Now what? We have three new 35mm lenses. (Sony 35/1.4 GM, Sigma 35/2 and CV 35/2 APO)
The new 35/2 APO will be for those who don't mind MF and hate axial CA....but will still find traces of it and be disappointed.
Yes I think it's even harder to eliminate the last traces of LoCA at 35mm than longer...even though longer lenses, have more LoCA uncorrected. But we'll see.
But I'm looking forward to this one. It might have nice sunstars and so be a potential replacement for the Loxia 35 which is so nice stopped down, as well as not having the blobs of flare you sometimes (well, always) get with the Lox 35 and the sun in the frame. Cobine that with being way way better than the Loxia wide open, and it's attractive. But it may boil down to just stunstars and a slight improvement in CA against the DGDN. Can I justify another 35 for that?
realVivek wrote:
Hope they delay the release like the GM while they check their lenses for flaws. I will not be buying one if it is going to be like their AL 50/2 in E mount.
Hint to Cosina: check the epoxy you use for bonding your glass.
What happened? First I came across someone mentioned this epoxy issue.
I wonder why Voigtlaender choose not optimize their 35/1.7 for E mount but came with a new f2 design. They can save some resources this way and release a 28/1.4 but In the mean time I'm fine with but FE 28/2 handpicked by a Sony technician (that distortion doesn't really bothers me, since a $5000 Leica Q2 has that kind of distortion too )
I don't think I'm getting this 35/2, since 40/1.2 works for me (I don't enjoy sell and buy..) .
Had this come couple years back, I would have jumped for it. Maybe. But I love my CV40/1.2 soooo much that I will not replace it, ever... Like others said, the overall rendering trumps absolute image quality for me. And the CV40 on my A7III body is already stellar landscape lens at f/5.6-f/10 range. And there's the Sigma. When I will get a 35mm it will be the new I-series, to complement my new 24mm and 65mm Sigmas. Nice rendering, snappy autofocus and surprisingly good manual focusing when I want to. And the absolute IQ is more than good enough for me.
We truly are spoilt with good choices today.
PS. Count me in as someone hoping for a 28mm fast wide from CV. And some fast portrait-oriented lens between 75 to 90mm. Please.
According to Nokishita Japan price is 128000 including tax (10%). Usually Nokishita's leaked prices are a bit higher than e.g. Map Camera and lower than official prices. They are usually aligned with pricing in stores like Bic Camera, Yodobashi Camera etc. Actually when Nokishita leaked the price for 50/2 APO VM, it was exactly same 128000 yen and that lens is priced identically with E-mount 50/2 APO. I'd expect this to be very close to 50/2 APO in real pricing based on this leak in Japan but pricing can always be a bit different in other markets.
Those will probably be announced on Friday since Nokishita already got release timelines and prices.
nhsonyshooter wrote:
Wow. $1200.00. Was not expecting that. Was not planning on getting it but even for CV that seems alittle on the high side.
Feb 11, 2021 at 08:04 AM
Steve Spencer Offline Upload & Sell: On
Actually, I wonder if CV can make like a UWA apo? Has anyone made one yet? I guess the Sony GM is basically that?
Zeiss has of course made the Otus 28 f/1.4 APO, but that is the widest lens I know of that is APO. Leica has a 21 f/2 APO (as well as a 24 f/2 APO and 28 f/2 APO) on the L mount roadmap which is the widest that I know of that has been announced as planned. The Sony 24 f/1.4 GM is a very nice lens, but definitely not APO. I doubt CV will make anything wider than 35 as an APO lens. I would love to be wrong about that. I would especially like a 28 f/2 APO, but CV hasn't built any 28mm lenses for a long time and none for Sony E mount, so I won't hold my breath on the 28 f/2 APO that I would like.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Zeiss has of course made the Otus 28 f/1.4 APO, but that is the widest lens I know of that is APO. Leica has a 21 f/2 APO (as well as a 24 f/2 APO and 28 f/2 APO) on the L mount roadmap which is the widest that I know of that has been announced as planned. The Sony 24 f/1.4 GM is a very nice lens, but definitely not APO. I doubt CV will make anything wider than 35 as an APO lens. I would love to be wrong about that. I would especially like a 28 f/2 APO, but CV hasn't built any 28mm lenses for a long time and none for Sony E mount, so I won't hold my breath on the 28 f/2 APO that I would like....Show more →
Well the Sony 20mm F1.8 is basically APO even though it is not advertised as such.
keepcoding wrote:
Well the Sony 20mm F1.8 is basically APO even though it is not advertised as such.
I have the 20 and it really tested amazingly well. It’s a keeper. I have the 35 1.8 as well very sharp very nice AF lens , good for jobs but I want a 35mm rendering king also so I may add this to my kit . I love having real working glass but than glass that I like for my own rendering needs so my plan is to have both the Sony 35 and maybe this.
Feb 11, 2021 at 09:43 AM
Steve Spencer Offline Upload & Sell: On
keepcoding wrote:
Well the Sony 20mm F1.8 is basically APO even though it is not advertised as such.
APO has a very specific definition (three specific wavelength focus at exactly the focal plane) that we can't really test as regular photographers. Sure the Sony 20 f/1.8 has fairly low axial CA, but that is not the same thing as APO at all. It is often a result of an APO lens, but an APO lens can have some axial CA and still be APO, and lenses with fairly low axial CA can be not APO at all.
I do think the 20 f/1.8 looks like a really nice lens and I plan to get it myself, but I don't think we should say it is basically an APO lens, because it very well may not be.
My current 35mm is the Samyang AF 35mm F1.8. It pairs very well with the SY 75/1.8 which is even better and in fact a really good lens (very sharp if that is important and also with low LoCA and a low degree of flare. Both lenses AF fast and with great precision. They are both better than their Sony equivalents (to my eyes that is, yes YMMV) and are actually possible to carry for long distances.
Another very good thing with the SY lenses is that they are cheap. Kind of disposable... should one drop a lens or something else happens it's nice that it didn't happen to an über-expensive GM.
So, I'll use the SY35/1.8 when in need of fast good autofocusing and if Cosina Voigtländer hasn't messed it up in some way I'll make good use of this new 35mm APO for everything else.
Thank you mr. Hirofumi!
Oh, and btw, reading contributor Maximilian calling Cosina for "sheep" gave me a laughter.
DavidBM wrote:
Yes I think it's even harder to eliminate the last traces of LoCA at 35mm than longer...even though longer lenses, have more LoCA uncorrected. But we'll see.
But I'm looking forward to this one. It might have nice sunstars and so be a potential replacement for the Loxia 35 which is so nice stopped down, as well as not having the blobs of flare you sometimes (well, always) get with the Lox 35 and the sun in the frame. Cobine that with being way way better than the Loxia wide open, and it's attractive. But it may boil down to just stunstars and a slight improvement in CA against the DGDN. Can I justify another 35 for that?...Show more →
It's very likely it will outperform the Loxia 35 even stopped down so I think that's an easier decision. However, I'm not sure that the stronger axial correction will be more important than AF in the case of the new Sigma. That will depend on one's priorities.
The Sigma's rendering is pleasant to my eyes.
Throw in the 35/1.4 GM to the mix and it will be very hard to choose The one.
There will be unavoidably two... The GM and the Apo.
Fred Miranda wrote:
It's very likely it will outperform the Loxia 35 even stopped down so I think that's an easier decision. However, I'm not sure that the stronger axial correction will be more important than AF in the case of the new Sigma. That will depend on one's priorities.
The Sigma's rendering is pleasant to my eyes.
Throw in the 35/1.4 GM to the mix and it will be very hard to choose The one.