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Archive 2021 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming

  
 
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p.2 #1 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Charlie N wrote:
latest ones are very good, 24 f1.8 and even 35 f1.8


On the A7R III, the 45/1.8 and 85/1.4 are also pretty much flawless, i.e. snappy and accurate including in AF-C and Eye AF. The 45/1.8 in particular blows the Sigma 45/2.8 out of the water in the AF department.



Oct 11, 2021 at 04:13 PM
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p.2 #2 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


mudlake wrote:
Just to clarify about what you said about the built in adapter on the Sigmas - their new “dg dn” lenses are specifically built for Sony so there are no adapters.

Oh yes of course. But still large & heavy, I'm surprised Sigma didn't work on that as that, and not the quality, has been the main criticism.



Oct 11, 2021 at 11:04 PM
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p.2 #3 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


teddoman wrote:
How is the AF in Samyang AF lenses?


To see them in action, and not just listen to a variety of opinions, go to watch the Dustin Abbott (esp.) and Christopher Frost videos on Youtube. They have reviewed the AF of all of the Samyang lenses.



Oct 11, 2021 at 11:12 PM
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p.2 #4 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Charlie N wrote:
does anyone care that it's parfocal? it doesnt electronically zoom


It's important to those who specialise in video, maintaining focus whilst manually zooming or following the action.



Oct 11, 2021 at 11:13 PM
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p.2 #5 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Frogfish wrote:
It's important to those who specialise in video, maintaining focus whilst manually zooming or following the action.


unless you're using a gear system and tripod, it's gonna look like a total mess. there's a reason why the ZV-1, ZV-E10, FX3, all have the zoom rockers.... I have a gear setup for a zoom I have.... it's a mess to deal with. You'd be much better off with an electronic zoom to start with, and there are a few for the E-mount system, even close to parfocal.

it could be that samyang saw what the motorized 16-35 and tried to get a jump on sony with the 24-70



Oct 12, 2021 at 01:37 AM
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p.2 #6 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Zoom rockers and manual focusing are two completely different things though.

I'd use zoom rockers for video and pull focus for 'film'.

Parfocal lenses are great but I'm not expecting it at this price point and for what will be a stills oriented device.



Oct 12, 2021 at 02:36 AM
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p.2 #7 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


It seems as if the Samyang is heavier than the Sigma and the Sony 24-70 2.8.


Oct 12, 2021 at 05:02 PM
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Oct 13, 2021 at 02:50 AM
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p.2 #9 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


zeitlos wrote:
Video

It's hard to go by a video like that, but it doesn't seem the most impressive? The bokeh is far from pleasing.
It's also rather substantial... bigger than the Sigma, from the looks of it.



Oct 13, 2021 at 02:57 AM
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p.2 #10 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


zz wrote:
The bokeh is far from pleasing.


I agree, hard to tell from a video. But what is it that made you believe this?



Oct 13, 2021 at 04:50 AM
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zeitlos wrote:
I agree, hard to tell from a video. But what is it that made you believe this?

If you pause the video at 1:31 you can see some pretty serious onion-rings. That's about all the video tells you though



Oct 13, 2021 at 04:57 AM
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p.2 #12 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Hm, I cannot really see it here on my iPad Pro 11,9. Probably I need a bigger screen.

However, the main question is: are they worse than let‘s say those of the Sigma or Sony 24-70? And if they are, how huge is the margin in price?
The Sony GM seems to suffer massively from it?

https://www.cameralabs.com/sony-fe-24-70mm-f2-8-gm-review/2/



Oct 13, 2021 at 05:15 AM
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p.2 #13 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


I think Samyang doesn't have the tech to completely eliminate onion rings, most if not all their lenses (those with asph elements I guess) suffer from them to some extent. In my case, on 45mm f1.8 they were rather pronounced, on 35mm f1.8 they were less visible, on 85mm f1.4 I don't recall any...
I'll have to check my 24-70DN .



Oct 13, 2021 at 05:21 AM
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p.2 #14 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


zeitlos wrote:
Hm, I cannot really see it here on my iPad Pro 11,9. Probably I need a bigger screen.

I'm pixelpeeping on a 43" 4K screen
But yes, you're right. Most lenses in this category aren't completely free from onion rings or specular highlights. The sample in the video is probably very unflatering and not respresentative of most use cases. I remember the Sigma 35/1.4 DG DN also having bad luck in reviews like that, but a lot of people on FM are very happy with theirs.



Oct 13, 2021 at 05:29 AM
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p.2 #15 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Samyang made a really dramatic announcement video:




Oct 19, 2021 at 02:31 AM
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p.2 #16 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


https://www.lcegroup.co.uk/New/samyang-24-70mm-f28-af-for-sony-fe-mount_98777.html
It's a heavy lens at 1096g as my 24-70GM only comes in at 886g in comparison


Edited on Oct 19, 2021 at 04:19 AM · View previous versions



Oct 19, 2021 at 04:13 AM
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p.2 #17 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


"Cine Kit: A Samyang ''Cine Kit'', consisting of focus gearing, follow focus and tripod mount, will be available separately. This allows system exchange at the same time as lens change (with small configuration), so manoeuvrability is very good. In addition, a mount kit and follow focus are provided, allowing essential elements of video shooting at the same time."

I like the ambition here!



Oct 19, 2021 at 04:18 AM
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Oct 19, 2021 at 06:36 AM
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p.2 #19 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Also the price is set at 999$ at BH. Only 100$ less than the Sigma 24-70/F2.8. Bold move by Samyang, we will see if the quality is there when full reviews are published.


Oct 19, 2021 at 07:13 AM
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p.2 #20 · Samyang 24-70 F2.8 coming


Official launch today.

https://petapixel.com/2021/10/19/the-999-samyang-24-70mm-f-2-8-parfocal-lens-has-launched-globally/?fbclid=IwAR10H2qqVMVbWeXCEpA54ea6a3FaOxihGo9LAquU73Vni9E9V74u3bmM4ls



Oct 19, 2021 at 03:03 PM
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