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p.7 #1Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
KINGOFKNGS wrote:
Is this camera prone to not focusing on a bird if it is drastically defocused? This happens with my R5/600iii when the lens’ focus is set very far and then a bird appears very close. The bird is so defocused and the camera picks the background to focus on as opposed to the bird. Anybody seen this happen on the A1?
I haven't tested specifically for this yet but my feeling is that the A1 will have the same issue all of them have. This isn't something you can really fix as the sensor can't see at a great DOF like the off sensor PDAF sensor can in a DSLR (I think I've read it sees at f/22 or so).
There will have to be some different advancement in AF to get rid of this problem. I don't even think that the QPAF of future Canon bodies will make any difference.
Is this camera prone to not focusing on a bird if it is drastically defocused? This happens with my R5/600iii when the lens’ focus is set very far and then a bird appears very close. The bird is so defocused and the camera picks the background to focus on as opposed to the bird. Anybody seen this happen on the A1?
I haven't tested specifically for this yet but my feeling is that the A1 will have the same issue all of them have. This isn't something you can really fix as the sensor can't see at a great DOF like the off sensor PDAF sensor can in a DSLR (I think I've read it sees at f/22 or so).
There will have to be some different advancement in AF to get rid of this problem. I don't even think that the QPAF of future Canon bodies will make any difference.
Mar 15, 2021 at 05:55 PM
p.7 #2Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Can u please tell us if you are getting 0.9x magnification at 60hz?
arbitrage wrote:
I don't see any benefit of using 240hz. The eye point backs out and magnification decreases which sort of negates the great EVF you are paying for. So I've been leaving mine in High 120hz. But even that is probably part of the problem with battery drain.
The only way to get full EVF quality is to put it at 60Hz...but even then as soon as you engage AF you can notice it drop resolution. So you are never getting more than the 5.75M dots for action shooting.
arbitrage wrote:
shadow9d9 wrote
From what I saw in a video last night, using 240hz in the EVF is a killer on battery drain.The only way to get full EVF quality is to put it at 60Hz...but even then as soon as you engage AF you can notice it drop resolution. So you are never getting more than the 5.75M dots for action shooting.
Mar 15, 2021 at 05:56 PM
p.7 #3Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Jemini wrote:
Can u please tell us if you are getting 0.9x magnification at 60hz?
I don't see any benefit of using 240hz. The eye point backs out and magnification decreases which sort of negates the great EVF you are paying for. So I've been leaving mine in High 120hz. But even that is probably part of the problem with battery drain.
The only way to get full EVF quality is to put it at 60Hz...but even then as soon as you engage AF you can notice it drop resolution. So you are never getting more than the 5.75M dots for action shooting.
Yes. Anytime the EVF is not showing any obvious black outline it is 0.9x. I only see it go to the zoomed out view with black borders if I switch to 240. Before getting the camera I thought I had read that going to 30FPS also zoomed out but it doesn't. There is also the setting in the menus to put it in the zoomed out mode if you prefer it (if you wear glasses it may be preferred).
Can u please tell us if you are getting 0.9x magnification at 60hz?
arbitrage wrote
shadow9d9 wrote
From what I saw in a video last night, using 240hz in the EVF is a killer on battery drain.The only way to get full EVF quality is to put it at 60Hz...but even then as soon as you engage AF you can notice it drop resolution. So you are never getting more than the 5.75M dots for action shooting.
Yes. Anytime the EVF is not showing any obvious black outline it is 0.9x. I only see it go to the zoomed out view with black borders if I switch to 240. Before getting the camera I thought I had read that going to 30FPS also zoomed out but it doesn't. There is also the setting in the menus to put it in the zoomed out mode if you prefer it (if you wear glasses it may be preferred).
Mar 15, 2021 at 06:04 PM
p.7 #4Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.Mar 15, 2021 at 06:50 PM
p.7 #5Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
j4nu wrote:
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test...Show more →
I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test...Show more →
I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.
Mar 15, 2021 at 08:06 PM
p.7 #6Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Thank you Geoff. I think I should really see what it's like. I wear glasses. Even after using a9 for couple of years, I still can't get used to EVF. One of the headline features for me was the .9x viewfinder. If I can't get it (with glasses) it'll be disappointing.
arbitrage wrote:
I don't see any benefit of using 240hz. The eye point backs out and magnification decreases which sort of negates the great EVF you are paying for. So I've been leaving mine in High 120hz. But even that is probably part of the problem with battery drain.
The only way to get full EVF quality is to put it at 60Hz...but even then as soon as you engage AF you can notice it drop resolution. So you are never getting more than the 5.75M dots for action shooting.Yes. Anytime the EVF is not showing any obvious black outline it is 0.9x. I only see it go to the zoomed out view with black borders if I switch to 240. Before getting the camera I thought I had read that going to 30FPS also zoomed out but it doesn't. There is also the setting in the menus to put it in the zoomed out mode if you prefer it (if you wear glasses it may be preferred).
arbitrage wrote:
Jemini wrote
Can u please tell us if you are getting 0.9x magnification at 60hz?arbitrage wrote
shadow9d9 wrote
From what I saw in a video last night, using 240hz in the EVF is a killer on battery drain.The only way to get full EVF quality is to put it at 60Hz...but even then as soon as you engage AF you can notice it drop resolution. So you are never getting more than the 5.75M dots for action shooting.
Mar 15, 2021 at 08:29 PM
p.7 #7Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
AGeoJO wrote:
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test ), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.
Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...
j4nu wrote
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well
). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Mar 16, 2021 at 12:56 AM
p.7 #8Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
j4nu wrote:
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test ), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...
Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?
AGeoJO wrote
j4nu wrote
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C. ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?
Mar 16, 2021 at 01:06 AM
p.7 #9Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Stoffer wrote:
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test ), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?
No idea... I can only say that for me it's the high quality option that is really impressive.
j4nu wrote
AGeoJO wrote
j4nu wrote
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C. ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...No idea... I can only say that for me it's the high quality option that is really impressive.
Mar 16, 2021 at 01:27 AM
p.7 #10Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
As a followup to my battery test post. My A1 stayed in its Power Saver Mode for 24hrs. At that time both batteries still said 100%.
Mar 16, 2021 at 12:57 PM
p.7 #11Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
kimknapp wrote:
No, actually it did not happen after changing the sleep period, sorry if I wasn't clear.
I was just noting that after I changed the sleep from the default the first day when I had the problems to 5 min and went back out yesterday for 4 hours, it did not happen. Having a longer timeout does reduce the number of times it will go to sleep, so there may be something to that.
Although it could be related to a number of other things, too.
I think we should keep track of settings when it happens, to help zero in on the...Show more →
Just a friendly FYI.
When I clicked on your Smugmug icon the website did not load on my computer.
Robert
No, actually it did not happen after changing the sleep period, sorry if I wasn't clear.
I was just noting that after I changed the sleep from the default the first day when I had the problems to 5 min and went back out yesterday for 4 hours, it did not happen. Having a longer timeout does reduce the number of times it will go to sleep, so there may be something to that.
Although it could be related to a number of other things, too.
I think we should keep track of settings when it happens, to help zero in on the...Show more →
Just a friendly FYI.
When I clicked on your Smugmug icon the website did not load on my computer.
Robert
Mar 16, 2021 at 04:14 PM
p.7 #12Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Stoffer wrote:
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test ), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?
Look at the table on page 2 of this thread.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
j4nu wrote
AGeoJO wrote
j4nu wrote
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C. ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Look at the table on page 2 of this thread.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
Mar 16, 2021 at 06:31 PM
p.7 #13Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
dclark wrote:
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test ), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?Look at the table on page 2 of this thread.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
Thanks for 're'posting this. I was looking for this info. In your opinion what gives better EVF experience? 60fps and 9.44m dots or 120fps and 5.76m dots? Assuming fast action is the only thing I care about (BIF). I think I'd like .9x magnification.
Stoffer wrote
j4nu wrote
AGeoJO wrote
j4nu wrote
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C. ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
Thanks for 're'posting this. I was looking for this info. In your opinion what gives better EVF experience? 60fps and 9.44m dots or 120fps and 5.76m dots? Assuming fast action is the only thing I care about (BIF). I think I'd like .9x magnification.
Mar 17, 2021 at 06:36 AM
p.7 #14Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Thanks. I'll fix it. Cancelled Smugmug and will eventually use Flicker.
Mar 17, 2021 at 06:40 AM
p.7 #15Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
arbitrage wrote:
I haven't tested specifically for this yet but my feeling is that the A1 will have the same issue all of them have. This isn't something you can really fix as the sensor can't see at a great DOF like the off sensor PDAF sensor can in a DSLR (I think I've read it sees at f/22 or so).
There will have to be some different advancement in AF to get rid of this problem. I don't even think that the QPAF of future Canon bodies will make any difference.
Interesting. I noticed this annoying behavior with A9 and thought I was doing something wrong. I usually point the camera to ground to focus closer and then aim at the subject.
KINGOFKNGS wrote
Is this camera prone to not focusing on a bird if it is drastically defocused? This happens with my R5/600iii when the lens’ focus is set very far and then a bird appears very close. The bird is so defocused and the camera picks the background to focus on as opposed to the bird. Anybody seen this happen on the A1?There will have to be some different advancement in AF to get rid of this problem. I don't even think that the QPAF of future Canon bodies will make any difference.
Interesting. I noticed this annoying behavior with A9 and thought I was doing something wrong. I usually point the camera to ground to focus closer and then aim at the subject.
Mar 17, 2021 at 06:42 AM
p.7 #16Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Jemini wrote:
Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test ), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C.I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow.Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?Look at the table on page 2 of this thread.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295Thanks for 're'posting this. I was looking for this info. In your opinion what gives better EVF experience? 60fps and 9.44m dots or 120fps and 5.76m dots? Assuming fast action is the only thing I care about (BIF). I think I'd like .9x magnification.
You can't get 9.44M for any BIF no matter the setting because as soon as you initiate AF the resolution drops even in 60hz. 60 Hz is not good for fast moving things. Like if you are watching a hummingbird feed at flowers through the EVF, waiting for it to move to a better flower you often won't see it move in the EVF, will have to take your eye away from the EVF to find where it went and then get back on it (often too late). At 120Hz you usually can see it move in the EVF and get on it fast at the new flower.
dclark wrote
Stoffer wrote
j4nu wrote
AGeoJO wrote
j4nu wrote
One weird thing I run into today is that with EVF on high quality and AF-C using Sony 50 ZA I saw only a brief resolution drop when focusing (think like in AF-S), even though the focus points were indicating a near constant lock. When I tried the same the other day with Sigma 35 f1.2, the resolution dropped for all the time I half-pressed the shutter to acquire focus.Not sure if this is a coincidence or if the same can be observerd on targets requiring more demanding continuous focus (I used a fairly static computer screen for this test
), but it would be a big advantage over 3rd party if Sony native lenses could minimize the time the EVF resolution drops during focus acquisition in AF-C. ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
You can't get 9.44M for any BIF no matter the setting because as soon as you initiate AF the resolution drops even in 60hz. 60 Hz is not good for fast moving things. Like if you are watching a hummingbird feed at flowers through the EVF, waiting for it to move to a better flower you often won't see it move in the EVF, will have to take your eye away from the EVF to find where it went and then get back on it (often too late). At 120Hz you usually can see it move in the EVF and get on it fast at the new flower.
Mar 17, 2021 at 07:33 AM
p.7 #17Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
arbitrage wrote:
Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?Look at the table on page 2 of this thread.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295Thanks for 're'posting this. I was looking for this info. In your opinion what gives better EVF experience? 60fps and 9.44m dots or 120fps and 5.76m dots? Assuming fast action is the only thing I care about (BIF). I think I'd like .9x magnification.You can't get 9.44M for any BIF no matter the setting because as soon as you initiate AF the resolution drops even in 60hz. 60 Hz is not good for fast moving things. Like if you are watching a hummingbird feed at flowers through the EVF, waiting for it to move to a better flower you often won't see it move in the EVF, will have to take your eye away from the EVF to find where it went and then get back on it (often too late). At 120Hz you usually can see it move in the EVF and...Show more →
Thanks you Geoff. So 120/5.76/ at .9x or .78x is the option for BIF. With glasses I might have to zoom out.
I think A9 has 3.7M dots and 60fps for continuous shooting. I have to try it out to really understand the difference.
Jemini wrote
dclark wrote
Stoffer wrote
j4nu wrote
AGeoJO wrote
I just tested my Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and I didn’t notice what you described. It is semi dark already although my windows are open, the room was mostly lit with indoor lights. I will play with that some more though and will report back later, probably tomorrow. ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
Thanks you Geoff. So 120/5.76/ at .9x or .78x is the option for BIF. With glasses I might have to zoom out.
I think A9 has 3.7M dots and 60fps for continuous shooting. I have to try it out to really understand the difference.
Mar 17, 2021 at 08:03 AM
p.7 #18Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
Jemini wrote:
). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?Look at the table on page 2 of this thread.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295Thanks for 're'posting this. I was looking for this info. In your opinion what gives better EVF experience? 60fps and 9.44m dots or 120fps and 5.76m dots? Assuming fast action is the only thing I care about (BIF). I think I'd like .9x magnification.You can't get 9.44M for any BIF no matter the setting because as soon as you initiate AF the resolution drops even in 60hz. 60 Hz is not good for fast moving things. Like if you are watching a hummingbird feed at flowers through the EVF, waiting for it to move to a better flower you often won't see it move in the EVF, will have to take your eye away from the EVF to find where it went and then get back on it (often too late). At 120Hz you usually can see it move in the EVF and get on it fast at the new flower.Thanks you Geoff. So 120/5.76/ at .9x or .78x is the option for BIF. With glasses I might have to zoom out.
I think A9 has 3.7M dots and 60fps for continuous shooting. I have to try it out to really understand the difference.
Yes and the A9 is where I have more experience trying the 60Hz. That is where I noticed my hummingbird issues. The A9 probably drops to 2.X M dots the way I shoot it in Higher refresh of 120Hz.
arbitrage wrote
Jemini wrote
dclark wrote
Stoffer wrote
j4nu wrote
Thanks. I tried again and I think it depends on how sensitive the lens is in regards to focus in AF-C. If the lens is constantly doing micro-adjustments, then the resolution drops (but you need something farily detailed in the EVF to see the difference, that's why I used my computer screen with this forum displayed, but any text would work as well ). If the camera believes the focus does not need any adjustments, the EVF keeps its high quality display...https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
I think A9 has 3.7M dots and 60fps for continuous shooting. I have to try it out to really understand the difference.
Yes and the A9 is where I have more experience trying the 60Hz. That is where I noticed my hummingbird issues. The A9 probably drops to 2.X M dots the way I shoot it in Higher refresh of 120Hz.
Mar 17, 2021 at 09:39 AM
p.7 #19Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
arbitrage wrote:
Look at the table on page 2 of this thread.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295Thanks for 're'posting this. I was looking for this info. In your opinion what gives better EVF experience? 60fps and 9.44m dots or 120fps and 5.76m dots? Assuming fast action is the only thing I care about (BIF). I think I'd like .9x magnification.You can't get 9.44M for any BIF no matter the setting because as soon as you initiate AF the resolution drops even in 60hz. 60 Hz is not good for fast moving things. Like if you are watching a hummingbird feed at flowers through the EVF, waiting for it to move to a better flower you often won't see it move in the EVF, will have to take your eye away from the EVF to find where it went and then get back on it (often too late). At 120Hz you usually can see it move in the EVF and get on it fast at the new flower.Thanks you Geoff. So 120/5.76/ at .9x or .78x is the option for BIF. With glasses I might have to zoom out.
I think A9 has 3.7M dots and 60fps for continuous shooting. I have to try it out to really understand the difference.Yes and the A9 is where I have more experience trying the 60Hz. That is where I noticed my hummingbird issues. The A9 probably drops to 2.X M dots the way I shoot it in Higher refresh of 120Hz.
I see. So either way A1 is a big upgrade. Good to know.
Jemini wrote
arbitrage wrote
Jemini wrote
dclark wrote
Stoffer wrote
Very interesting. Do we know how much the EVF resolution drops?https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688214/1#15507295
I think A9 has 3.7M dots and 60fps for continuous shooting. I have to try it out to really understand the difference.
I see. So either way A1 is a big upgrade. Good to know.
Mar 17, 2021 at 09:46 AM
p.7 #20Sony A1 - Bird Photography Camera for Dummies
arbitrage wrote:
somersettr wrote:
Joshua/Geoff - congrats on the new camera.
I've now found two things that I consider "broken" on the A1 The second is when I run my EVF/LCD in pseudo DSLR mode it doesn't show me the exposure changes I'm making at the bottom of the LCD like it does on the previous cameras. That function was my workaround for not having a top LCD. Unless I'm missing some setting...I will investigate further.
Do you not run yours with the EVF showing real time exposure? I have been and not sure I like it. If you aren't how do you set the EVF brightness? Auto, manual?
somersettr wrote:
Joshua/Geoff - congrats on the new camera.
I've now found two things that I consider "broken" on the A1 The second is when I run my EVF/LCD in pseudo DSLR mode it doesn't show me the exposure changes I'm making at the bottom of the LCD like it does on the previous cameras. That function was my workaround for not having a top LCD. Unless I'm missing some setting...I will investigate further.
Do you not run yours with the EVF showing real time exposure? I have been and not sure I like it. If you aren't how do you set the EVF brightness? Auto, manual?
Mar 17, 2021 at 11:56 AM