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Jemini wrote:
MedicineMan404 wrote
Jemini wrote"I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable."

You will make me sell 500 PF sooner than I thought and order A1 again

When I saw this fight between two male blue birds in my backyard, I got out with D500 and 500 PF. They fought for a while even ignoring me being close to them. I missed most shots with both birds in mid air. I think I would've gotten the shot I wanted with A9 and 100-400 which I just got and was not comfortable using it. I don't even I had the right setting in the camera at that time. Now I use more and more Sony and D500 is collecting dust.

arbitrage wrote
Jemini wrote
CalvinBird wroteIt's not bad, but R5's Zone AF performs better in such situation (see following video), and I think A9II's Zone AF even better.

If you can hold the camera and keep the bird in the middle of the frame, the camera will get it in focus. Honestly D500 (D850, D5 and D6) can do this. But it will be utilizing only center 5 points (group) and you need to make sure the bird is under one of those 5 points vs Sony/Canon will be utilizing 100 (may be) points.
Agreed. Cameras that I've owned that I would trust to get me a good string of shots with that situation are D500, D850, R5, A9 and A9II. 1DXII would be a little less confidence inspiring but could do it sometimes. Of course D5, D6 would do it (I just never owned them) and 1DXIII would probably be good also as would an R6.

I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable. I'd probably have a little more confidence in a D500/850 over an R5/6 but those are close. It is nice on the MILCs to have larger AF areas to work with.

A9:

D850:
Jemini. I will always miss the 500PF but like the 400DOii, I'd more often grab the 200-600. I suffer the weight of it but that's just my age/physical condition, but the 200-600 is truly the greatest overall-do-it-all wildlife lens I've ever used....what 'slowness' it has aperture or focus speed wise is overcome by the a9. I bet moreso with the alpha1. I just tire of DSLR in general though the D500 ...for what it was.... was a great camera.
The only thing I have that rivaled the a9+200600, and this from a 'wieldability' and weight standpoint is the A7Riv+100400GM and of course using the cropability of the Riv. That too might soon be rendered moot with the alpha.
Really more than the 500PF I miss the 300PF but after all practical AF was lost via firmware updates it too gathered dust.
ve
I completely understand what you are talking about. One thing I still struggle is the balance of A9+200-600 compared to D500/D850+500PF. Even though the weight difference is only 1LB you would feel much more than that with Sony Combo. I know the general concept of MILC is less weight and size. But I prefer much bigger camera with nice grip with long lenses. I'm sure I'm not alone. I know A1 (A9 II/A7RIV) has better grip. I tried it from a store. But no way close to D500 or even R5. Sony need to make the camera little bit more
...Show more →

I think using an RRS base plate is great and like Sony giving me the option to adjust weight. I can be small and light or heavy, depending on the situation.

Just yesterday we had a very good wedding photographer friend with the Canon r6 + 50/1.2 visiting us. I handled the R6 again for quite some time and cannot agree with the "better grip" mantra.
I use the Sony with the RRS base plates or battery grip and prefer their ergonomics to that of the Canon clearly. Could be years of Sony use now, don't know. My wife thought the same (I found the space between 50/1.2 R and fingers to be extremely small, too.). This tells me, again, it is extremely subjective.

Using the battery grip the A9ii is about 1kg, heavier than the D500 many use without grip. The 250g difference when using a battery grip on the D500 can be mitigated by using a small weight instead of a battery insight the grip in case that really is of importance.

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Feb 26, 2021 at 02:06 AM
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I agree with the above, ergonomics are subjective. So you can't say "taller would be better" because many people would think the opposite, including myself. I actually wish the A1 could be a bit smaller.

It's always possible to make the camera as big or heavy as you want, but it's impossible to make it smaller, so I really appreciate what Sony are doing and I think this is a case of a win win for everybody.
Feb 26, 2021 at 02:48 AM
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Sure, it could be subjective. I definitely agree people have different requirements and likes.

Quick question. What's your main lens? Is it a tele lens like 200-600/400/2.8 or small prime lenses/normal zooms? That could make a difference.

When u have a 7-8 LB lens on ur camera and u support the lens with left hand, a great grip for right hand is necessary. When it's shallow, your middle finger get squeezed by the bump below the shutter button and pinky finger will be hanging below the body. This doesn't happen immediately. If u shoot with a long lens for extended period of time you will feel it. Also the size of the hand matters.

I shot with pro bodies (D4 and D2x) and 500mm lens for a period of time. I think the pro bodies have the greatest ergonomics for long lenses. I think there's a reason for CaNikon to make big pro bodies.

I agree I like the smallest body to carry around or travel. But once u reach the location I wish the body 'grow' little bit . So grip is not a bad solution.

Holger wrote:
Jemini wrote
MedicineMan404 wrote
Jemini wrote"I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable."

You will make me sell 500 PF sooner than I thought and order A1 again

When I saw this fight between two male blue birds in my backyard, I got out with D500 and 500 PF. They fought for a while even ignoring me being close to them. I missed most shots with both birds in mid air. I think I would've gotten the shot I wanted with A9 and 100-400 which I just got and was not comfortable using it. I don't even I had the right setting in the camera at that time. Now I use more and more Sony and D500 is collecting dust.

arbitrage wrote
Jemini wroteIf you can hold the camera and keep the bird in the middle of the frame, the camera will get it in focus. Honestly D500 (D850, D5 and D6) can do this. But it will be utilizing only center 5 points (group) and you need to make sure the bird is under one of those 5 points vs Sony/Canon will be utilizing 100 (may be) points.
Agreed. Cameras that I've owned that I would trust to get me a good string of shots with that situation are D500, D850, R5, A9 and A9II. 1DXII would be a little less confidence inspiring but could do it sometimes. Of course D5, D6 would do it (I just never owned them) and 1DXIII would probably be good also as would an R6.

I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable. I'd probably have a little more confidence in a D500/850 over an R5/6 but those are close. It is nice on the MILCs to have larger AF areas to work with.

A9:

D850:
Jemini. I will always miss the 500PF but like the 400DOii, I'd more often grab the 200-600. I suffer the weight of it but that's just my age/physical condition, but the 200-600 is truly the greatest overall-do-it-all wildlife lens I've ever used....what 'slowness' it has aperture or focus speed wise is overcome by the a9. I bet moreso with the alpha1. I just tire of DSLR in general though the D500 ...for what it was.... was a great camera.
The only thing I have that rivaled the a9+200600, and this from a 'wieldability' and weight standpoint is the A7Riv+100400GM and of course using the cropability of the Riv. That too might soon be rendered moot with the alpha.
Really more than the 500PF I miss the 300PF but after all practical AF was lost via firmware updates it too gathered dust.
ve
I completely understand what you are talking about. One thing I still struggle is the balance of A9+200-600 compared to D500/D850+500PF. Even though the weight difference is only 1LB you would feel much more than that with Sony Combo. I know the general concept of MILC is less weight and size. But I prefer much bigger camera with nice grip with long lenses. I'm sure I'm not alone. I know A1 (A9 II/A7RIV) has better grip. I tried it from a store. But no way close to D500 or even R5. Sony need to make the camera little bit more taller. I use the RRS QR to add height. It's weird you have to attach a QR for better ergonomics!

Anyway I'm planning to use grip with A1...
I think using an RRS base plate is great and like Sony giving me the option to adjust weight. I can be small and light or heavy, depending on the situation.

Just yesterday we had a very good wedding photographer friend with the Canon r6 + 50/1.2 visiting us. I handled the R6 again for quite some time and cannot agree with the "better grip" mantra.
I use the Sony with the RRS base plates or battery grip and prefer their ergonomics to that of the Canon clearly. Could be years of Sony use now, don't know. My wife thought the same
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Feb 26, 2021 at 05:37 AM
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Jemini wrote:
Sure, it could be subjective. I definitely agree people have different requirements and likes.

Quick question. What's your main lens? Is it a tele lens like 200-600/400/2.8 or small prime lenses/normal zooms? That could make a difference.

When u have a 7-8 LB lens on ur camera and u support the lens with left hand, a great grip for right hand is necessary. When it's shallow, your middle finger get squeezed by the bump below the shutter button and pinky finger will be hanging below the body. This doesn't happen immediately. If u shoot with a long lens for extended
...Show more →
Holger wrote
Jemini wrote
MedicineMan404 wrote
Jemini wrote"I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable."

You will make me sell 500 PF sooner than I thought and order A1 again

When I saw this fight between two male blue birds in my backyard, I got out with D500 and 500 PF. They fought for a while even ignoring me being close to them. I missed most shots with both birds in mid air. I think I would've gotten the shot I wanted with A9 and 100-400 which I just got and was not comfortable using it. I don't even I had the right setting in the camera at that time. Now I use more and more Sony and D500 is collecting dust.

arbitrage wroteAgreed. Cameras that I've owned that I would trust to get me a good string of shots with that situation are D500, D850, R5, A9 and A9II. 1DXII would be a little less confidence inspiring but could do it sometimes. Of course D5, D6 would do it (I just never owned them) and 1DXIII would probably be good also as would an R6.

I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable. I'd probably have a little more confidence in a D500/850 over an R5/6 but those are close. It is nice on the MILCs to have larger AF areas to work with.

A9:

D850:
Jemini. I will always miss the 500PF but like the 400DOii, I'd more often grab the 200-600. I suffer the weight of it but that's just my age/physical condition, but the 200-600 is truly the greatest overall-do-it-all wildlife lens I've ever used....what 'slowness' it has aperture or focus speed wise is overcome by the a9. I bet moreso with the alpha1. I just tire of DSLR in general though the D500 ...for what it was.... was a great camera.
The only thing I have that rivaled the a9+200600, and this from a 'wieldability' and weight standpoint is the A7Riv+100400GM and of course using the cropability of the Riv. That too might soon be rendered moot with the alpha.
Really more than the 500PF I miss the 300PF but after all practical AF was lost via firmware updates it too gathered dust.
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I completely understand what you are talking about. One thing I still struggle is the balance of A9+200-600 compared to D500/D850+500PF. Even though the weight difference is only 1LB you would feel much more than that with Sony Combo. I know the general concept of MILC is less weight and size. But I prefer much bigger camera with nice grip with long lenses. I'm sure I'm not alone. I know A1 (A9 II/A7RIV) has better grip. I tried it from a store. But no way close to D500 or even R5. Sony need to make the camera little bit more taller. I use the RRS QR to add height. It's weird you have to attach a QR for better ergonomics!

Anyway I'm planning to use grip with A1...
I think using an RRS base plate is great and like Sony giving me the option to adjust weight. I can be small and light or heavy, depending on the situation.

Just yesterday we had a very good wedding photographer friend with the Canon r6 + 50/1.2 visiting us. I handled the R6 again for quite some time and cannot agree with the "better grip" mantra.
I use the Sony with the RRS base plates or battery grip and prefer their ergonomics to that of the Canon clearly. Could be years of Sony use now, don't know. My wife thought the same (I found the space between 50/1.2 R and fingers to be extremely small, too.). This tells me, again, it is extremely subjective.

Using the battery grip the A9ii is about 1kg, heavier than the D500 many use without grip. The 250g difference when using a battery grip on the D500 can be mitigated by using a small weight instead of a battery insight the grip in case that really is of importance.
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My left arm is not that weak to not be able to hold that 600GM.

Seriously get yourself in the weight room.

Feb 26, 2021 at 08:36 AM
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Jemini wroteSure, it could be subjective. I definitely agree people have different requirements and likes.

Quick question. What's your main lens? Is it a tele lens like 200-600/400/2.8 or small prime lenses/normal zooms? That could make a difference.

When u have a 7-8 LB lens on ur camera and u support the lens with left hand, a great grip for right hand is necessary. When it's shallow, your middle finger get squeezed by the bump below the shutter button and pinky finger will be hanging below the body. This doesn't happen immediately. If u shoot with a long lens for extended period of time you will feel it. Also the size of the hand matters.

I shot with pro bodies (D4 and D2x) and 500mm lens for a period of time. I think the pro bodies have the greatest ergonomics for long lenses. I think there's a reason for CaNikon to make big pro bodies.

I agree I like the smallest body to carry around or travel. But once u reach the location I wish the body 'grow' little bit . So grip is not a bad solution.

Holger wrote
Jemini wrote
MedicineMan404 wrote
Jemini wrote"I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable."

You will make me sell 500 PF sooner than I thought and order A1 again

When I saw this fight between two male blue birds in my backyard, I got out with D500 and 500 PF. They fought for a while even ignoring me being close to them. I missed most shots with both birds in mid air. I think I would've gotten the shot I wanted with A9 and 100-400 which I just got and was not comfortable using it. I don't even I had the right setting in the camera at that time. Now I use more and more Sony and D500 is collecting dust.
Jemini. I will always miss the 500PF but like the 400DOii, I'd more often grab the 200-600. I suffer the weight of it but that's just my age/physical condition, but the 200-600 is truly the greatest overall-do-it-all wildlife lens I've ever used....what 'slowness' it has aperture or focus speed wise is overcome by the a9. I bet moreso with the alpha1. I just tire of DSLR in general though the D500 ...for what it was.... was a great camera.
The only thing I have that rivaled the a9+200600, and this from a 'wieldability' and weight standpoint is the A7Riv+100400GM and of course using the cropability of the Riv. That too might soon be rendered moot with the alpha.
Really more than the 500PF I miss the 300PF but after all practical AF was lost via firmware updates it too gathered dust.
ve
I completely understand what you are talking about. One thing I still struggle is the balance of A9+200-600 compared to D500/D850+500PF. Even though the weight difference is only 1LB you would feel much more than that with Sony Combo. I know the general concept of MILC is less weight and size. But I prefer much bigger camera with nice grip with long lenses. I'm sure I'm not alone. I know A1 (A9 II/A7RIV) has better grip. I tried it from a store. But no way close to D500 or even R5. Sony need to make the camera little bit more taller. I use the RRS QR to add height. It's weird you have to attach a QR for better ergonomics!

Anyway I'm planning to use grip with A1...
I think using an RRS base plate is great and like Sony giving me the option to adjust weight. I can be small and light or heavy, depending on the situation.

Just yesterday we had a very good wedding photographer friend with the Canon r6 + 50/1.2 visiting us. I handled the R6 again for quite some time and cannot agree with the "better grip" mantra.
I use the Sony with the RRS base plates or battery grip and prefer their ergonomics to that of the Canon clearly. Could be years of Sony use now, don't know. My wife thought the same (I found the space between 50/1.2 R and fingers to be extremely small, too.). This tells me, again, it is extremely subjective.

Using the battery grip the A9ii is about 1kg, heavier than the D500 many use without grip. The 250g difference when using a battery grip on the D500 can be mitigated by using a small weight instead of a battery insight the grip in case that really is of importance.
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My left arm is not that weak to not be able to hold that 600GM.

Seriously get yourself in the weight room.



That doesn't help the right hand grip

Feb 26, 2021 at 08:40 AM
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Jemini wrote:
Sure, it could be subjective. I definitely agree people have different requirements and likes.

Quick question. What's your main lens? Is it a tele lens like 200-600/400/2.8 or small prime lenses/normal zooms? That could make a difference.

When u have a 7-8 LB lens on ur camera and u support the lens with left hand, a great grip for right hand is necessary. When it's shallow, your middle finger get squeezed by the bump below the shutter button and pinky finger will be hanging below the body. This doesn't happen immediately. If u shoot with a long lens for extended
...Show more →
Holger wrote
Jemini wrote
MedicineMan404 wrote
Jemini wrote"I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable."

You will make me sell 500 PF sooner than I thought and order A1 again

When I saw this fight between two male blue birds in my backyard, I got out with D500 and 500 PF. They fought for a while even ignoring me being close to them. I missed most shots with both birds in mid air. I think I would've gotten the shot I wanted with A9 and 100-400 which I just got and was not comfortable using it. I don't even I had the right setting in the camera at that time. Now I use more and more Sony and D500 is collecting dust.

arbitrage wroteAgreed. Cameras that I've owned that I would trust to get me a good string of shots with that situation are D500, D850, R5, A9 and A9II. 1DXII would be a little less confidence inspiring but could do it sometimes. Of course D5, D6 would do it (I just never owned them) and 1DXIII would probably be good also as would an R6.

I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable. I'd probably have a little more confidence in a D500/850 over an R5/6 but those are close. It is nice on the MILCs to have larger AF areas to work with.

A9:

D850:
Jemini. I will always miss the 500PF but like the 400DOii, I'd more often grab the 200-600. I suffer the weight of it but that's just my age/physical condition, but the 200-600 is truly the greatest overall-do-it-all wildlife lens I've ever used....what 'slowness' it has aperture or focus speed wise is overcome by the a9. I bet moreso with the alpha1. I just tire of DSLR in general though the D500 ...for what it was.... was a great camera.
The only thing I have that rivaled the a9+200600, and this from a 'wieldability' and weight standpoint is the A7Riv+100400GM and of course using the cropability of the Riv. That too might soon be rendered moot with the alpha.
Really more than the 500PF I miss the 300PF but after all practical AF was lost via firmware updates it too gathered dust.
ve
I completely understand what you are talking about. One thing I still struggle is the balance of A9+200-600 compared to D500/D850+500PF. Even though the weight difference is only 1LB you would feel much more than that with Sony Combo. I know the general concept of MILC is less weight and size. But I prefer much bigger camera with nice grip with long lenses. I'm sure I'm not alone. I know A1 (A9 II/A7RIV) has better grip. I tried it from a store. But no way close to D500 or even R5. Sony need to make the camera little bit more taller. I use the RRS QR to add height. It's weird you have to attach a QR for better ergonomics!

Anyway I'm planning to use grip with A1...
I think using an RRS base plate is great and like Sony giving me the option to adjust weight. I can be small and light or heavy, depending on the situation.

Just yesterday we had a very good wedding photographer friend with the Canon r6 + 50/1.2 visiting us. I handled the R6 again for quite some time and cannot agree with the "better grip" mantra.
I use the Sony with the RRS base plates or battery grip and prefer their ergonomics to that of the Canon clearly. Could be years of Sony use now, don't know. My wife thought the same (I found the space between 50/1.2 R and fingers to be extremely small, too.). This tells me, again, it is extremely subjective.

Using the battery grip the A9ii is about 1kg, heavier than the D500 many use without grip. The 250g difference when using a battery grip on the D500 can be mitigated by using a small weight instead of a battery insight the grip in case that really is of importance.


I am not a wildlife shooter. But I use cameras for 10-12h with almost no pause at weddings. With RRS base plate or battery grip, heavier lenses are very comfortable to use for me. I used Canikon before in the past (e.g. D750, D810, D5, 5d4) and occasionally use a longer lens, too, so know the difference. Without the accessory I would agree with you, but with them the Sony ergonomics works very well _for me_. But I have no problem accepting that others see that differently, everyone has different preferences. I just give my 2cts if people generalise too much, in my opinion.

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Feb 26, 2021 at 08:45 AM
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Holger wrote:
Jemini wroteSure, it could be subjective. I definitely agree people have different requirements and likes.

Quick question. What's your main lens? Is it a tele lens like 200-600/400/2.8 or small prime lenses/normal zooms? That could make a difference.

When u have a 7-8 LB lens on ur camera and u support the lens with left hand, a great grip for right hand is necessary. When it's shallow, your middle finger get squeezed by the bump below the shutter button and pinky finger will be hanging below the body. This doesn't happen immediately. If u shoot with a long lens for extended period of time you will feel it. Also the size of the hand matters.

I shot with pro bodies (D4 and D2x) and 500mm lens for a period of time. I think the pro bodies have the greatest ergonomics for long lenses. I think there's a reason for CaNikon to make big pro bodies.

I agree I like the smallest body to carry around or travel. But once u reach the location I wish the body 'grow' little bit . So grip is not a bad solution.

Holger wrote
Jemini wrote
MedicineMan404 wrote
Jemini wrote"I still find the A9/A9II system to be the most reliable."

You will make me sell 500 PF sooner than I thought and order A1 again

When I saw this fight between two male blue birds in my backyard, I got out with D500 and 500 PF. They fought for a while even ignoring me being close to them. I missed most shots with both birds in mid air. I think I would've gotten the shot I wanted with A9 and 100-400 which I just got and was not comfortable using it. I don't even I had the right setting in the camera at that time. Now I use more and more Sony and D500 is collecting dust.
Jemini. I will always miss the 500PF but like the 400DOii, I'd more often grab the 200-600. I suffer the weight of it but that's just my age/physical condition, but the 200-600 is truly the greatest overall-do-it-all wildlife lens I've ever used....what 'slowness' it has aperture or focus speed wise is overcome by the a9. I bet moreso with the alpha1. I just tire of DSLR in general though the D500 ...for what it was.... was a great camera.
The only thing I have that rivaled the a9+200600, and this from a 'wieldability' and weight standpoint is the A7Riv+100400GM and of course using the cropability of the Riv. That too might soon be rendered moot with the alpha.
Really more than the 500PF I miss the 300PF but after all practical AF was lost via firmware updates it too gathered dust.
ve
I completely understand what you are talking about. One thing I still struggle is the balance of A9+200-600 compared to D500/D850+500PF. Even though the weight difference is only 1LB you would feel much more than that with Sony Combo. I know the general concept of MILC is less weight and size. But I prefer much bigger camera with nice grip with long lenses. I'm sure I'm not alone. I know A1 (A9 II/A7RIV) has better grip. I tried it from a store. But no way close to D500 or even R5. Sony need to make the camera little bit more taller. I use the RRS QR to add height. It's weird you have to attach a QR for better ergonomics!

Anyway I'm planning to use grip with A1...
I think using an RRS base plate is great and like Sony giving me the option to adjust weight. I can be small and light or heavy, depending on the situation.

Just yesterday we had a very good wedding photographer friend with the Canon r6 + 50/1.2 visiting us. I handled the R6 again for quite some time and cannot agree with the "better grip" mantra.
I use the Sony with the RRS base plates or battery grip and prefer their ergonomics to that of the Canon clearly. Could be years of Sony use now, don't know. My wife thought the same (I found the space between 50/1.2 R and fingers to be extremely small, too.). This tells me, again, it is extremely subjective.

Using the battery grip the A9ii is about 1kg, heavier than the D500 many use without grip. The 250g difference when using a battery grip on the D500 can be mitigated by using a small weight instead of a battery insight the grip in case that really is of importance.
I am not a wildlife shooter. But I use cameras for 10-12h with almost no pause at weddings. With RRS base plate or battery grip, heaver lenses are very comfortable to use for me. I used Canikon before in the past (e.g. D750, D810, D5, 5d4) and occasionally use a longer lens, too, so know the difference. Without the accessory I would agree with you, but with them the Sony ergonomics works very well _for me_. But I have no problem accepting that others see that differently, everyone has different preferences. I just give my 2cts if people generalise too
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I agree. Don't like the ergonomics? Then add a grip. Just a few mouse clicks away. Surely that is less effort than post after post complaining about the ergos?
Feb 26, 2021 at 08:58 AM
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I prefer my Sony cameras with my 400 2.8 over the Canon 1dx and 300 2.8 I had before. Right hand doesn't need a bigger grip with these lenses, it is mainly only used to operate the camera.

In fact as someone who enjoy wildlife shooting I think one of the most important thing is usually to get a as low shooting angle as possible and the vertical grip is often in the way of getting as low as I like. I generally dislike images which looks down at wildlife.
Feb 26, 2021 at 09:05 AM
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randomguy wrote:
I prefer my Sony cameras with my 400 2.8 over the Canon 1dx and 300 2.8 I had before. Right hand doesn't need a bigger grip with these lenses, it is mainly only used to operate the camera.

In fact as someone who enjoy wildlife shooting I think one of the most important thing is usually to get a as low shooting angle as possible and the vertical grip is often in the way of getting as low as I like. I generally dislike images which looks down at wildlife.


Even if someone needs a bigger grip, for whatever reason, they just spent thousands and thousands of dollars for the lens and camera. Doesn't it make sense to just buy a grip? I got this one for $40 off Amazon. Works perfectly. It does not solve the vertical grip issue but for larger hands, problem solved.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086KYBZY8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Feb 26, 2021 at 09:49 AM
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galenapass wrote:
randomguy wroteI prefer my Sony cameras with my 400 2.8 over the Canon 1dx and 300 2.8 I had before. Right hand doesn't need a bigger grip with these lenses, it is mainly only used to operate the camera.

In fact as someone who enjoy wildlife shooting I think one of the most important thing is usually to get a as low shooting angle as possible and the vertical grip is often in the way of getting as low as I like. I generally dislike images which looks down at wildlife.
Even if someone needs a bigger grip, for whatever reason, they just spent thousands and thousands of dollars for the lens and camera. Doesn't it make sense to just buy a grip? I got this one for $40 off Amazon. Works perfectly. It does not solve the vertical grip issue but for larger hands, problem solved.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086KYBZY8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


No disagreement to anyone above. It's a personal preference. I use the RRS adapter like this one. I don't think I can change battery like shown in the picture with RRS. I can't say the overall setup looks pretty though . Anyway....
Feb 26, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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p.34 #11A1 Reviews/Video thread
First user experiences come (BIF) in:

Just got my A1 today and only had time to a quick visit to the local lake 🙂 My first impression is its way faster than my A9II and more precise and yes eye AF works .. i dont have anything to compare to but on all these shoot the AF was on their eyes. I know its not the most advanced situations but for this it worked with no problems 🙂 first impression is just WOW its fast (and i am a A9II user) The lens was GM600 f4
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonyalpha1/permalink/3558199867641222/
Feb 26, 2021 at 11:15 AM
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Jemini wroteSure, it could be subjective. I definitely agree people have different requirements and likes.

Quick question. What's your main lens? Is it a tele lens like 200-600/400/2.8 or small prime lenses/normal zooms? That could make a difference.

When u have a 7-8 LB lens on ur camera and u support the lens with left hand, a great grip for right hand is necessary. When it's shallow, your middle finger get squeezed by the bump below the shutter button and pinky finger will be hanging below the body. This doesn't happen immediately. If u shoot with a long lens for extended period of time you will feel it. Also the size of the hand matters.

I shot with pro bodies (D4 and D2x) and 500mm lens for a period of time. I think the pro bodies have the greatest ergonomics for long lenses. I think there's a reason for CaNikon to make big pro bodies.

I agree I like the smallest body to carry around or travel. But once u reach the location I wish the body 'grow' little bit . So grip is not a bad solution.

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MedicineMan404 wroteJemini. I will always miss the 500PF but like the 400DOii, I'd more often grab the 200-600. I suffer the weight of it but that's just my age/physical condition, but the 200-600 is truly the greatest overall-do-it-all wildlife lens I've ever used....what 'slowness' it has aperture or focus speed wise is overcome by the a9. I bet moreso with the alpha1. I just tire of DSLR in general though the D500 ...for what it was.... was a great camera.
The only thing I have that rivaled the a9+200600, and this from a 'wieldability' and weight standpoint is the A7Riv+100400GM and of course using the cropability of the Riv. That too might soon be rendered moot with the alpha.
Really more than the 500PF I miss the 300PF but after all practical AF was lost via firmware updates it too gathered dust.
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I completely understand what you are talking about. One thing I still struggle is the balance of A9+200-600 compared to D500/D850+500PF. Even though the weight difference is only 1LB you would feel much more than that with Sony Combo. I know the general concept of MILC is less weight and size. But I prefer much bigger camera with nice grip with long lenses. I'm sure I'm not alone. I know A1 (A9 II/A7RIV) has better grip. I tried it from a store. But no way close to D500 or even R5. Sony need to make the camera little bit more taller. I use the RRS QR to add height. It's weird you have to attach a QR for better ergonomics!

Anyway I'm planning to use grip with A1...
I think using an RRS base plate is great and like Sony giving me the option to adjust weight. I can be small and light or heavy, depending on the situation.

Just yesterday we had a very good wedding photographer friend with the Canon r6 + 50/1.2 visiting us. I handled the R6 again for quite some time and cannot agree with the "better grip" mantra.
I use the Sony with the RRS base plates or battery grip and prefer their ergonomics to that of the Canon clearly. Could be years of Sony use now, don't know. My wife thought the same (I found the space between 50/1.2 R and fingers to be extremely small, too.). This tells me, again, it is extremely subjective.

Using the battery grip the A9ii is about 1kg, heavier than the D500 many use without grip. The 250g difference when using a battery grip on the D500 can be mitigated by using a small weight instead of a battery insight the grip in case that really is of importance.
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My left arm is not that weak to not be able to hold that 600GM.

Seriously get yourself in the weight room.
That doesn't help the right hand grip



The correct way to hold and control the camera is to use the left hand.
The right hand is just to there to make camera adjustments and hit the taping the shutter lightly.
And if you do want stronger right hand grip. Hitting the weight is exactly the way to do it. I mean that is only few pounds. A guy lifting weights regularly can surely grip a few pounds just with the finger alone. In reality a simple assisted pull-up is still easily 20 pounds on each hand.
Feb 26, 2021 at 12:08 PM
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p.34 #13A1 Reviews/Video thread
Holger wrote:
First user experiences come (BIF) in:

Just got my A1 today and only had time to a quick visit to the local lake 🙂 My first impression is its way faster than my A9II and more precise and yes eye AF works .. i dont have anything to compare to but on all these shoot the AF was on their eyes. I know its not the most advanced situations but for this it worked with no problems 🙂 first impression is just WOW its fast (and i am a A9II user) The lens was GM600 f4
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonyalpha1/permalink/3558199867641222/


Well done, Dennis! Thank you for sharing!
Feb 26, 2021 at 12:20 PM
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Holger wroteFirst user experiences come (BIF) in:

Just got my A1 today and only had time to a quick visit to the local lake 🙂 My first impression is its way faster than my A9II and more precise and yes eye AF works .. i dont have anything to compare to but on all these shoot the AF was on their eyes. I know its not the most advanced situations but for this it worked with no problems 🙂 first impression is just WOW its fast (and i am a A9II user) The lens was GM600 f4
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonyalpha1/permalink/3558199867641222/
Well done, Dennis! Thank you for sharing!


I am not Dennis, but thanks anyway ;-)
Feb 26, 2021 at 02:08 PM
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p.34 #15A1 Reviews/Video thread
Holger wrote:
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Holger wroteFirst user experiences come (BIF) in:

Just got my A1 today and only had time to a quick visit to the local lake 🙂 My first impression is its way faster than my A9II and more precise and yes eye AF works .. i dont have anything to compare to but on all these shoot the AF was on their eyes. I know its not the most advanced situations but for this it worked with no problems 🙂 first impression is just WOW its fast (and i am a A9II user) The lens was GM600 f4
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonyalpha1/permalink/3558199867641222/
Well done, Dennis! Thank you for sharing!
I am not Dennis, but thanks anyway ;-)

You quoted Dennis.
Feb 26, 2021 at 02:13 PM
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Holger wrote
FJR1 wrote
Holger wroteFirst user experiences come (BIF) in:

Just got my A1 today and only had time to a quick visit to the local lake 🙂 My first impression is its way faster than my A9II and more precise and yes eye AF works .. i dont have anything to compare to but on all these shoot the AF was on their eyes. I know its not the most advanced situations but for this it worked with no problems 🙂 first impression is just WOW its fast (and i am a A9II user) The lens was GM600 f4
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonyalpha1/permalink/3558199867641222/
Well done, Dennis! Thank you for sharing!
I am not Dennis, but thanks anyway ;-)
You quoted Dennis.


I know, but nobody knows if Dennis is reading that at all. That's why I find it weird. But o.k. Why not.
Feb 26, 2021 at 02:20 PM
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Holger wrote:
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Holger wroteFirst user experiences come (BIF) in:

Just got my A1 today and only had time to a quick visit to the local lake 🙂 My first impression is its way faster than my A9II and more precise and yes eye AF works .. i dont have anything to compare to but on all these shoot the AF was on their eyes. I know its not the most advanced situations but for this it worked with no problems 🙂 first impression is just WOW its fast (and i am a A9II user) The lens was GM600 f4
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonyalpha1/permalink/3558199867641222/
Well done, Dennis! Thank you for sharing!
I am not Dennis, but thanks anyway ;-)


Sorry, I should have read your post more carefully. I misread it, thinking you had made the Facebook post. Thanks, anyway, for posting Dennis' post.
Feb 26, 2021 at 07:10 PM
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p.34 #18A1 Reviews/Video thread
Unfortunately it sounds NA SPS members are stuck with the 3/9 delivery.
Feb 26, 2021 at 07:47 PM
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p.34 #19A1 Reviews/Video thread
I can't find a way to directly embed this gif but it is a sequence of frames of a fast diving raptor showing the AF points from A7Info (I think). It seems the system is able to try to get the Eye-AF working some of the time even on a fast BIF dropping a bit erratically. I mean it does't look great but at least the guy claims the shots were all sharp.

https://www.facebook.com/707560652/videos/10157676248180653/
Feb 27, 2021 at 06:34 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
I can't find a way to directly embed this gif but it is a sequence of frames of a fast diving raptor showing the AF points from A7Info (I think). It seems the system is able to try to get the Eye-AF working some of the time even on a fast BIF dropping a bit erratically. I mean it does't look great but at least the guy claims the shots were all sharp.

https://www.facebook.com/707560652/videos/10157676248180653/


He offers raw files for inspection, so it seems according to many recent reviews or experience that AF performance is at least as good as A9ii.
Feb 27, 2021 at 06:55 AM
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