p.4 #1 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
@GMPhotography oh dear G O D... hope they had insurance
Closest I got to professional sports was roller derby. Guess the rules are different there because the opportunities for injury from falling are a bit higher. Also probably not as much cash involved, to be honest.
p.4 #2 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
GMPhotography wrote:
Yes there is a line you must stay behind for sure and it is only press allowed. The second part happens often . I was runnedover by Reggie Miller back in the day. Thanks God he was not truck size but a compact man. . Great player though
Even in Pro football you see press shooters get ruined over and they can move out of the way or at least try. Ive known a few guys that ruined there gear
This year with the NBA it was played in a bubble because of Covid so I really did not see any shooters on the floor but maybe I missed it....Show more →
There was also the famous incident where a frustrated Dennis Rodman kicked a camera man in the junk...tough choice between that and ruined gear!
p.4 #3 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
My war story: I was shooting pee-wee flag football and my attention was focused on the "action" on the other side of the field. I didn't see a kid barreling at me until it was too late. Got me right in the jewels with that little helmet, and I went down with a death-grip on the camera, still shooting. The shutter shredded on impact but everything else was okay. The kid had been running from a wasp and couldn't see anything through his tears.
On topic: If they can pull off another crowd-pleaser like the 24, this will be exciting.
p.4 #5 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
I'm really wondering if Sony has something up their sleeve on this one... On paper, 35mm f1.4 will not excite anyone nowadays... so will it be another one but in a really refined iteration or will there be some killer feature in it like half the size/weight of ZA (I'm dreaming I know, I don't think a 35mm lens can be made significantly smaller) ...
On the other hand, inclusion of all the latest "goodies" from GM lenses like 12-24 or 135 (resolution, coatings/flare resistance, AF motors) can be enough to make this lens irresistible ... I'm seriously starting to consider the future of my Sigma ...
p.4 #6 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
scalanc2 wrote:
Then, I was under the impression that 1.2 vs 1.4 is closer to half stops than one third.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Regarding the f/stop difference between f/1.2 and f/1.4, one could make the case for either 1/3 or 1/2 stops.
It's all a bit academic since not only are the stated values heavily rounded by the manufacturer, but they're also quoted for infinity focus only. Any internal focus lens will change the focal length (and hence aperture) when focusing closer. All you can really say about an f/1.2 lens is that it's probably faster than an f/1.4 lens.
I'd really like to see someone do a mass test and report actual focal lengths and maximum apertures when focused at a realistic distance (whilst some people may use a 35/1.4 for astrophotography, but a lot of people will be shooting portraits etc. at considerably closer distances).
p.4 #7 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
Not to mention that in terms of light gathering, Sony is the best at T/#. Several lenses have the same aperture and transmission values.
And bokeh is often enough more a matter of SA correction than anything. I see no advantage to a f/1.2 worth the added size, coat, and weight. Although, the thought of Sony making an f/1.2 with a t/1.3-1.5 would really be special, and pretty much showing off.
Matt Grum wrote:
It's all a bit academic since not only are the stated values heavily rounded by the manufacturer, but they're also quoted for infinity focus only. Any internal focus lens will change the focal length (and hence aperture) when focusing closer. All you can really say about an f/1.2 lens is that it's probably faster than an f/1.4 lens.
I'd really like to see someone do a mass test and report actual focal lengths and maximum apertures when focused at a realistic distance (whilst some people may use a 35/1.4 for astrophotography, but a lot of people will be shooting portraits etc. at considerably closer distances).
p.4 #9 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Not to be a party pooper, but I’d be perfectly happy with a superb 35 1.7 or f2.
And the FE 35 1.8 doesn’t qualify... very curious to see how large this new GM will be.
If it’s good enough rendering wise and about the size of the GM 24, I can see myself selling several of my other 35mm’s.
Think that ship has sailed, to be honest. Aside from the CA and rendering the 35 1.8 FE is a truly excellent lens to the point where I'd probably recommend it over the 35 GM for anyone interested in documentary or journalistic work. With the GM now coming out, the void possibly filled by a 35 G wouldn't even be hobbyists/enthusiasts. I'm certain a lot of that gap will be filled by the Sigma 35 1.2 (for those who want uncompromising image quality), the 1.8 FE (those who want uncompromising functionality and are okay with the output image), the GM (mix of the former two criteria), and now Samyang's option (best value for money). A 35/40 1.8 G would only be purchased by those who want the GM at 1.8 instead, and I just don't see where the profit motive would be for Sony.
I'm right there with you on the size—but if this lens is too big and I want a stellar smallish 35... guess I'm switching to Nikon . To be clear, I'd rather have a 35/40G instead of a GM for exactly the same reason you might. I just don't find it very likely.
p.4 #10 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
JVan_02 wrote:
Think that ship has sailed, to be honest. Aside from the CA and rendering the 35 1.8 FE is a truly excellent lens to the point where I'd probably recommend it over the 35 GM for anyone interested in documentary or journalistic work. With the GM now coming out, the void possibly filled by a 35 G wouldn't even be hobbyists/enthusiasts. I'm certain a lot of that gap will be filled by the Sigma 35 1.2 (for those who want uncompromising image quality), the 1.8 FE (those who want uncompromising functionality and are okay with the output image), the GM (mix of the former two criteria), and now Samyang's option (best value for money). A 35/40 1.8 G would only be purchased by those who want the GM at 1.8 instead, and I just don't see where the profit motive would be for Sony.
I'm right there with you on the size—but if this lens is too big and I want a stellar smallish 35... guess I'm switching to Nikon . To be clear, I'd rather have a 35/40G instead of a GM for exactly the same reason you might. I just don't find it very likely. ...Show more →
Oh yeah, it’s not happening. But I would love a line of premium moderately fast compact lenses—28/35/50/85 f2’s and a 200/4.
p.4 #11 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Oh yeah, it’s not happening. But I would love a line of premium moderately fast compact lenses—28/35/50/85 f2’s and a 200/4.
I'd buy every one if they were AF. Moderately sized, moderately fast, optically superlative. I wouldn't care if they were heavy-ish and expensive, I'd save my pennies. If they could take my Loxia 25 and 85 and make them AF...
p.4 #12 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
@nehemiahphoto I mean, to be fair you almost have that in the Batis line. Personally, my only regrets with the 40 are the low light performance and the size—and the former is the main reason I'm considering a replacement. I didn't grow up where I'm living now so I didn't think about it when purchasing, but the sun goes down before 14:00 today... and every other day until sometime in March .
If you live in an area with more consistent lighting for more of the year I'd give it a strong recommendation if you can find it on sale as I think it's overpriced considering the quirks—but the output is excellent.
p.4 #13 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
May be you are right but do not forget that Tamron went on the market with some 2.8 lenses.
They are cheap and quite good in quality.
But I think they are not a great success.
Most of the people requires zoom lenses and those oriented on fixed focals usually requires top level un compromised lenses.
p.4 #14 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
I find it amazing that today people still yearn for that Sonnar RX1 lens but in e-mount ...
And Sony has shown it's capable of providing something very similar (if not better) but in 24mm focal length. I really wonder why they chose to go the non-G route with FE 35mm f1.8, I guess we are only a vocal minority in the end...
p.4 #15 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
@j4nu I feel like the window of opportunity closed on a lot of those lenses with the Batis line, honestly. To be clear, I think the 20 G and 24 GM are better than their Batis line counterparts when considered as a whole—what I mean is if we're thinking about profit potential, the premium medium speed market is kind of covered. If we see anything like the 20 G again, I think it'll be years.
p.4 #16 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
I don't need speed for my my type of shooting, and the Tamron 35/2.8 is the sharpest of the 35's I've tried. Never compared it to the Sigma 35/1.2 as is my mind it's a different category of lens.
But I can't believe how sharp the Tamron is across the frame at pretty much all apertures. Other than the slowish focusing, it's a real bargain.
I sold my Batis 40 after picking up the Tamron. While the Tamron isn't small, it's smaller than the Batis.
-Tim
scalanc2 wrote:
May be you are right but do not forget that Tamron went on the market with some 2.8 lenses.
They are cheap and quite good in quality.
But I think they are not a great success.
Most of the people requires zoom lenses and those oriented on fixed focals usually requires top level un compromised lenses.
p.4 #17 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
scalanc2 wrote:
May be you are right but do not forget that Tamron went on the market with some 2.8 lenses.
They are cheap and quite good in quality.
But I think they are not a great success.
Most of the people requires zoom lenses and those oriented on fixed focals usually requires top level un compromised lenses.
I think the biggest issue here isn't the nominal aperture, the price, or the build. These are all fine. The two chief issues with these lenses are the focusing motors/speed and the the bloated chassis—the latter of which is even worse with the 40... but a key difference between the 40 and say the 35 2.8 is that the 40 has an excellent focus motor.
p.4 #18 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
JVan_02 wrote:
@j4nu@ I feel like the window of opportunity closed on a lot of those lenses with the Batis line, honestly. To be clear, I think the 20 G and 24 GM are better than their Batis line counterparts when considered as a whole—what I mean is if we're thinking about profit potential, the premium medium speed market is kind of covered. If we see anything like the 20 G again, I think it'll be years.
Yes, but Batis 40 is closer to Sony FE 35 than Sonnar RX1...
To me 24GM is the best match (IQ, handling, size, weight - Sigma 85 dg dn gets pretty close too) for A7 bodies, so if we could get something similar for 35mm I'd jump in immediately. While I Love the output of the Sigma, I always notice the difference when I change the lens to something else ...
I agree that we missed our chance for premium ~f2 compact-ish lens series, but others are doing it (Nikon, Leica?) .
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p.4 #19 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
j4nu wrote:
Yes, but Batis 40 is closer to Sony FE 35 than Sonnar RX1...
To me 24GM is the best match (IQ, handling, size, weight - Sigma 85 dg dn gets pretty close too) for A7 bodies, so if we could get something similar for 35mm I'd jump in immediately. While I Love the output of the Sigma, I always notice the difference when I change the lens to something else ...
I agree that we missed our chance for premium ~f2 compact-ish lens series, but others are doing it (Nikon, Leica?) .
I think Sony could develop a high quality f/1.8 lens series. They have a good start with the 20 f/1.8 G. It would be easy to image a really nice 28 f/1.8 G and that would fill a hole in the lineup. If they added to that a 45 f/1.8G, a 75 f/1.8G, (they already have the 90 f/2.8G macro), just those five lenses would make a really nice G series of lenses and would complement well the 24 f/1.4 GM, (the rumored ) 35 f/1.4 GM, 50 f/1.4 ZA, 85 f/1.4 GM, and 135 f/1.8 GM (here we might expect a 50 f/1.2 or f/1.4 GM as well). I think those two lens series would be great and complement each other well. So, I think we have reason to hope that the ship hasn't sailed on that high quality f/1.8 lens series from Sony.
p.4 #20 · Pre-order: Sony FE 35mm f/1.4 GM ($1,399)
Steve Spencer wrote:
I think Sony could develop a high quality f/1.8 lens series. They have a good start with the 20 f/1.8 G. It would be easy to image a really nice 28 f/1.8 G and that would fill a hole in the lineup. If they added to that a 45 f/1.8G, a 75 f/1.8G, (they already have the 90 f/2.8G macro), just those five lenses would make a really nice G series of lenses and would complement well the 24 f/1.4 GM, (the rumored ) 35 f/1.4 GM, 50 f/1.4 ZA, 85 f/1.4 GM, and 135 f/1.8 GM (here we might expect a 50 f/1.2 or f/1.4 GM as well). I think those two lens series would be great and complement each other well. So, I think we have reason to hope that the ship hasn't sailed on that high quality f/1.8 lens series from Sony....Show more →
... I'm seriously starting to consider the future of my Sigma 
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