p.4 #1 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
The notorious one is canon 50mm f0.95. It couldn’t fit on the tap on Sony because the belly. The megadpt seems to have the same fate.
I’m just curious to see if the techart solved the problem this time around.
LarsHP wrote:
I have not heard of other lenses that won't fit than the TTArtisans 50mm f/0.95. For reference, the similarly spec'ed Zhong Yi will mount, the 7Artisans 75mm f/1.2 too, Voigtländer Nokton 50mm f/1.2 Asph etc. etc.
However, it appears more universal to say that most Nikon F to Leica M adapters with aperture control mechanism won't fit.
p.4 #4 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LarsHP wrote:
Okay, then we have at least two lenses that won't fit. That said, that Canon isn't a M mount lens.
Many of those Canon have been converted to M-mount and it's one of those lenses that I wish I could mount onto smart adapters to gain AF. And the whole idea of these adapters are that since Leica M is adaptable to pretty much all lenses out there except mirrorless ones, it opens up the AF for all the manual lenses. Thus, it's nice to compile a list of what works and what doesn't.
The Canon lens body diameter is way too large with the adapter's belly sticking out at the bottom. I guess it's the same case with the TTArtisan's 0.95 lens.
Hopefully anyone with the Techart version can try out with larger lenses and see if there's any limitation.
I just got the MTZ11... even though I haven't gotten my Z7II yet. The Canon is for sure out of question already. Anyone with the Techart want to do a straight trade so I can test it out?
p.4 #5 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
I know that some Canon 50mm f/0.95 "dream" lenses have been converted to M mount. My point was that it's not an M mount lens as such.
Regarding compability with the Techart adapter, I feel confident that you will have much better chance fitting those specific 50mm f/0.95 lenses on it, since it doesn't have that protruding case around the mount ring.
The catch seems to be that, while you may mount the lens, it's another story how it will perform in terms of autofocus. If the lens isn't properly sharp wide open, both the human eye and the AF mechanism in the camera will struggle to determine where focus is. This will most likely lead to focus hunting or/and bad focus.
I have read a user report saying that the AF didn't work well on the Zeiss Sonnar 50mm f/1.5 at longer distances, but worked well with other lenses. That Sonnar is famous for its bokeh, but also known to be soft wide open. Without being rude to the Canon lens, I get the feeling that sharpness wide open isn't its strong point, so I assume you will have the same problem as with that lens - if not worse.
If you read the posts from @megadap above, this general issue is confirmed. Personally, I have given up the idea of using those f/0.95 lenses with the autofocus adapter even though in theory, it would be a great idea to have AF with them.
p.4 #6 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LarsHP wrote:
I know that some Canon 50mm f/0.95 "dream" lenses have been converted to M mount. My point was that it's not an M mount lens as such.
Regarding compability with the Techart adapter, I feel confident that you will have much better chance fitting those specific 50mm f/0.95 lenses on it, since it doesn't have that protruding case around the mount ring.
The catch seems to be that, while you may mount the lens, it's another story how it will perform in terms of autofocus. If the lens isn't properly sharp wide open, both the human eye and the AF mechanism in the camera will struggle to determine where focus is. This will most likely lead to focus hunting or/and bad focus.
I have read a user report saying that the AF didn't work well on the Zeiss Sonnar 50mm f/1.5 at longer distances, but worked well with other lenses. That Sonnar is famous for its bokeh, but also known to be soft wide open. Without being rude to the Canon lens, I get the feeling that sharpness wide open isn't its strong point, so I assume you will have the same problem as with that lens - if not worse.
If you read the posts from @megadap@ above, this general issue is confirmed. Personally, I have given up the idea of using those f/0.95 lenses with the autofocus adapter even though in theory, it would be a great idea to have AF with them. ...Show more →
Yes or no but my experience with the Mitakon 50/0.95 is really enjoyable
p.4 #7 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
you guys and your f/0.95 lenses... i find it disturbing when only one eye is in focus and the subject's FACE is fading into bokeh.
i like my 40mm f/1.2 and am hoping one of these autofocus adapters will help me get eyes info focus quicker at f/1.2. it happens to be sharp and so i think it is a good candidate.
i also have a Nikon 300mm f/4.5 ED-IF i'm curious how it would do. setting the camera to expect a 300mm lens makes for excellent stabilization, but it is still decent at 135mm. internally, the moving elements don't seem to travel very far, but would this adapter even work with it?
if so... that would be fantastic
i looked into the TZM-01 as techart has had adapters out for years, but there seem to be a lot of issues/complaints. not yet decided
I use this adapter with Zeiss 55/1.4 Contarex. The adapter is not too fat for Megadap. It is the release lever on Megadap that prevent the adapter from sitting properly in the mount. No problem with Techart M to E mount adapter.
One wish for me for firmware would be support for exif record for 55mm and 58mm focal length, especially 58mm. Granted there are not that many 58mm lenses, only 4 that I know of but Noct Nikkor 58/1.2 is one of those iconic Nikon lenses (and Minolta 58/1.2 certainly has its own follower)
Both work really well with Megadap otherwise.
p.4 #9 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
doblebo wrote:
you guys and your f/0.95 lenses... i find it disturbing when only one eye is in focus and the subject's FACE is fading into bokeh.
i like my 40mm f/1.2 and am hoping one of these autofocus adapters will help me get eyes info focus quicker at f/1.2. it happens to be sharp and so i think it is a good candidate.
.95 lens will give you very nice isolation for full body shot and with the right background, no f1.2 or f1.4 lenses (with similar focal length) can quite achieve this though. But I agree that .95 lens is not my favourite lenses for close focus or tight portrait shots usually.
p.4 #11 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
@ megadap:
Could you please tell the engineers at Megadap / Gabale, that it is very annoying that the adapter will move its focus position after a while without any reason?
What happens is that I will first set the focus correctly and then after a while it just "decides" that it should go back to the original position before the set AF. This happens when the camera is idle: I haven't taken an image or done a new AF for a minute or so.
I have been frustrated about this a while and after seeing that when doing the calibration tool procedure, the standby timer in the camera (in menu C3) should be set to 10 minutes. I have now set it to infinity, but the adapter still resets itself / moves the AF mechanism after a while.
EDIT: I have tried to change the settings in the adapter using the function @ f/51 = "adapter parks at the last focus spot", but that makes no difference.
p.4 #12 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
Today the above mentioned bug took another step in the wrong direction:
The MTZ11 refocused several times during exposure! It was of course an exposure of a few seconds (the 2 to 4 second range) when this happened, but this is beyond my understanding. I am leaning towards returning the adapter if this continues.
p.4 #13 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
I bring back this thread to live.
I ordered this one and Z6 for a few reasons:
can focus closer than 0.7M for M lenses,
can take advantage of eye/face AF for low angle LCD shooting without slowness of Manual focus.
However, only after a half day of use, I am gonna return it. This is not a good fit for me at all.
1. laud AF, it is so laud that my wife and kids get annoyed to turn away.
2. compatibility, Most of my OEM or premium adapter are not usable on it. OEM R to M doesn;t work, Novoflex G to M doesnt work. TTastisan 50mm doesnt work. Even summilux 50mm ASPH doesn't work once the adapter retract inside, I can't manual focus. And the adapter can random decide to retract inside, and once its inside, I can't even remove my Lens off it, because many M glasses at infinity, back elements will stick out more to interfere with Z6 inside frame, and you can't turn. So far, I notice, 50lux, 21 SEM can't be removed in that situation, (I don't want try more) you have to focus close to trick adapter move out to remove the lens. A PITA.
3. Vertical (portrait orientation) focus is very poor compare to landscape hold. This is both a Nikon thing and adapter thing here. because all MILC camera only have focus detection one way than cross line. but weak communication of adapter is also to blame.
4. Focus accuracy. it tend to back focus even in AFS. I am puzzled here as this shouldn't happen with contrast detection focus though I believe Nikon might use PDAF in combine with CDAF for focusing. So there might be some communication error here.
5. random focus sometime during auto power off and on. Maybe I should give it another try, it gives option to park the adapter at infinity, close and as before. I haven't tried that. but do it every time before on or off will be a no go to me.
I am glad this is a BH purchase that I can simply return it.
BTW, After left Z for a while, I have some new perspective on this camera. Z6 is so nice to feel in hand, EVF is so OVF like. IQ is great, color is wonderful. I feel right at home. However, after use a few others offers recently, I have to say Nikon have too much sxxt in their menu and you can't program certain button to do things your way. if you want customers from other camp, you give them the option to do their ways. Please.
It is a tool that just deliver but not a fun one, I understand mostly as they have to cover wider user base but the camera is so complicated to use and understand for random users. I think they all need a restaurant menu like to customize menu system, you only load what you need. The camera is so clustered with tons of useless features. (some may useful for once a lifetime but so confusing to see them all there)
I think Nikon need a lessen or two from Leica and sigma to know how to build something fun to use. Off topic.
p.4 #14 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
While I am not fully satisfied with the Megadap MTZ11, I feel sorry for this guy who bought the Techart TZM-01:
He is in real trouble after putting the TZM-01 on this camera with the CV 40/1.2 lens. The adapter doesn't work, and he can't unmount the lens or adapter! They are stuck on the camera, so the camera is bricked as it is ...
p.4 #15 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LarsHP wrote:
While I am not fully satisfied with the Megadap MTZ11, I feel sorry for this guy who bought the Techart TZM-01:
He is in real trouble after putting the TZM-01 on this camera with the CV 40/1.2 lens. The adapter doesn't work, and he can't unmount the lens or adapter! They are stuck on the camera, so the camera is bricked as it is ...
My main issues with all these adapter are they are not ready for a product stage yet and they dont take enough time to refine their product to make it sellable but hurry to market. and then, no after sell support, not be able to solve the problem their product have.
For me, this one is way slower AF than my manual focus, and it is laud with many problems, what is the point?
p.4 #16 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LarsHP wrote:
Today the above mentioned bug took another step in the wrong direction:
The MTZ11 refocused several times during exposure! It was of course an exposure of a few seconds (the 2 to 4 second range) when this happened, but this is beyond my understanding. I am leaning towards returning the adapter if this continues.
Hey Lars,
Shoot me an email if possible. [email protected].
Cant PM you direct as a new member.
p.4 #19 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
I have now received a beta firmware for the MTZ11 by email from Megadap which is supposed to fix the issue I had with the adapter moving the focusing mechanism without notice when the adapter had been idle for about 70 seconds ... aaaaaand ... it did fix the issue!
p.4 #20 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
I have for some time had the feeling that the IBIS in my Z6 wasn't as effective as I remember it. Yesterday evening I did a test with / without IBIS engaged:
First with FTZ adapter and my 180mm lens (non-CPU lens info entered in menu). Huge difference between IBIS on/off. Obviously the IBIS is working effectively here.
Then with the MTZ11 and my 90mm (focal length set with the procedure in the MTZ11 manual). Not much difference even though there is a slight improvement when IBIS is on.
Then with 90mm and Gabale LM-Z "dumb" adapter (non-CPU lens info entered in menu). Again, very obvious effect from the work of the IBIS.
I also remember a few days ago that I struggled with camera shake with my 15mm when using the MTZ11. I needed 1/30s or faster to avoid shake. This seemed odd.
When I did a quick test with my 50mm last night, the IBIS worked fine with the MTZ11.
So, even though I did the procedure for setting focal length with the MTZ11, and all image files taken with the MTZ11 show the correct focal length. My conclusion is that:
IBIS works as if it's a 50mm lens no matter which lens is mounted and what focal length is set and recorded in EXIF data. This behavior is also visible in the viewfinder, not only when judging the images.
Without being an engineer, my understanding right now is that the MTZ11 manages to communicate the focal length to the camera, but the IBIS still "doesn't get the message" so to speak.
I have described my findings to Megadap in email and hope they will sort it out. They seem to be working on improving the firmware already, and they respond to my emails, so there is still hope for the MTZ11.
The Canon is for sure out of question already. Anyone with the Techart want to do a straight trade so I can test it out? 