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Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

isohw wrote:
I see Sigma ahead on this extreme corner f/4 comparison;

thank you for this lens review

This f/4 result, to my eyes, seems not in keeping with the rest of the aperture series. Perhaps the focus ring got bumped a very tiny amount. Personally, I wouldn't make much of this one shot until I saw it repeated. I agree with Fred's assessment at both f/2.8 and f/5.6 that the CV is better at f/2.8 and there isn't much difference at f/5.6, but at f/4 the CV oddly seems a small amount worse. Maybe the Sigma just jumps a lot more from f/2.8 to f/4 and the CV has more gradual improvement from f/2.8 to f/5.6, but maybe the f/4 CV shot was affected by changing light or a small inadvertent focus error.

Apr 11, 2021 at 06:55 AM

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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

From a landscape shooting perspective, I think my Tamron could give both of these lenses a run for the money. The Sigma looks really good from a rendering perspective, at least against the CV. I could see me picking it up as my general AF/rendering/jack of all trades lens. That leaves the CV up against my Tamron. The MF experience will be worlds better with the CV, but I think the Tamron will hold up (or be better at some apertures) from an image perspective.

Apr 11, 2021 at 07:43 AM

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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

The Sigma seems to hold up really well--I do wonder if the difference is worth almost twice the cost for the CV (or over 5 times the cost compared to the Tamron!)? I'm also wondering about the leaked Sigma 35 1.4--I guess too many choices is better than too few, but I don't know if I should keep the CV that's arriving tomorrow or go with another option. (Plus, I already have the CV 35/1.2 and CV 35/1.4!)

Apr 11, 2021 at 08:00 AM

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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

tsdevine wrote:
From a landscape shooting perspective, I think my Tamron could give both of these lenses a run for the money. The Sigma looks really good from a rendering perspective, at least against the CV. I could see me picking it up as my general AF/rendering/jack of all trades lens. That leaves the CV up against my Tamron. The MF experience will be worlds better with the CV, but I think the Tamron will hold up (or be better at some apertures) from an image perspective.

I'm always worried about my MF experience but have to say the Sigma feels nice. I'm basing my 35mm lens on two lenses and honestly this two maybe too close to each other. Obviously I want to see Fred tests on the CV versus the GM as I'm starting to think I want bigger differences in my 2 35 lenses and I think these are too close. Sure the CV may top the Sigma but does not seem like a lot. It may come down to sunstars and flare as the bigger differences. I think if we are all smart here we maybe coming down to about 5 lenses
Sony 35 GM
Sigma 35 1.4 coming
Sigma 35 F2
Cv 35 apo
Sony 35 1.8
Or really jump off the tracks with like a CV 1.4

Obviously all need to be tested under our own preferences but for someone that has tested a load of these 35 and I mean all available not sure we ever got to this . Great times

Apr 11, 2021 at 08:16 AM

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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

If the 35i MF is anything like my 65i, which I would expect it would be, I agree it feels really nice. You have both and sort of confirm that.

I really don't do sunstar shooting, so that's not a huge plus for me. But hopefully I'll know soon enough. My CV 35 left Santa Clarita at 5 PM on Thursday and is somewhere between there and Harrisburg.

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I'm always worried about my MF experience but have to say the Sigma feels nice. I'm basing my 35mm lens on two lenses and honestly this two maybe too close to each other. Obviously I want to see Fred tests on the CV versus the GM as I'm starting to think I want bigger differences in my 2 35 lenses and I think these are too close. Sure the CV may top the Sigma but does not seem like a lot. It may come down to sunstars and flare as the bigger differences. I think if we are all smart...Show more →

Apr 11, 2021 at 09:24 AM

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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

Look forward to your findings Tim!
I have been using the Tamron 35 and looking at Fred’s findings have given me some pause. It isn’t a cheap lens and doesn’t look as good as the other 3 APO’s or my Loxia 25 in the corners.

tsdevine wrote:
If the 35i MF is anything like my 65i, which I would expect it would be, I agree it feels really nice. You have both and sort of confirm that.

I really don't do sunstar shooting, so that's not a huge plus for me. But hopefully I'll know soon enough. My CV 35 left Santa Clarita at 5 PM on Thursday and is somewhere between there and Harrisburg.

Apr 11, 2021 at 09:59 AM

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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

genji wrote:
Interesting that the specular highlights showing visible outlining in the samples I posted from the M-mount version prompted shock and horror but don’t seem to elicit the same extreme response with the E-mount version. Go figure.

Tribal cohesion.

We cut our own some slack.

Apr 11, 2021 at 10:06 AM

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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

However, the samples posted by Juha kannisto, the corners of F4 is perfect, as excellent as AL50, and I don't think it is caused by the difference between 24mp and 60mp. If there is astigmatism, it can be observed even on 24mp

May have to wait 3～4 days to get my copy，too slow -__-

TakenWild wrote:
Look forward to your findings Tim!
I have been using the Tamron 35 and looking at Fred’s findings have given me some pause. It isn’t a cheap lens and doesn’t look as good as the other 3 APO’s or my Loxia 25 in the corners.

Apr 11, 2021 at 10:37 AM

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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

isohw wrote:
I see Sigma ahead on this extreme corner f/4 comparison;

thank you for this lens review

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Steve Spencer wrote:
This f/4 result, to my eyes, seems not in keeping with the rest of the aperture series. Perhaps the focus ring got bumped a very tiny amount. Personally, I wouldn't make much of this one shot until I saw it repeated. I agree with Fred's assessment at both f/2.8 and f/5.6 that the CV is better at f/2.8 and there isn't much difference at f/5.6, but at f/4 the CV oddly seems a small amount worse. Maybe the Sigma just jumps a lot more from f/2.8 to f/4 and the CV has more gradual improvement from f/2.8 to f/5.6,...Show more →

The Sigma has a noticeable bump in resolution from f/2 to f/2.8 and an even bigger from f/2.8 to f/4 where it's pretty much optimal at the extreme corners.
I will repeat this test when I get my second CV 35/2 APO E-mount copy on Monday. I always like testing a few copies even though my current one is well centered.

Apr 11, 2021 at 11:24 AM

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Apr 11, 2021 at 11:28 AM

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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

I've been waiting for this lens for a long time.
I have a huge problem with loCA, I hate them, can't tolerate them at all and don't understand why almost nobody cares. Sure you can like pick a purple in LR and have it all removed but that's a bandage fix it's really just removing every single pixel in that color range that's not a "correction" at all because there's no theoretical model to perfectly correct for it, unlike all the other lens correction options.

Apr 11, 2021 at 01:59 PM

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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

DavidBM wrote:
It's not a big difference, many lenses have much more for sure, but it's enough to take note of, and I guess probably contributes to the overall FL difference.

At infinity distance, correcting distortion does not help much. The Sigma 35/2 is still much wider in comparison.
Here are they compared with distortion correction "ON".

(TOP) Sigma | Voigtlander (BOTTOM)

Apr 11, 2021 at 03:48 PM

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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

Fred Miranda wrote:
At infinity distance, correcting distortion does not help much. The Sigma 35/2 is still much wider in comparison.
Here are they compared with distortion correction "ON".
Wow! Almost no difference at infinity!

Apr 11, 2021 at 04:41 PM

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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

I like the wider Sigma

For me 14,20,32,65,135 is adjusting to perfect
Liking this Sigma

Apr 11, 2021 at 04:55 PM

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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

I only have an a7R III....so I think I'll just wait to judge until I can compare. Given that these are on the a7R IV, realistically I can't compare given what I see.

Not saying it is going to blow these away...but I think it will hang. I'd be happy if the CV handily beat the Tamron 35 though.

Fred Miranda wrote:
Hi Tim,
The Tamron 35/2.8 does perform great at infinity but it's unlikely it will do better than these lenses. The CV has a very strong mid-field and very few 35mm lenses will match this.
If you do get to test them at infinity, please post it here so I can link it to the review.

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Apr 11, 2021 at 04:58 PM

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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

Hi!
Sorry for my not good English, I write from Italy.
I'm a landscape amateur photographer.
i want buy a 35mm prime lens only for landscape (40% daytime, 60% urban nightime).
For me it's essential sharpness, resistance to flare and sunstar.
my doubt is this Voigtlander or the new 35mm sonygm?
mf is not a problem as I shot only landscape
my gear is Sony a 7r4.
thank you for help me!

Apr 11, 2021 at 05:03 PM

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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

We don’t have Fred’s tests from the 35GM yet but it’s hard to imagine a better landscape 35mm lens than what he’s testing here—CV 35APO.

iPixel wrote:
Hi!
Sorry for my not good English, I write from Italy.
I'm a landscape amateur photographer.
i want buy a 35mm prime lens only for landscape (40% daytime, 60% urban nightime).
For me it's essential sharpness, resistance to flare and sunstar.
my doubt is this Voigtlander or the new 35mm sonygm?
mf is not a problem as I shot only landscape
my gear is Sony a 7r4.
thank you for help me!

Apr 11, 2021 at 05:39 PM

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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

iPixel wrote:
Hi!
Sorry for my not good English, I write from Italy.
I'm a landscape amateur photographer.
i want buy a 35mm prime lens only for landscape (40% daytime, 60% urban nightime).
For me it's essential sharpness, resistance to flare and sunstar.
my doubt is this Voigtlander or the new 35mm sonygm?
mf is not a problem as I shot only landscape
my gear is Sony a 7r4.
thank you for help me!

Ciao iPixel!

I have the GM but haven’t tested the Apo Lanthar yet, but Fred’s test and other excellent samples like those from @genji have shown us what to expect.

The GM is probably the best all-round 35 we have seen, combining speed, smoothness, and quite good portability with outstanding correction.

But for just landscape use I’d definitely go with the Apo Lanthar. It will be as sharp, smaller, lighter, very nice manual focus feel, and better sun stars, which you won’t have to stop as far down for. It’s only flaw (and it’s a matter of taste whether it’s a flaw) is a bit more structure and outlining on OOF highlights wide open than the class leaders in this respect, the new Sigma and the GM. But this is irrelevant for landscape.

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Apr 11, 2021 at 05:46 PM

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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

Will buy both, cut out the subject on the Voigtlander and paste it onto the Sigma 35mm f2 background with smoother OOF rendering. Best of both worlds.

Apr 11, 2021 at 05:48 PM

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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

ReleaseDrive wrote:
Will buy both, cut out the subject on the Voigtlander and paste it onto the Sigma 35mm f2 background with smoother OOF rendering. Best of both worlds.

Just stop the Sigma down to f4, cut the subject into an f2 frame, if you are up for that kind of thing.

Apr 11, 2021 at 05:50 PM

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