p.24 #1 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
gdsf2 wrote:
I put EC on my lens control ring. Works well.
In Geoff's use case location is not the issue. Are you saying that the Z9 will respond to EC changes in the setup that Geoff describes if it is mapped to the control ring?
p.24 #2 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
gdsf2 wrote:
I put EC on my lens control ring. Works well.
This is interesting.
Technically, the control ring does allow you adjust EC while RSF is invoked with Auto-ISO but it also changes the EC setting in the base config when you release the designated RSF button.
Not quite right, but an indication that it should be doable via standard means (body EC button + dial) with a fix from the mothership.
p.24 #3 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
1bwana1 wrote:
In Geoff's use case location is not the issue. Are you saying that the Z9 will respond to EC changes in the setup that Geoff describes if it is mapped to the control ring?
Nope. I am saying it allows for a very quick change of EC (much easier than button plus wheel) and is done with other hand which is doing nothing else. When using a new camera you have to make it work as is, not how some other camera works. I am just saying this might help.
p.24 #4 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
gdsf2 wrote:
Nope. I am saying it allows for a very quick change of EC (much easier than button plus wheel) and is done with other hand which is doing nothing else. When using a new camera you have to make it work as is, not how some other camera works. I am just saying this might help.
Understood.
When using zoom lenses I like to keep my left hand doing the zoom only when shooting fast action. I prefer using three scroll wheels on my right hand to adjust things like SS, A, ISO, EC..
I agree though that we need to adjust our techniques to fit the tools we have. The muscle memory will develop rather quickly.
p.24 #6 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
I’m loving the Control Ring as EC! When shooting birds with my 100-400, my zoom is generally fixed at 400mm. I pan around my shots and continuously adjust EC as the background changes from sky to water to foliage. It has already become second nature, and the improved EC accuracy I’m getting is manifesting as lower effective ISOs, as I have to adjust in PP less when I get caught out with a background change.
The feature is especially helpful if you shoot in M like I generally do. Front wheel is aperture. Back wheel is shutter speed. Control Ring is EC. ISO is auto.
I kinda don’t like shooting my 500PF anymore cause this feature is so handy for birds.
I find it useful for other subjects too. I just wish I could set it to FEC for macro photography.
p.24 #7 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
CKrueger wrote:
I’m loving the Control Ring as EC! When shooting birds with my 100-400, my zoom is generally fixed at 400mm. I pan around my shots and continuously adjust EC as the background changes from sky to water to foliage. It has already become second nature, and the improved EC accuracy I’m getting is manifesting as lower effective ISOs, as I have to adjust in PP less when I get caught out with a background change.
The feature is especially helpful if you shoot in M like I generally do. Front wheel is aperture. Back wheel is shutter speed. Control Ring is EC. ISO is auto.
I kinda don’t like shooting my 500PF anymore cause this feature is so handy for birds.
I find it useful for other subjects too. I just wish I could set it to FEC for macro photography....Show more →
Yep, this is how I shoot as well. Add the live histogram and dialing in correct exposure is really easy.
p.24 #8 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
Yeah I'm kind of at the point where I think the Z cameras should just say, "it's not a Sony" on the box. Because it's not. If you want to shoot your camera like a Sony then shoot your Sony. Sometimes you just have to unlearn some things and adapt to what you got in your hand. gdsf2 wrote:
Nope. I am saying it allows for a very quick change of EC (much easier than button plus wheel) and is done with other hand which is doing nothing else. When using a new camera you have to make it work as is, not how some other camera works. I am just saying this might help.
p.24 #10 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
gdsf2 wrote:
Nope. I am saying it allows for a very quick change of EC (much easier than button plus wheel) and is done with other hand which is doing nothing else. When using a new camera you have to make it work as is, not how some other camera works. I am just saying this might help.
Once my 400S arrives I'll give that a try....but my lone 500PF doesn't have a ring.
p.24 #11 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
this is me wrote:
I was hoping to see this thread full of delicious BIF from Abitrage when I woke up this morning. C’mon mang! You’re slacking!
I drained the battery to 35% in about 3.5 hrs of shooting but it was cloudy dark so the BIF I did get won't be that impressive considering most was ISO 3200-6400.
I haven't even checked how many images I shot and I'm going to go back out for another hour or two before "sunset".
I'm hoping for a bit better light tomorrow but still probably won't have full sun.
p.24 #12 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
I don't have a Z9 but on the D6 you can check or uncheck EC on the list of recalled shooting functions. If it is checked, the current EC is overridden to the value set in the list. If it is unchecked, the current EC setting is maintained and not recalled.
I find it hard to believe the Z9 would not have this option.
Now, if you are in manual mode, the metering scale does not normally indicate EC but rather it indicates how much under or over the current exposure is relative to the meter reading (which has possibly been altered by the EC). So the EC still affects the exposure but is only indicated directly when depressing the EC button (at which point there is both numerical and scale indicators of the EC value). In automatic exposure modes the scale indicates EC (or if the EC cannot be applied due to extreme settings, the offset from the metered exposure).
If you look at the shutter speed, aperture and ISO you can confirm the EC is affecting exposure also in manual mode with auto ISO. Unless of course the Z9 has a bug here (which would be curious since the D6 does not).
p.24 #13 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
For the love of god, someone needs to learn to edit down to the best 1-2 and not post wall sized snapshots on here, I could have fried an egg on my laptop after building the page before this one...
p.24 #14 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
Do you have anything of any value to add to this thread or are you just going to break my balls across two threads? Ai_Print wrote:
For the love of god, someone needs to learn to edit down to the best 1-2 and not post wall sized snapshots on here, I could have fried an egg on my laptop after building the page before this one...
p.24 #15 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
gdsf2 wrote:
Yep, this is how I shoot as well. Add the live histogram and dialing in correct exposure is really easy.
On the note of the live histogram, am I needing to dig in further to put it on the regular VF info / readout or it is just on the virtual horizon option now?
p.24 #16 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
Ai_Print wrote:
On the note of the live histogram, am I needing to dig in further to put it on the regular VF info / readout or it is just on the virtual horizon option now?
I have not found a way to only have the histogram and not the virtual horizon. But I have not searched.
p.24 #17 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
gdsf2 wrote:
I have not found a way to only have the histogram and not the virtual horizon. But I have not searched.
Found it, Custom Function D18 for VF and D17 for monitor. You right click the set button on each primary option to toggle the details (Basic Shooting Info), histogram is one of them.
p.24 #18 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
Go into a17 "Custom Monitor Shooting Display". When in "Custom Monitor Shooting Display", you have a selection of 5 display types. These 5 display types can be customised by going into each one with the right click of the thumb wheel.
p.24 #19 · Z9 and Z8 ! : A thread for Z9/Z8 images and *discussion*
500PF in dreary conditions....this is borderline lowest SS I'd ever attempt on a BKF IF....1/1600, f/5.6, ISO4000. 84 frames @ 20FPS.
Not all frames are critically sharp but the camera didn't lose focus to surroundings and tracked the KF so that was pretty good. I'm really hoping for some cloudy bright or sun tomorrow as it is so hard to test BIF in the conditions I had today.
