p.1 #2 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
For me if I was to upgrade from M5 (I have it) it would be to M6II with 34mpx.
Although people say that 34mpx is beyond the resolution of most EFM lens - 34mpx enables printing 20% bigger (or cropping 20% more) for landscape with a non iq limiting lens. Eg EFM 35. Or adapted Laowa 15 mm.
p.1 #3 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
dhphoto wrote:
Is there anything significant in the M50 Mark II that would make me upgrade from my M5, considering I never shoot video?
Apart from a better positioned on/off switch, & a bit lighter improvements are not obvious to me.
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The M50 has perhaps slightly better focus tracking. Unless the majority of your uses is shooting action, your GAS would be better served picking up the most excellent EF-M 32mm or 22mm if you don't already have them.
p.1 #4 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
Scott Stoness wrote:
For me if I was to upgrade from M5 (I have it) it would be to M6II with 34mpx.
Although people say that 34mpx is beyond the resolution of most EFM lens - 34mpx enables printing 20% bigger (or cropping 20% more) for landscape with a non iq limiting lens. Eg EFM 35. Or adapted Laowa 15 mm.
But I am focussed on landscape.
Thanks. I struggle without a viewfinder and the clip on ones just make the camera so unwieldy
I don't like the M5, I never have, although I really like the M series, especially the 11-22mm lens
I have 2x M's, an M3 and an M5 and out of all of them I like the M3 best (including oddly for IQ), but then again it has no built-in VF. There's the dilemma.
I don't need 34 meg, I have other camera like my 5DSR if I need higher res.
The M50 II just seems smaller & more compact, but I would lose direct access to the exposure compensation dial
p.1 #5 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
brad-man wrote:
The M50 has perhaps slightly better focus tracking. Unless the majority of your uses is shooting action, your GAS would be better served picking up the most excellent EF-M 32mm or 22mm if you don't already have them.
No GAS, just having a look at what I have and if it needs a bit of an update
I'm a pro just rendered unemployed by Brexit & the pandemic, so may do some downsizing is all
There don't seem any stand-out features in the M50II, but I thought it worth asking
p.1 #6 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
dhphoto wrote:
Is there anything significant in the M50 Mark II that would make me upgrade from my M5, considering I never shoot video?
Apart from a better positioned on/off switch, & a bit lighter improvements are not obvious to me.
As far as the sensor is concerned, I don't think the upgrade is worth it. For the other components I think it very well could be worth the upgrade. AF is much more robust, the processor is more capable, burst rates are better and EVF performance is probably better. If these things are important to you then it might be worth it.
p.1 #8 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
I use the M5 as a walk around camera that fits in my jacket pocket as well as if I'm driving somewhere and want a camera just in case.
The camera is set to aperture priority 95% of the time so I'm ready to shoot quickly and having the exposure compensation dial right on top next to my thumb was the reason for choosing it over the M50. I can't get used to no viewfinder so again the M5 won out over the M6.
Shots with the M5 are likely going to be random street shots or a bird or animal I see while driving so they're not going to be anything other than a FB post. The M5 IQ is more than adequate in this case.
p.1 #9 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
jtford9 wrote:
I use the M5 as a walk around camera that fits in my jacket pocket as well as if I'm driving somewhere and want a camera just in case.
The camera is set to aperture priority 95% of the time so I'm ready to shoot quickly and having the exposure compensation dial right on top next to my thumb was the reason for choosing it over the M50. I can't get used to no viewfinder so again the M5 won out over the M6.
Shots with the M5 are likely going to be random street shots or a bird or animal I see while driving so they're not going to be anything other than a FB post. The M5 IQ is more than adequate in this case. ...Show more →
p.1 #10 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
Why don’t you like the M5? I had both the M3 and M5, I part exed the M3 towards an R6. I kept the M5 because it’s more capable. I couldn’t see any difference in image quality.
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p.1 #11 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
I think you'd probably see some differences, maybe renting a few days might make sense? Haven't used though.
Curious about iq on the R3? How hard to adapt Ef-S?
p.1 #12 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
dhphoto wrote:
Must be a big jacket!
The 22mm is my 'walkaround' I assume yours too?
Big guy, big pockets, about the same size as a Silverback Gorilla.
I actually like the kit 15-45 for daytime urban shooting, but keep the 22mm handy for when it starts to get dark. I've used it at night in NYC by sitting it on a mailbox or holding it against a lightpost.
Scott who replied above posted a fantastic landscape shot on another M5 thread, using the 15-45. Showed what can be done in skilled hands with a good eye.
p.1 #15 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
TeamSpeed wrote:
M50 has eye AF, 4K video, and silent shutter, not sure if the M5 has that or not?
Yeah, I'm not sure the M5 has eye AF. I used one for a month or so a while back and I don't recall that feature being available. Though it may do face or object tracking. I found that when the M5's focus point was put on a person's face, it often focused slightly behind the eyes. Most of the time I used the 22/2 on it. Otherwise I liked the it, but that slight misfocusing really bothered me.
Fast forward to the M6II... I generally had really great, very consistent in focus eyes with it, using eye AF with the 22 and 32/1.4 (a very sharp lens!). Biggest dislike for me about the M6II was lack of built-in EVF. If the M50II has similar eye AF capability as found in the M6II, I'd consider upgrading from the M5 (if I had one).
p.1 #16 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
Sir_Loin wrote:
Why don’t you like the M5? I had both the M3 and M5, I part exed the M3 towards an R6. I kept the M5 because it’s more capable. I couldn’t see any difference in image quality.
I simply like the IQ of the M3 better, it's sharper and more contrasty. If you look up in the Dpreview camera tests you can confirm it. I expect the M5 prioritised high ISO, but for me the M3 is more pleasing.
I don't like the M5's angular body, sharp corners, the EVF sticks out making it less pocketable and I find the buttons awkward. It was the camera I wanted to love when it came out, but I just don't.
p.1 #17 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
jtford9 wrote:
Scott who replied above posted a fantastic landscape shot on another M5 thread, using the 15-45. Showed what can be done in skilled hands with a good eye.
That's one of the reasons I like the M system, I have earned lots using the 11-22mm lens, which I really rate
I'm also a great advocate of the DLO function in DPP4 which really can improve the IQ of average lenses (which is how I would rate the 15-45)
But these days they are so good it's always the user, never the camera that's at fault
p.1 #18 · M5 v M50 Mark II for stills only, any real difference?
If I was upgrading, I'd spring for M6 MK II. I have the 90D and the M6 MK II shares the same sensor and most features, save for the optical VF. It is an impressive sensor and feature set, and would be great in a compact M body. I have the tilting EVF leftover from my M3 days (didn't care for the camera) but really liked the titling ability of the EVF for low level shooting, macro and video. Almost worth buying a M62 just to use that EVF. After trying it for a while, I've come to like using 4K video, and the M62 is the only M series with full frame width 4K.
