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 p.1 #16 · Nikon: Please release a Z8. | |
unchecked wrote:
The Z7 and the R5 are the high megapixel models to go against the a7R in the same price bracket. Today they are 45/50, tomorrow 60, and 100 in the future. These 60/90/100 megapixel sensors will probably go to the future R5/Z7/a7R models.
What should ultimately transpire and separating their line up is whether they will have the stacked sensor or not. Which would mean:
Two non-stacked sensor bodies, one lower resolution, more speed, the other higher resolution, less speed; and
Two stacked sensor bodies, one lower resolution, more speed, the other higher resolution, less speed.
When you look at the competition, everyone else is following that pattern. Z6/a7/R6, Z7/a7R/R5, ?/a9ii/R3, Z9/a1/?
So where do we fit the "Z8"?
If we think the Z8 is the higher resolution stacked sensor body then we must be prepared to pay more than $5,500 for more resolution. Historically speaking slower but more resolution also means it's going to cost more. The D3x was more expensive than the D3(s), the D810/D850 is more expensive than the D750, the a7R is more expensive than the a7, the a1 is more expensive than the a9ii, the Z7 is more expensive than the Z6.
If the Z9 is the higher resolution of the stacked sensor bodies, then the Z8 should be lower resolution.
If the Z8 is high resolution and does not have the stacked sensor, then it's the Z7. Another possibility is they retire the number 7 and skip it, so we have the Z6, Z8 and Z9. Because if the Z8 is the high resolution non-stacked sensor body, there's no point in keeping the 7 around. ...Show more →
The other possibility is that rather than having a low resolution stacked sensor Z8, they use the same sensor as the Z9 in the Z8 but a generally less capable camera with a smaller buffer, less video capability, and a smaller non-gripped body. Such a camera would compete well with the A9 III, which is almost certain to go up in MP to something at least in the low 30 MPs and maybe more, and R3 especially if Nikon can sell it for $4,500. The Z9 already competes well with the A1 and the Z7 III if done well could compete well with the R5 And A7R V.
The rub, however, is that the R5 and A7r IV are moving in different directions, and I don't think the Z7 III can compete with both. The R5 emphasizes speed in a high resolution non-stacked sensor body and the A7r IV emphasize resolution, and I don't think the Sony A7r V is going to be very much like the Canon R5 II. The natural thing for Sony to do is make the A7r V be 80 or 90 MP and still with a non-stacked sensor. The natural thing for Canon to do is make the R5 with stacked sensor and keep the resolution about the same. Nikon is going to have to decide which camera they want to compete with when they make the Z7 III.
So the way I see it Nikon with the Z8 and Z7 III can be competitive for the Sony A7r V and Canon R5 II, and the Sony A9 III with two bodies. One with the same sensor as the Z9 but is a bit less capable body, that would compete well with the Canon R5 II and Sony A9 III, and one with really high MPs that competes with the Sony A7r V (and with a Canon with really high MP and a non-stacked sensor if Canon makes such a thing). I don't know, however, which one of the Nikon cameras will labelled the Z7 III and which one will be labelled the Z8. Those would seem the natural labels to use, however.
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I doubt they read this forum.