email them.
Sep 08, 2022 at 02:21 PM
p.11 #4SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
I believe they were trying to be consistent with their MTF graphs
Ulysseita wrote:
I didi a quite scientific test, on M10r, LV, tripod.
full aperture and f2 at 3 meters.
New
https://i.imgur.com/jcFfP3d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rzdrdME.jpg
old
https://i.imgur.com/IOg5MVh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EDOTeiI.jpg
CV40 1.2
https://i.imgur.com/8omjZro.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pEwDCjr.jpg
Clouds are running over my head so it's quite hard to keep the same light between the shots.
I am quite confused about the behaviour of the new compared to the old, seems the focus plan is running back when closed on the aperture.
Ulysseita wrote:
I didi a quite scientific test, on M10r, LV, tripod.
full aperture and f2 at 3 meters.
New
https://i.imgur.com/jcFfP3d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rzdrdME.jpg
old
https://i.imgur.com/IOg5MVh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EDOTeiI.jpg
CV40 1.2
https://i.imgur.com/8omjZro.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pEwDCjr.jpg
Clouds are running over my head so it's quite hard to keep the same light between the shots.
I am quite confused about the behaviour of the new compared to the old, seems the focus plan is running back when closed on the aperture.
Sep 08, 2022 at 02:46 PM
p.11 #5SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
after many tests, some images.
on A7r3, Techart (lm7, still perfect) and 50 1.1 at 1.1 and 2.0
to my eyes?
FABULOUS the rendition.
The background is a mess in that image, trees, fence, highlights from metal, and coloured metal.
Everything is butter.
And when the focus is nailed (thanks Techart, since 2018 my beloved solution), with the performances equal between m10r and A7r3, this lens shine even at 1.1 (harder on M10r).
At 2.0?
sharp and great bokeh.
This is at 2/4 meters.
Edited using Cobalt Fuji Digital GFX 100 Nostalgic Negative. 1.1
Edited using Cobalt Fuji Digital GFX 100 Nostalgic Negative. 2.0
on A7r3, Techart (lm7, still perfect) and 50 1.1 at 1.1 and 2.0
to my eyes?
FABULOUS the rendition.
The background is a mess in that image, trees, fence, highlights from metal, and coloured metal.
Everything is butter.
And when the focus is nailed (thanks Techart, since 2018 my beloved solution), with the performances equal between m10r and A7r3, this lens shine even at 1.1 (harder on M10r).
At 2.0?
sharp and great bokeh.
This is at 2/4 meters.
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ILCE-7RM3 DT 40mm F2.8 SAM lens 50mm f/2.0 1/6400s 100 ISO -0.3 EV
Sep 08, 2022 at 04:42 PM
p.11 #6SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Ulysseita wrote:
I didi a quite scientific test, on M10r, LV, tripod.
full aperture and f2 at 3 meters.
Clouds are running over my head so it's quite hard to keep the same light between the shots.
I am quite confused about the behaviour of the new compared to the old, seems the focus plan is running back when closed on the aperture.
It's probably a touch of focus shift due to spherical aberration. Contrast seems to really improve at f/2 and it makes the plane of focus more defined, therefore easier to see exactly where it is. Wide open there's probably some leeway with focus placement due to softening caused by SA.
Your photos above at the playground: was the shutter mode either full mechanical or electronic? Just trying to understand if it's the lens's natural rendering, or if there could be EFCS bokeh distortion in the mix.
I didi a quite scientific test, on M10r, LV, tripod.
full aperture and f2 at 3 meters.
Clouds are running over my head so it's quite hard to keep the same light between the shots.
I am quite confused about the behaviour of the new compared to the old, seems the focus plan is running back when closed on the aperture.
It's probably a touch of focus shift due to spherical aberration. Contrast seems to really improve at f/2 and it makes the plane of focus more defined, therefore easier to see exactly where it is. Wide open there's probably some leeway with focus placement due to softening caused by SA.
Your photos above at the playground: was the shutter mode either full mechanical or electronic? Just trying to understand if it's the lens's natural rendering, or if there could be EFCS bokeh distortion in the mix.
Sep 08, 2022 at 05:12 PM
p.11 #9SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Some outdoor on the SL2. Love the rendering, but man that in/out focus line is razor thin.
LEICA SL2 Unknown Lens lens 50mm f/0.9 1/6400s 100 ISO -0.6 EV
LEICA SL2 Unknown Lens lens 50mm f/0.9 1/5000s 100 ISO -0.6 EV
Sep 09, 2022 at 10:42 AM
p.11 #10SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
From the new and improved Mr. Ding 50mm 1.1:
All at f/1.1 on Sony A7III via Techart LM-EA9.
This review sample is slightly better at infinity than my personal Syoptic copy, but not enough to actually care about.
All at f/1.1 on Sony A7III via Techart LM-EA9.
This review sample is slightly better at infinity than my personal Syoptic copy, but not enough to actually care about.
Sep 13, 2022 at 07:57 AM
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p.11 #11SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
I see the same great output coming from my copies.
Yes, on Sony with AF is a wonderful glass; without AF is quite hard to get a perfect focus at 1.1.
Yes, on Sony with AF is a wonderful glass; without AF is quite hard to get a perfect focus at 1.1.
Sep 13, 2022 at 11:48 AM
p.11 #12SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Around Liverpool, with A7r3, the Noxlux at 1.1 with TechArt LM EA7
(last at f4)
Edited with Classic Neg by Cobalt.
(last at f4)
Edited with Classic Neg by Cobalt.
Sep 17, 2022 at 11:22 AM
p.11 #13SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
I received my second replacement copy of the lens recently and it's much better than the first copy. The focus is pretty spot-on on my Leica M bodies from MFD to 5-mete but missed the infinity mark at open f-stop by just a bit. The replacement copy didn't have the tilt issue as the first copy. Overall, I am very happy with this lens. Here are few images taken this morning with M240 (all at f/1.1).
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Sep 18, 2022 at 11:43 AM
p.11 #14SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Few more taken at f/2-/2.8 (with M240).
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Sep 18, 2022 at 11:59 AM
p.11 #15SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
A portrait example of the wife.
LEICA SL2-S Unknown Lens lens 50mm f/1.0 1/640s 100 ISO 0.0 EV
Sep 18, 2022 at 06:55 PM
p.11 #16SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
I found this glass as an IDEAL partner of my Sony A7r3, AF with TAP, close focus, same optical qualities of the combo with M10R.
The last test was with my new girlfriend, using TAP and A7r3 to focus at 50cm.
Edited on Sep 29, 2022 at 11:04 AM · View previous versions
The last test was with my new girlfriend, using TAP and A7r3 to focus at 50cm.
Edited on Sep 29, 2022 at 11:04 AM · View previous versions
Sep 21, 2022 at 10:21 AM
p.11 #17SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Ulysseita wrote:
Around Liverpool, with A7r3, the Noxlux at 1.1 with TechArt LM EA7
(last at f4)
Edited with Classic Neg by Cobalt.
Nice shots!
Was this "Mark II"? Do you have both? How different are they?
Around Liverpool, with A7r3, the Noxlux at 1.1 with TechArt LM EA7
(last at f4)
Edited with Classic Neg by Cobalt.
Nice shots!
Was this "Mark II"? Do you have both? How different are they?
Sep 27, 2022 at 06:42 PM
p.11 #18SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
sander9t wrote:
(last at f4)
Edited with Classic Neg by Cobalt.Nice shots!
Was this "Mark II"? Do you have both? How different are they?
yes!
Is the markii; I have two copies of it for the centering problem.
Ulysseita wrote
Around Liverpool, with A7r3, the Noxlux at 1.1 with TechArt LM EA7(last at f4)
Edited with Classic Neg by Cobalt.
Was this "Mark II"? Do you have both? How different are they?
yes!
Is the markii; I have two copies of it for the centering problem.
Sep 29, 2022 at 03:55 AM
p.11 #19SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
This is my lens to go on Sony with techart
f2
f1.1
f1.1
almost fabulous bokeh.
f2
f1.1
f1.1
almost fabulous bokeh.
Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM
p.11 #20SYOPTIC 50MM 1.1 Review by Bastian
Announcement of a new version on the website with hood.
"We will release a new and improved version in December.The differences from the current version are:
In addition to the original black, silver will be added.
The new version is compatible with all Leica M system cameras. No additional adjustment is required between the film and the digital machine.
The new version will come with a shade
Note: The optical structure is the same as the old version and the new version, only the appearance is adjusted. The official price of the new version will be increased, and the original price of 399USD will remain unchanged during the pre-sale period."
"We will release a new and improved version in December.The differences from the current version are:
In addition to the original black, silver will be added.
The new version is compatible with all Leica M system cameras. No additional adjustment is required between the film and the digital machine.
The new version will come with a shade
Note: The optical structure is the same as the old version and the new version, only the appearance is adjusted. The official price of the new version will be increased, and the original price of 399USD will remain unchanged during the pre-sale period."
Oct 19, 2022 at 12:29 PM