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p.30 #1A1 Reviews/Video thread
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
Feb 23, 2021 at 10:45 AM
p.30 #2A1 Reviews/Video thread
Holger wrote:
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade
Feb 23, 2021 at 12:35 PM
p.30 #3A1 Reviews/Video thread
From that interview:
"We’re still using a magnesium alloy body, but the way the parts are combined makes it more rigid. I’m sure you’d like to know about the sealing, and that’s totally different to the previous models. Compared to previous cameras, the a7S III and A1 have a totally new body structure. I can’t give you details, but we’re using very advanced [sealing] technology with the Alpha 7S III and the Alpha 1."
"We had to develop a new sensor, and we implemented our latest imaging processor as well as a totally new analog to digital conversion method. That’s how we achieved high resolution and high speed. I cannot give you any additional details, I’m sorry!"
"We’ve evolved our autofocus functions, but we still think there’s room to improve. We will continue to strengthen our current technologies, but also will also [continue to develop] object and scene recognition - that will be key."
"We’re still using a magnesium alloy body, but the way the parts are combined makes it more rigid. I’m sure you’d like to know about the sealing, and that’s totally different to the previous models. Compared to previous cameras, the a7S III and A1 have a totally new body structure. I can’t give you details, but we’re using very advanced [sealing] technology with the Alpha 7S III and the Alpha 1."
"We had to develop a new sensor, and we implemented our latest imaging processor as well as a totally new analog to digital conversion method. That’s how we achieved high resolution and high speed. I cannot give you any additional details, I’m sorry!"
"We’ve evolved our autofocus functions, but we still think there’s room to improve. We will continue to strengthen our current technologies, but also will also [continue to develop] object and scene recognition - that will be key."
Feb 23, 2021 at 12:36 PM
p.30 #4A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade
Well, the price of these high res, high fps cameras just go up, up, up right? Nikon D850 -> Canon R5 -> Sony Alpha 1
Holger wrote
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
Well, the price of these high res, high fps cameras just go up, up, up right? Nikon D850 -> Canon R5 -> Sony Alpha 1
Feb 23, 2021 at 12:46 PM
p.30 #5A1 Reviews/Video thread
Stoffer wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade Well, the price of these high res, high fps cameras just go up, up, up right? Nikon D850 -> Canon R5 -> Sony Alpha 1
Well, for many it can replace 2-3 bodies at once. So pair it with a cheap back-up body and the differential in price isn't that severe.
arbitrage wrote
Holger wrote
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
Well, for many it can replace 2-3 bodies at once. So pair it with a cheap back-up body and the differential in price isn't that severe.
Feb 23, 2021 at 12:54 PM
p.30 #6A1 Reviews/Video thread
interesting to see that they have an eye in the media, like watching DPReview content, hope the evasive stance around computational photography is a sign that some interesting stuff might come later.
and on the a1 being the start of a new phase in alpha cameras most of the newer stuff is great but I hope they can incorporate more of the fx3 utilitarian look into the a7 series
and on the a1 being the start of a new phase in alpha cameras most of the newer stuff is great but I hope they can incorporate more of the fx3 utilitarian look into the a7 series
Feb 23, 2021 at 01:07 PM
p.30 #7A1 Reviews/Video thread
I’m still blown away by how well Sony kept the a1 under wraps. I know there were inklings of rumors swirling about, but I think I’m right in saying the world was taken by surprised on January 26.
Feb 23, 2021 at 01:17 PM
p.30 #8A1 Reviews/Video thread
Stoffer wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade Well, the price of these high res, high fps cameras just go up, up, up right? Nikon D850 -> Canon R5 -> Sony Alpha 1
Yes they do...but I think those three cameras each somewhat justify another notch on the price scale. R5 can look on paper to do a lot of what A1 does but people forget about the stacked sensor magic and still being able to push 50MP up to 30FPS.
Anyways, the A1 is actually going to put money in my pocket as I'm looking at selling A7RIV (already sold), A9II and R5. Plus Canon lens and probably finally sell my Nikon lenses. I'll have a good surplus for at least the next big thing Sony wasn't kidding when they said this A1 can do everything. Only issue is having a backup body but I seldom need/use one so will look at something less expensive later this year like a used A9 or new A7IV.
arbitrage wrote
Holger wrote
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
Yes they do...but I think those three cameras each somewhat justify another notch on the price scale. R5 can look on paper to do a lot of what A1 does but people forget about the stacked sensor magic and still being able to push 50MP up to 30FPS.
Anyways, the A1 is actually going to put money in my pocket as I'm looking at selling A7RIV (already sold), A9II and R5. Plus Canon lens and probably finally sell my Nikon lenses. I'll have a good surplus for at least the next big thing
Sony wasn't kidding when they said this A1 can do everything. Only issue is having a backup body but I seldom need/use one so will look at something less expensive later this year like a used A9 or new A7IV.Feb 23, 2021 at 01:39 PM
p.30 #9A1 Reviews/Video thread
ShootPDX wrote:
I’m still blown away by how well Sony kept the a1 under wraps. I know there were inklings of rumors swirling about, but I think I’m right in saying the world was taken by surprised on January 26.
To be fair, there was a set of rumors published in September that was mostly right. You could say that half the things listed were predictable based on previous releases, but since they got the 50MP resolution spot on and correctly said it would be in the $6,000 range, it may have been a legitimate source:
https://petapixel.com/2020/09/24/sony-to-release-a-50mp-sony-a9-with-8k-video-in-early-2021-report/
Perhaps the impressive thing was that we didn't see pre-release photos or the press release far in advance as has been the case with other releases.
I’m still blown away by how well Sony kept the a1 under wraps. I know there were inklings of rumors swirling about, but I think I’m right in saying the world was taken by surprised on January 26.
To be fair, there was a set of rumors published in September that was mostly right. You could say that half the things listed were predictable based on previous releases, but since they got the 50MP resolution spot on and correctly said it would be in the $6,000 range, it may have been a legitimate source:
https://petapixel.com/2020/09/24/sony-to-release-a-50mp-sony-a9-with-8k-video-in-early-2021-report/
Perhaps the impressive thing was that we didn't see pre-release photos or the press release far in advance as has been the case with other releases.
Feb 23, 2021 at 01:39 PM
p.30 #10A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade Well, the price of these high res, high fps cameras just go up, up, up right? Nikon D850 -> Canon R5 -> Sony Alpha 1 Yes they do...but I think those three cameras each somewhat justify another notch on the price scale. R5 can look on paper to do a lot of what A1 does but people forget about the stacked sensor magic and still being able to push 50MP up to 30FPS.
Apparently it doesn't matter to most people, but the maximum shutter speed of the R5 is 1/8000. As someone who likes to use fast glass wide open outdoors this is a big selling point (to me) for the Alpha 1.
Stoffer wrote
arbitrage wrote
Holger wrote
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
Apparently it doesn't matter to most people, but the maximum shutter speed of the R5 is 1/8000. As someone who likes to use fast glass wide open outdoors this is a big selling point (to me) for the Alpha 1.
Feb 23, 2021 at 01:43 PM
p.30 #11A1 Reviews/Video thread
ShootPDX wrote:
I’m still blown away by how well Sony kept the a1 under wraps. I know there were inklings of rumors swirling about, but I think I’m right in saying the world was taken by surprised on January 26.
I hope they're keeping the RX1R iii under wraps as well and we'll hear about that one soon. Not holding my breath, though.
I’m still blown away by how well Sony kept the a1 under wraps. I know there were inklings of rumors swirling about, but I think I’m right in saying the world was taken by surprised on January 26.
I hope they're keeping the RX1R iii under wraps as well and we'll hear about that one soon. Not holding my breath, though.
Feb 23, 2021 at 01:44 PM
p.30 #12A1 Reviews/Video thread
sector99 wrote:
For the serious pros who pay models, pay for travel shoots or get paid by Fortune 500 firms for unmatched content, the added differential quality between modern MF (Fuji GFX) and FF (Including the A1) MF is inherently better.
SONY/NIKON/CANON fanboys notwithstanding, there is in addition to a 100 MP sensor a ≈ 30% resolution gain due to the simple increase in focal length/entrance aperture for say, standard lenses at similar f/stops (50mm to 80mm). Example:
Sony Planar T* FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA (λ[.00005] ÷ D[29.4mm] [@ f/1.7] = 1.7x10-6rad
Fuji GFX 80 f/1.7 (λ[.00005] ÷ D[47.1mm] [@ f/1.7] here bokeh is identical...Show more →
Still not sure what your point is. Yes, we know MF and other larger format sensors can product images that are "better" in many ways. This is not news or even a new debate. But there's more to a camera system than just the sensor size. People choose FF sensors for myriad reasons and there are already a lot of MF sensor options out there that they could choose if they wanted to.
I'm pretty sure photographers and clients understand the differences between FF and MF systems and choose accordingly. And I'm pretty sure you don't know what "Sony knows" about its market. As I said before, Sony could probably launch a MF body pretty fast if it wanted to since it already has the sensor tech and fabrication capabilities, not to mention the lens manufacturing capabilities. That it has chosen not to perhaps suggests it knows something about that market that you don't?!
Were you here in 2019 banging on about how the A7R4 was overhyped and MF was better? Or the Canon R5 last year? Or maybe the Canon 5DSr back in 2016? Clearly there's a market for high-resolution FF sensor cameras, and clearly there's always been a market for $6K+ high speed FF professional camera bodies -- markets you don't seem to (or want to) consider.
For the serious pros who pay models, pay for travel shoots or get paid by Fortune 500 firms for unmatched content, the added differential quality between modern MF (Fuji GFX) and FF (Including the A1) MF is inherently better.
SONY/NIKON/CANON fanboys notwithstanding, there is in addition to a 100 MP sensor a ≈ 30% resolution gain due to the simple increase in focal length/entrance aperture for say, standard lenses at similar f/stops (50mm to 80mm). Example:
Sony Planar T* FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA (λ[.00005] ÷ D[29.4mm] [@ f/1.7] = 1.7x10-6rad
Fuji GFX 80 f/1.7 (λ[.00005] ÷ D[47.1mm] [@ f/1.7] here bokeh is identical...Show more →
Still not sure what your point is. Yes, we know MF and other larger format sensors can product images that are "better" in many ways. This is not news or even a new debate. But there's more to a camera system than just the sensor size. People choose FF sensors for myriad reasons and there are already a lot of MF sensor options out there that they could choose if they wanted to.
I'm pretty sure photographers and clients understand the differences between FF and MF systems and choose accordingly. And I'm pretty sure you don't know what "Sony knows" about its market. As I said before, Sony could probably launch a MF body pretty fast if it wanted to since it already has the sensor tech and fabrication capabilities, not to mention the lens manufacturing capabilities. That it has chosen not to perhaps suggests it knows something about that market that you don't?!
Were you here in 2019 banging on about how the A7R4 was overhyped and MF was better? Or the Canon R5 last year? Or maybe the Canon 5DSr back in 2016? Clearly there's a market for high-resolution FF sensor cameras, and clearly there's always been a market for $6K+ high speed FF professional camera bodies -- markets you don't seem to (or want to) consider.
Feb 23, 2021 at 02:39 PM
p.30 #13A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade Well, the price of these high res, high fps cameras just go up, up, up right? Nikon D850 -> Canon R5 -> Sony Alpha 1 Yes they do...but I think those three cameras each somewhat justify another notch on the price scale. R5 can look on paper to do a lot of what A1 does but people forget about the stacked sensor magic and still being able to push 50MP up to 30FPS.
Anyways, the A1 is actually going to put money in my pocket as I'm looking at selling A7RIV (already sold), A9II and R5. Plus Canon lens and probably finally sell my Nikon lenses. I'll have a good surplus for at least the next big thing Sony wasn't kidding when they said this A1...Show more →
"R5 can look on paper to do a lot of what A1 does but people forget about the stacked sensor magic and still being able to push 50MP up to 30FPS."
There are more than a few differences making the A1 much more appealing (and, unfortunately, more expensive).
Stoffer wrote
arbitrage wrote
Holger wrote
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
Anyways, the A1 is actually going to put money in my pocket as I'm looking at selling A7RIV (already sold), A9II and R5. Plus Canon lens and probably finally sell my Nikon lenses. I'll have a good surplus for at least the next big thing
Sony wasn't kidding when they said this A1...Show more →"R5 can look on paper to do a lot of what A1 does but people forget about the stacked sensor magic and still being able to push 50MP up to 30FPS."
There are more than a few differences making the A1 much more appealing (and, unfortunately, more expensive).
Feb 23, 2021 at 04:01 PM
p.30 #14A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
I'm not sure I can afford the next decade
Get into dental implants, that is where the money is. Just ask me.
I'm not sure I can afford the next decade
Get into dental implants, that is where the money is. Just ask me.
Feb 23, 2021 at 09:41 PM
p.30 #16A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10If this is just the first step, I'm not sure I can afford the next decade Well, the price of these high res, high fps cameras just go up, up, up right? Nikon D850 -> Canon R5 -> Sony Alpha 1 Yes they do...but I think those three cameras each somewhat justify another notch on the price scale. R5 can look on paper to do a lot of what A1 does but people forget about the stacked sensor magic and still being able to push 50MP up to 30FPS.
Anyways, the A1 is actually going to put money in my pocket as I'm looking at selling A7RIV (already sold), A9II and R5. Plus Canon lens and probably finally sell my Nikon lenses. I'll have a good surplus for at least the next big thing Sony wasn't kidding when they said this A1...Show more →
I may have Riv sold but my friend whose buying for his wedding photographer daughter can't decide if she needs my a9 or the Riv. I told him a package deal could be easily worked out. And the backup camera. Well over all the years I've carried one I've never needed it. My justification after realizing that the odds of abject body failure are so small was for another lens bodied up for what-if environmental shots. Nowadays I just have a small Rok in the pocket. The FE28-60 is already here sitting in a corner awaiting its new pocket role.
Stoffer wrote
arbitrage wrote
Holger wrote
Interview with Sony's Masaaki Oshima - "The Alpha 1 is the first step towards the next decade"https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/9195902169/interview-sony-s-masaaki-oshima-the-alpha-1-is-the-first-step-towards-the-next-decade?fbclid=IwAR14dNk4HMPQmqSMKWuRMJxX23SOaAxxqvfO9LO_PSHbtr_Sggic6WIBC10
Anyways, the A1 is actually going to put money in my pocket as I'm looking at selling A7RIV (already sold), A9II and R5. Plus Canon lens and probably finally sell my Nikon lenses. I'll have a good surplus for at least the next big thing
Sony wasn't kidding when they said this A1...Show more →I may have Riv sold but my friend whose buying for his wedding photographer daughter can't decide if she needs my a9 or the Riv. I told him a package deal could be easily worked out. And the backup camera. Well over all the years I've carried one I've never needed it. My justification after realizing that the odds of abject body failure are so small was for another lens bodied up for what-if environmental shots. Nowadays I just have a small Rok in the pocket. The FE28-60 is already here sitting in a corner awaiting its new pocket role.
Feb 24, 2021 at 01:49 AM
p.30 #17A1 Reviews/Video thread
danwu wrote:
All from this review:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416
That's one of the most complete reviews I've ever seen, you're even learning some things there.
I see it's from Taiwan.
All from this review:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416
That's one of the most complete reviews I've ever seen, you're even learning some things there.
I see it's from Taiwan.
Feb 24, 2021 at 03:20 AM
p.30 #18A1 Reviews/Video thread
danwu wrote:
More BEAF video
https://youtu.be/c0LctDo6arc
https://youtu.be/I8pDERPLYxo
https://youtu.be/1nCrT0qOTVI
https://youtu.be/JSileX3mwJU
https://youtu.be/xqO6knOBmNY
Sure looks like BEAF needs more polish.
All from this review:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416
This link sends me to a site map.
More BEAF video
https://youtu.be/c0LctDo6arc
https://youtu.be/I8pDERPLYxo
https://youtu.be/1nCrT0qOTVI
https://youtu.be/JSileX3mwJU
https://youtu.be/xqO6knOBmNY
Sure looks like BEAF needs more polish.
All from this review:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416
This link sends me to a site map.
Feb 24, 2021 at 04:56 AM
p.30 #19A1 Reviews/Video thread
Daran wrote:
All from this review:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416
This link sends me to a site map.
Ah, the FM forum interfered. C&P works.
All from this review:
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416
This link sends me to a site map.
Ah, the FM forum interfered. C&P works.
Feb 24, 2021 at 04:57 AM
p.30 #20A1 Reviews/Video thread
Daran wrote:
https://youtu.be/c0LctDo6arc
https://youtu.be/I8pDERPLYxo
https://youtu.be/1nCrT0qOTVI
https://youtu.be/JSileX3mwJU
https://youtu.be/xqO6knOBmNYSure looks like BEAF needs more polish.
https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416This link sends me to a site map.
I am not sure, some of the footage looked like they were from a TV screen.
danwu wrote
More BEAF videohttps://youtu.be/c0LctDo6arc
https://youtu.be/I8pDERPLYxo
https://youtu.be/1nCrT0qOTVI
https://youtu.be/JSileX3mwJU
https://youtu.be/xqO6knOBmNY
Earlier quote
All from this review:https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=254&t=6311416
I am not sure, some of the footage looked like they were from a TV screen.
Feb 24, 2021 at 05:11 AM