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p.1 #1 · GH5 II and GH6


Surprised to see no discussion here. Looks like a good and inspiring update

https://youtu.be/agLcoQareug

https://youtu.be/Sm2MNZgAt7o



May 25, 2021 at 04:15 PM
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p.1 #2 · GH5 II and GH6


I’m surprised as well. Then again, seems very much aimed at the video crowd. For photography, even if the GH6 ups the resolution a bit, it’s a very expensive camera. For video, it’s apparently going to be a steal compared to the competition.


May 25, 2021 at 04:22 PM
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Based on the GH6 5.7k/60p and 4k/120p video features that would suggest a new high-speed 24mp sensor. I look forward to hearing more details on this new sensor and to see the next body from OMDS that uses a version of this sensor with PDAF.


May 25, 2021 at 04:24 PM
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p.1 #4 · GH5 II and GH6


I am more hopeful that Panasonic is trying to keep the platform relevant even if that means offering video focused product.

I hope it helps to update G9 and potentially EM1.3 with newer sensor, faster read out and in case of Olympus PDAF. I would happily buy 24MP G9 II or EM1.4 with decent improvement in CAF



May 25, 2021 at 05:08 PM
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p.1 #5 · GH5 II and GH6


And do not forget about the firmware updates for both the G9 (adding better/faster DFD tracking and live composite) and Pro Res Raw for the GH5s (as well as the same auto focus improvements added to the G9).

As a long term Canon user for more than 25 years (film and digital) I have been impressed with the reliability, the firmware support and the customer-focused stance that Panasonic has maintained since the GH series began. I still shoot my Canon stuff, but have been even more attracted to the attributes of the GH5, GH5s and the G9 since they all came out. As much as I feared that the GH5II was going to be uninteresting, I applaud their approach to the evolution of their system. Looking forward to hearing more about the GH6 too.

EDIT, just confirmed that the live composite is not being added to the G9 but it is going to be added as a firmware addition to the GH5II after the camera is released. Sorry for the misinformation.

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May 25, 2021 at 06:01 PM
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p.1 #6 · GH5 II and GH6


the GH5ii looks interesting (video).

GH6, if the price is 2500, I may pass for a good while, dont want to spend that much. What bothered me with the G9 and GH5 has the same issue is lack of 10 bit 4K 60 in camera, and generally, the codec selection seems kinda not great.

may just keep the G9 as my B-cam rather than GH5ii or GH6 as an A cam. 2.4 firmware update solves a huge nag.... the recording outline..... that crap has been killing me for the longest time. 2x AF will be nice.....



May 26, 2021 at 12:02 AM
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p.1 #7 · GH5 II and GH6


We got the announcements early this morning via email, but zero detail. I am joining this thread to keep up; I think µ4/3rds is still relevant. Looking forward to learning more.


May 26, 2021 at 10:19 PM
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The GH5 II seems to be exactly what many video creators on a budget needs. A proven workhorse upgraded to the current technological standard. I don't need a GH6, but a couple of GH5 II bodies would be perfect for my video needs.


May 30, 2021 at 01:05 AM
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p.1 #9 · GH5 II and GH6


GH5s should start popping up for good prices.


Jul 17, 2021 at 05:31 PM
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say_doyster wrote:
And do not forget about the firmware updates for both the G9 (adding better/faster DFD tracking and live composite) and Pro Res Raw for the GH5s (as well as the same auto focus improvements added to the G9).

As a long term Canon user for more than 25 years (film and digital) I have been impressed with the reliability, the firmware support and the customer-focused stance that Panasonic has maintained since the GH series began. I still shoot my Canon stuff, but have been even more attracted to the attributes of the GH5, GH5s and the G9 since they all came
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The G9 has been one of the best deals in photography and amateur videography for the last 3 years now. At one point, you could pick one up for $1,000 CAD brand new. That's ridiculous. I would do awful things for a G9 feature set in a smaller body.



Aug 05, 2021 at 01:11 PM
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LUMIX Countdown | Official Panasonic Store
https://shop.panasonic.com/lumix/countdown

Well, it looks like the wait is finally over...no 8K, no mention of their long-promised organic sensor. (Sigh.)



Feb 08, 2022 at 07:07 PM
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jimmy462 wrote:
LUMIX Countdown | Official Panasonic Store
https://shop.panasonic.com/lumix/countdown

Well, it looks like the wait is finally over...no 8K, no mention of their long-promised organic sensor. (Sigh.)


I don’t think either was expected.



Feb 08, 2022 at 07:35 PM
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"But this organic sensor technology will be implemented into the cinema and studio camera and even into the consumer including Lumix after the Tokyo Olympic Games." Panasonic's Takashi Ishii at the 2:35 Mark here back in 2019 at IBC...

An exclusive insight into the Panasonic 8K organic sensor - YouTube




Feb 08, 2022 at 09:20 PM
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jimmy462 wrote:
"But this organic sensor technology will be implemented into the cinema and studio camera and even into the consumer including Lumix after the Tokyo Olympic Games." Panasonic's Takashi Ishii at the 2:35 Mark here back in 2019 at IBC...

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It feels like I have been hearing about the organic sensor for ~8 years now. I guess I stopped listening to that promise awhile ago. IMO, anyone paying attention probably was not expecting an organic sensor, especially with m43 struggling as it is.

I will be interested to see what comes out for both Olympus and Panasonic. I can see myself getting back into m43 if we get better AF-C. Not concerned about increased sensor resolution myself.



Feb 08, 2022 at 10:14 PM
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From m43 rumors: "They claim that tracking is 5 times better than in GH5." The headline says: "AF tracking five times faster than on the GH5."

I wonder what faster and better mean? For example, I am a very fast typist, but not a good one.



Feb 11, 2022 at 09:28 AM
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"Rolling shutter is gone for good", finally, if true, what I've been able to do all along with my Super8 cameras, that only took the industry a few decades to accomplish! Ha!

If they start talking electronic, voltage-controlled variable ND and 15-stops DR, too, it will speak well to a possible organic sensor?! 9 years has been a long wait to get something out of R&D and into customer's hands...

Fujifilm and Panasonic jointly develop an organic CMOS image sensor technology using organic photoelectric conversion layer | Headquarters News | Panasonic Newsroom Global
https://news.panasonic.com/global/press/data/2013/06/en130611-7/en130611-7.html

...I'm not a 50-something anymore!



Feb 11, 2022 at 11:00 AM
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p.1 #17 · GH5 II and GH6


hoodlum90 wrote:
Based on the GH6 5.7k/60p and 4k/120p video features that would suggest a new high-speed 24mp sensor. I look forward to hearing more details on this new sensor and to see the next body from OMDS that uses a version of this sensor with PDAF.


The new sensor is 25.5MP (or close to that - it's between 25 and 26... ). Of course, that could be the actual pixels, with only 24MP actually used for the image area, as is the case for most camera sensor specs.



Feb 15, 2022 at 12:44 PM
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molson wrote:
The new sensor is 25.5MP (or close to that - it's between 25 and 26... ). Of course, that could be the actual pixels, with only 24MP actually used for the image area, as is the case for most camera sensor specs.


Asobinet was saying it's a 30 MP sensor but 4/3 rumors are saying they're wrong. Bummer. But at least it's looking like a new sensor of some variant.

If they give us the High Res modes that they have in the S1 lineup, this will be very compelling even for stills. Panasonic implements that tech miles better than anyone from my experience.



Feb 16, 2022 at 01:18 PM
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Someone released their GH6 Hands-on video too early.

https://www.43rumors.com/full-panasonic-gh6-specs-and-new-images-leaked/

25 million pixel PLF-less sensor
100 million pixel high-resolution shooting
5.7K video
Sensor read up to 300
fps High-speed read at 4K resolution 120 fps
Suppression of rolling shutter
Computation processing capacity is about double
New Intelligent detail
New 2D noise reduction
High performance 3D-NR (video)
Improved AF performance Processing speed is 3 times faster than before DFD performance evolution

New recording mode
4K120p 4: 2: 0 10bit 300Mbps
4K 60p 4: 2: 2 10bit 800Mbps /
600Mbps 5.7K 60p 4: 2: 0 10bit
300Mbps C4K 120p 4: 2: 0 10bit
300Mbps C4K 60p 4: 2: 2 10bit 800Mbps / 600Mbps

Recording file method supports Apple ProRes in addition to MP4 and MOV
5.7K 30p Apple ProRes 422 HQ 1.9Gbps

Card slot: CFexpress TypeB slot, UHSII compatible SD card slot
Weight: 739g


Dynamic range boost function: It is possible to shoot a wide dynamic range image at a maximum of 60 fps by synthesizing an overexposed image and an underexposed image in real time. Achieves a dynamic range of up to 13+ stops approaching the full size. The minimum ISO sensitivity is 800, and when using V-log it is 2000, so an ND filter is essential.

Image stabilization: Adopts an ultra-high performance gyro sensor and a new algorithm, and has a correction effect equivalent to 7.5 steps. Smooth image stabilization that is ideal for movies.

Dark place performance: High-sensitivity noise is much suppressed compared to GH5II while increasing the number of pixels. It can be used normally up to ISO3200.

Built-in microphone evolved from 16bit to 24bit. 4 channels can be recorded when using an XLR adapter.

Phase-difference AF is not installed, but AF is much better. The AF calculation speed has tripled, the background omission and tracking performance have been greatly improved, and the AF speed has also become considerably faster.

There are 315 AF points in the full area. Human, face / pupil, animal + human subject recognition can be used in all AF modes. The focus range can be set with the focus limiter.




Feb 16, 2022 at 01:31 PM
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hoodlum90 wrote:
Someone released their GH6 Hands-on video too early.

https://www.43rumors.com/full-panasonic-gh6-specs-and-new-images-leaked/

25 million pixel PLF-less sensor
100 million pixel high-resolution shooting
5.7K video
Sensor read up to 300
fps High-speed read at 4K resolution 120 fps
Suppression of rolling shutter
Computation processing capacity is about double
New Intelligent detail
New 2D noise reduction
High performance 3D-NR (video)
Improved AF performance Processing speed is 3 times faster than before DFD performance evolution

New recording mode
4K120p 4: 2: 0 10bit 300Mbps
4K 60p 4: 2: 2 10bit 800Mbps /
600Mbps 5.7K 60p 4: 2: 0 10bit
300Mbps C4K 120p 4: 2: 0 10bit
300Mbps C4K 60p 4: 2: 2 10bit 800Mbps / 600Mbps

Recording file method supports Apple ProRes in addition to
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That's pretty beefy (739g). But it's also pretty dang impressive. That tilting/fully articulating screen is slick! Surprised to see the GH6 beating the GH5ii by that much in low light. Can't wait to see real world reviews that I can understand, lol!



Feb 16, 2022 at 01:57 PM
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