Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
p.18 #1Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
Nice images. This lens (in competent hands) seems to be a winner.
Lance B wrote:
I went to Taronga Zoo top try out the Z9 + Z 100-400 f4.5-5.6 VR S.
Lance B wrote:
I went to Taronga Zoo top try out the Z9 + Z 100-400 f4.5-5.6 VR S.
Jan 20, 2022 at 06:12 AM
p.18 #2Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
MikeInPa wrote:
No fun at all at Conowingo. Probably the worst I've ever been. No Eagle action at all while I was there. I decided to try for the Snowy Owl near Intercourse PA (yes folks there really is town called Intercourse in Pennsylvania, it's not far from Bird-in-Hand
) No sign of the Snowy. OK then I'll head home via Middle Creek and walk out to Willow Point. The trail was close due to a Goose Hunt. So I came home and took these.
They look beautiful!
JadedWriter wrote
Sounds like fun.MikeInPa wrote
I’m being adventurous tomorrow. I’m heading down South over the Mason-Dixon Line into Maryland to check out the Eagles at the Conowingo Dam. I’ll be sure to give the 100-400 a workout.) No sign of the Snowy. OK then I'll head home via Middle Creek and walk out to Willow Point. The trail was close due to a Goose Hunt. So I came home and took these.They look beautiful!
Jan 20, 2022 at 06:25 AM
p.18 #3Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
Some big birds in flight... the Z6II plays very well with the 100-400Z. After spending some time with this combination, I really want to shoot an "affordable" Z-type super telephoto lens. Unfortunately, the 400mm f/2.8Z is way beyond my budget.
cheers,
bruce
cheers,
bruce
Jan 20, 2022 at 07:55 PM
p.18 #4Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
Can you explain this, please, what exactly you meant?
"After spending some time with this combination, I really want to shoot an "affordable" Z-type super telephoto lens"
Does it mean, you don't like 100-400, or it's that good giving you an idea what 400s is all about?
Thanks
"After spending some time with this combination, I really want to shoot an "affordable" Z-type super telephoto lens"
Does it mean, you don't like 100-400, or it's that good giving you an idea what 400s is all about?
Thanks
Jan 20, 2022 at 08:27 PM
p.18 #5Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
^^ He wants to shoot at 2.8 or 4.0. And so do I.
Jan 20, 2022 at 09:54 PM
p.18 #6Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
cvrle59 wrote:
Can you explain this, please, what exactly you meant?
"After spending some time with this combination, I really want to shoot an "affordable" Z-type super telephoto lens"
Does it mean, you don't like 100-400, or it's that good giving you an idea what 400s is all about?
Thanks
dasams (the post below) accurately described my sentiment.
I did not have a lot of time to type my thoughts when I posted these images, but I'll clarify.
I shot these images while lying prone or sitting in the snow w/ the 100-400 & Z6II. On the tripod in front of me was my 500PF and Z7II. As you could see from the pics, there is a thick fog, which at this time of year coincides with subzero to single digit temperatures Fahrenheit (-20 to -16 C). In my opinion, when shot side by side, the 100-400 + Z6II outperformed the 500PF + Z7II for this type of photography. Two factors likely influenced my finding... the flexibility of a zoom to frame and reframe as the subject came closer, and the difference between "designed for Z-system" glass vs adapted glass. Because I don't have a Z9 and its redesigned AF system, I can clearly see the difference between adapted vs non-adapted glass. As such, I am wanting an f/2.8 or f/4 telephoto prime for my Z-bodies.
To be clear, the difference was so stark to me, that I purchased a used D500 to keep on my 500PF. At this point, I find that the loss of AF reliability with the Z7II + adapted glass is more than I am willing to tolerate.
bruce
Can you explain this, please, what exactly you meant?
"After spending some time with this combination, I really want to shoot an "affordable" Z-type super telephoto lens"
Does it mean, you don't like 100-400, or it's that good giving you an idea what 400s is all about?
Thanks
dasams (the post below) accurately described my sentiment.
I did not have a lot of time to type my thoughts when I posted these images, but I'll clarify.
I shot these images while lying prone or sitting in the snow w/ the 100-400 & Z6II. On the tripod in front of me was my 500PF and Z7II. As you could see from the pics, there is a thick fog, which at this time of year coincides with subzero to single digit temperatures Fahrenheit (-20 to -16 C). In my opinion, when shot side by side, the 100-400 + Z6II outperformed the 500PF + Z7II for this type of photography. Two factors likely influenced my finding... the flexibility of a zoom to frame and reframe as the subject came closer, and the difference between "designed for Z-system" glass vs adapted glass. Because I don't have a Z9 and its redesigned AF system, I can clearly see the difference between adapted vs non-adapted glass. As such, I am wanting an f/2.8 or f/4 telephoto prime for my Z-bodies.
To be clear, the difference was so stark to me, that I purchased a used D500 to keep on my 500PF. At this point, I find that the loss of AF reliability with the Z7II + adapted glass is more than I am willing to tolerate.
bruce
Jan 21, 2022 at 05:26 AM
p.18 #7Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
Colorado Red Fox
Z9 + Z 100-400mm
Was setting up the Z9 when I saw the fox out back and stepped outside before the dogs knew it was there.
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NIKON Z 9 * NIKKOR Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S lens * 400mm * f/5.6 * 1/800s * 450 ISO * +0.7 EV
Z9 + Z 100-400mm
Was setting up the Z9 when I saw the fox out back and stepped outside before the dogs knew it was there.
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NIKON Z 9 * NIKKOR Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S lens * 400mm * f/5.6 * 1/800s * 450 ISO * +0.7 EV
Jan 21, 2022 at 11:55 AM
p.18 #8Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
saaketham wrote:
Nice images. This lens (in competent hands) seems to be a winner.
Lance B wrote
I went to Taronga Zoo top try out the Z9 + Z 100-400 f4.5-5.6 VR S.Thank you very much, Saaketham! 🙂
Jan 21, 2022 at 02:45 PM
p.18 #9Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
Pardon if this isn’t an appropriate place for this post.
Has anyone used this lens with the z6II? How’s the speed of autofocus? Does it compare or exceed the 500mm PF on a d850/d500?
It’s going to be a minute before I get my hands on a Z9 but am very interested in this lens for now.
Thank you and also great stuff everybody.
Has anyone used this lens with the z6II? How’s the speed of autofocus? Does it compare or exceed the 500mm PF on a d850/d500?
It’s going to be a minute before I get my hands on a Z9 but am very interested in this lens for now.
Thank you and also great stuff everybody.
Jan 21, 2022 at 06:24 PM
p.18 #10Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
I met with a colleague today and he had this lens, I had my Z9 so I checked it out for a bit. I did a few images with it and think it might work to replace my 200-500 5.6 for long ski images.
I see reference to the 100-400 compared to the 500 PF but not the 200-500. Anyone have any opinions on this? I would love to shed a few pounds and have a lens more the size of my 70-200 2.8S when I am ripping around a ski area at 40 MPH doing that work.
I see reference to the 100-400 compared to the 500 PF but not the 200-500. Anyone have any opinions on this? I would love to shed a few pounds and have a lens more the size of my 70-200 2.8S when I am ripping around a ski area at 40 MPH doing that work.
Jan 22, 2022 at 12:36 AM
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p.18 #11Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
In response to both Lancemountain and Ai_Print...
First to Ai_Print... I hate to be that guy that begins with "I don't have a Z9, but..." I normally ignore a thread that begins with a "know it all" who doesn't, but it looks like that is me. Based on my month's long use of the 100-400, the only thing you will lose with the dispatch of the 200-500 is 100mm at the long end.
The 100-400 will get you 100mm on the short end, making it a perfect partner for a 24-70, 24-75, or 24-120mm lens. This w/ a Z9 could meet the needs of most professional and hobby photography. The AF motor/integration of the Z 100-400 w/ a Z-camera will ruin you for most F-mount lenses. The 100-400 responds to the Z-cameras like the F-mount cameras can't/don't. The follow focus and stickiness of the AF sensor is much better than w/ F-Glass. Finally, the 100-400 is built like Nikon's professional glass. It feels good in the hand and balances well. If you can accept the 100mm loss, the new lens is a great match for your camera.
To Lancemountain... I have discussed this in previous threads and have posted samples with more to come. As of last Sunday (a week ago), my bag consisted of the 24-70, 100-400, 500PF, Z7II and Z6II. I have a 70-200 f/2.8 w/ 1.4x(Z) that I now use only when my wife shoots with me. I decided to go full mirrorless w/ the Z6II + 100-400, and sold my last D500 and replaced it with a Z7II w/ 500PF. I figured that the Z7II would allow me to crop and emulate the D500's 750mm perspective. After a month of shooting, I found that I prefer the performance of the Z6II w/ 100-400 significantly more than the Z7II w/ 500PF. If you set the camera and lens AF to meet your specific needs (like matching the "stickiness setting" custom a3 I think), appropriately, the Z6II w/ native glass will swim circles around your adapted lens. I was so frustrated by my Z7II + 500PF's capacity to hold onto an owl flying in a light snow shower, that I just repurchased a D500 so I could make good use of my 500mm lens.
At this point, the Z6II + 100-400 is my preferred combination of gear and I am now considering the sale of my Z7II + grip, D500, 500PF, and FTZ(1) so I could buy a Z9.... btw, anyone interested in that trade... PM me
regards,
bruce
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First to Ai_Print... I hate to be that guy that begins with "I don't have a Z9, but..." I normally ignore a thread that begins with a "know it all" who doesn't, but it looks like that is me. Based on my month's long use of the 100-400, the only thing you will lose with the dispatch of the 200-500 is 100mm at the long end.
The 100-400 will get you 100mm on the short end, making it a perfect partner for a 24-70, 24-75, or 24-120mm lens. This w/ a Z9 could meet the needs of most professional and hobby photography. The AF motor/integration of the Z 100-400 w/ a Z-camera will ruin you for most F-mount lenses. The 100-400 responds to the Z-cameras like the F-mount cameras can't/don't. The follow focus and stickiness of the AF sensor is much better than w/ F-Glass. Finally, the 100-400 is built like Nikon's professional glass. It feels good in the hand and balances well. If you can accept the 100mm loss, the new lens is a great match for your camera.
To Lancemountain... I have discussed this in previous threads and have posted samples with more to come. As of last Sunday (a week ago), my bag consisted of the 24-70, 100-400, 500PF, Z7II and Z6II. I have a 70-200 f/2.8 w/ 1.4x(Z) that I now use only when my wife shoots with me. I decided to go full mirrorless w/ the Z6II + 100-400, and sold my last D500 and replaced it with a Z7II w/ 500PF. I figured that the Z7II would allow me to crop and emulate the D500's 750mm perspective. After a month of shooting, I found that I prefer the performance of the Z6II w/ 100-400 significantly more than the Z7II w/ 500PF. If you set the camera and lens AF to meet your specific needs (like matching the "stickiness setting" custom a3 I think), appropriately, the Z6II w/ native glass will swim circles around your adapted lens. I was so frustrated by my Z7II + 500PF's capacity to hold onto an owl flying in a light snow shower, that I just repurchased a D500 so I could make good use of my 500mm lens.
At this point, the Z6II + 100-400 is my preferred combination of gear and I am now considering the sale of my Z7II + grip, D500, 500PF, and FTZ(1) so I could buy a Z9.... btw, anyone interested in that trade... PM me
regards,
bruce
Edited on Jan 22, 2022 at 08:20 AM · View previous versions
Jan 22, 2022 at 07:25 AM
p.18 #12Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
OwlsEyes wrote:
In response to both Lancemountain and Ai_Print...
First to Ai_Print... I hate to be that guy that beings with "I don't have a Z9, but..." I normally ignore thread that begins with a "know it all" who doesn't, but it looks like that is me. Based on my month use of the 100-400, the only thing you will lose with the dispatch of the 200-500 is 100mm at the long end.
The 100-400 will get you 100mm on the short end, making it a perfect partner for a 24-70, 24-75, or 24-120mm lens. This w/ a Z9 could meed the needs...Show more →
I keep questioning you, sorry...
But, what makes Z6II "superior" to Z7II with 100-400s, if I understand you correctly?
Thanks, George
Jan 22, 2022 at 07:40 AM
p.18 #13Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
OwlsEyes wrote:
In response to both Lancemountain and Ai_Print...
First to Ai_Print... I hate to be that guy that begins with "I don't have a Z9, but..." I normally ignore a thread that begins with a "know it all" who doesn't, but it looks like that is me. Based on my month's long use of the 100-400, the only thing you will lose with the dispatch of the 200-500 is 100mm at the long end.
The 100-400 will get you 100mm on the short end, making it a perfect partner for a 24-70, 24-75, or 24-120mm lens. This w/ a Z9 could meet...Show more →
Incredibly helpful and thank you for bumping the thread. I’m on the older side so searching sometimes is frustrating.
May I ask one more question if I may? Have you experimented with TC’s with the 100-400?
Jan 22, 2022 at 09:56 AM
p.18 #14Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
Lancemountain wrote:
First to Ai_Print... I hate to be that guy that begins with "I don't have a Z9, but..." I normally ignore a thread that begins with a "know it all" who doesn't, but it looks like that is me. Based on my month's long use of the 100-400, the only thing you will lose with the dispatch of the 200-500 is 100mm at the long end.
The 100-400 will get you 100mm on the short end, making it a perfect partner for a 24-70, 24-75, or 24-120mm lens. This w/ a Z9 could meet the needs of most professional and hobby photography. The AF motor/integration of the Z 100-400 w/ a Z-camera will ruin you for most F-mount lenses. The 100-400 responds to the Z-cameras like the F-mount cameras can't/don't. The follow focus and stickiness of the AF sensor is much better than w/ F-Glass. Finally, the 100-400 is built like Nikon's professional glass. It feels good in the hand and balances well. If you can accept the 100mm loss, the new lens is a great match for your camera.
To Lancemountain... I have discussed this in previous threads and have posted samples with more to come. As of last Sunday (a week ago), my bag consisted of the 24-70, 100-400, 500PF, Z7II and Z6II. I have a 70-200 f/2.8 w/ 1.4x(Z) that I now use only when my wife shoots with me. I decided to go full mirrorless w/ the Z6II + 100-400, and sold my last D500 and replaced it with a Z7II w/ 500PF. I figured that the Z7II would allow me to crop and emulate the D500's 750mm perspective. After a month of shooting, I found that I prefer the performance of the Z6II w/ 100-400 significantly more than the Z7II w/ 500PF. If you set the camera and lens AF to meet your specific needs (like matching the "stickiness setting" custom a3 I think), appropriately, the Z6II w/ native glass will swim circles around your adapted lens. I was so frustrated by my Z7II + 500PF's capacity to hold onto an owl flying in a light snow shower, that I just repurchased a D500 so I could make good use of my 500mm lens.
At this point, the Z6II + 100-400 is my preferred combination of gear and I am now considering the sale of my Z7II + grip, D500, 500PF, and FTZ(1) so I could buy a Z9.... btw, anyone interested in that trade... PM me
regards,
bruceIncredibly helpful and thank you for bumping the thread. I’m on the older side so searching sometimes is frustrating.
May I ask one more question if I may? Have you experimented with TC’s with the 100-400?
Most everyone is reporting that the 1.4TC is close to bare lens in terms of IQ and AF, and that 2X works very well on the Z9. I suspect it won't work well on the Z6/Z7.
OwlsEyes wrote
In response to both Lancemountain and Ai_Print...First to Ai_Print... I hate to be that guy that begins with "I don't have a Z9, but..." I normally ignore a thread that begins with a "know it all" who doesn't, but it looks like that is me. Based on my month's long use of the 100-400, the only thing you will lose with the dispatch of the 200-500 is 100mm at the long end.
The 100-400 will get you 100mm on the short end, making it a perfect partner for a 24-70, 24-75, or 24-120mm lens. This w/ a Z9 could meet the needs of most professional and hobby photography. The AF motor/integration of the Z 100-400 w/ a Z-camera will ruin you for most F-mount lenses. The 100-400 responds to the Z-cameras like the F-mount cameras can't/don't. The follow focus and stickiness of the AF sensor is much better than w/ F-Glass. Finally, the 100-400 is built like Nikon's professional glass. It feels good in the hand and balances well. If you can accept the 100mm loss, the new lens is a great match for your camera.
To Lancemountain... I have discussed this in previous threads and have posted samples with more to come. As of last Sunday (a week ago), my bag consisted of the 24-70, 100-400, 500PF, Z7II and Z6II. I have a 70-200 f/2.8 w/ 1.4x(Z) that I now use only when my wife shoots with me. I decided to go full mirrorless w/ the Z6II + 100-400, and sold my last D500 and replaced it with a Z7II w/ 500PF. I figured that the Z7II would allow me to crop and emulate the D500's 750mm perspective. After a month of shooting, I found that I prefer the performance of the Z6II w/ 100-400 significantly more than the Z7II w/ 500PF. If you set the camera and lens AF to meet your specific needs (like matching the "stickiness setting" custom a3 I think), appropriately, the Z6II w/ native glass will swim circles around your adapted lens. I was so frustrated by my Z7II + 500PF's capacity to hold onto an owl flying in a light snow shower, that I just repurchased a D500 so I could make good use of my 500mm lens.
At this point, the Z6II + 100-400 is my preferred combination of gear and I am now considering the sale of my Z7II + grip, D500, 500PF, and FTZ(1) so I could buy a Z9.... btw, anyone interested in that trade... PM me
regards,
bruce
May I ask one more question if I may? Have you experimented with TC’s with the 100-400?
Most everyone is reporting that the 1.4TC is close to bare lens in terms of IQ and AF, and that 2X works very well on the Z9. I suspect it won't work well on the Z6/Z7.
Jan 22, 2022 at 10:01 AM
p.18 #15Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
cvrle59 wrote:
OwlsEyes wrote
In response to both Lancemountain and Ai_Print...First to Ai_Print... I hate to be that guy that beings with "I don't have a Z9, but..." I normally ignore thread that begins with a "know it all" who doesn't, but it looks like that is me. Based on my month use of the 100-400, the only thing you will lose with the dispatch of the 200-500 is 100mm at the long end.
The 100-400 will get you 100mm on the short end, making it a perfect partner for a 24-70, 24-75, or 24-120mm lens. This w/ a Z9 could meed the needs of most professional and hobby photography. The AF motor/integration of the Z 100-400 w/ a Z-camera will ruin you for most F-mount lenses. The 100-400 responds to the Z-cameras like the F-mount cameras can't/don't. The follow focus and stickiness of the AF sensor is much better than w/ F-Glass. Finally, the 100-400 is build like Nikon's professional glass. It feels good in the hand and balances well. If you can accept the 100mm loss, the new lens is a great match for your camera.
To Lancemountain... I have discussed this in previous threads and have posted samples with more to come. As of last Sunday (a week ago), my bag consisted of the 24-70, 100-400, 500PF, Z7II and Z6II. I have a 70-200 f/2.8 w/ 1.4x(Z) that I now use only when my wife shoots with me. I decided to go full mirrorless w/ the Z6II + 100-400, and sold my last D500 and replaced with a Z7II w/ 500PF. I figured that the Z7II would allow me to crop in and emulate the D500's 750mm perspective. After a month of shooting, I found that I prefer the performance of the Z6II w/ 100-400 significantly more than the Z7II w/ 500PF. If you set the camera and lens AF to meet your specific needs (like matching the "stickiness setting" custom a3 I think), appropriately, the Z6II w/ native glass will swim circles around your adapted lens. I was so frustrated by my Z7II + 500PF's capacity to hold onto an owl flying in a light snow shower, that I just repurchased a D500 so I could make good use of my 500mm lens.
At this point, the Z6II + 100-400 is my preferred combination of gear and I am now considering the sale of my Z7II + grip, D500, 500PF, and FTZ(1) so I could buy a Z9.... btw, anyone interested in that trade... PM me
regards,
bruce
But, what makes Z6II "superior" to Z7II with 100-400s, if I understand you correctly?
Thanks, George
No … the Z6II & Z7II are the same… the difference is the 100-400S v 500PF on ZII bodies
Jan 22, 2022 at 10:23 AM
p.18 #16Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
100-400S with TCx1.4, Z9. Slight crop on the first one, no cropping on the second shot.
Jan 23, 2022 at 06:45 AM
p.18 #18Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
The picture is not much to talk about as I shot this against bright hazy sky and the bird was pretty black and required a lot of post processing to pull out detail from the shadow but the swollow was there so why not
Z9 + 100-400 with TCx1.4 at f8 560mm, lots and lots of cropping.
I rather like the AF on this lens, even with TC
Z9 + 100-400 with TCx1.4 at f8 560mm, lots and lots of cropping.
I rather like the AF on this lens, even with TC
Jan 25, 2022 at 07:57 AM
p.18 #19Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
A pair of long eared owls...
This 100-400 is a pleasure to use, as it offers great compositional flexibility!
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This 100-400 is a pleasure to use, as it offers great compositional flexibility!
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Jan 25, 2022 at 07:51 PM
p.18 #20Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread
I can't believe it, how close you get to those birds, are those domesticated owls, LoL... beautiful shots, the lens renders so nicely.
Jan 25, 2022 at 07:56 PM