p.6 #2 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
keithf wrote:
Thanks Lars, I installed went back to v1.3.1 yesterday. It's better for my Voigtlander 50 f1.2.
I experienced consistently an extreme amount of hunting taking simple portraits with the Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 using MTZ11 firmware v.2.0 that I also had to switch back to firmware version 1.3.1. I found that in AF-C mode, dynamic area AF or Auto Area AF (with eye detect) and firmware 2.0, it became nearly unusable - hunting for focus for 5 seconds or more before taking a shot!!! By that time I would have taken several perfect shots with manual focus.
Firmware 1.3.1 is much more reliable. At least we have reasonably good working firmware and I do hope they continue to improve with future updates.
p.6 #3 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
To me correct EXIF and proper IBIS communication with the camera is more important than a somewhat usable AF functionality. In other words, I could live with a smart adapter that communicated seamlessly with the camera, but had no autofocus at all. That said, I certainly hope that the hunting issue gets fixed soon in a firmware update.
I received my Z6 from Kolari Vision a week ago, but the IBIS was disengaged when I got it, so I had to send it back. When trying the v2.0 firmware, I found myself using a combination of zooming in in the viewfinder and then let the adapter AF. This made me sure that I got proper focus. In other words, I didn't trust the AF confirmation of the adapter.
p.6 #4 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
Anyone got the Techart TZM-01 and can comment on performance? Haven't found any good reviews in English. Very curious how it compares with LM-EA7 (for Sony), since that is an adapter I have experience with (on A7Riii).
p.6 #5 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LesserBabkaX wrote:
Anyone got the Techart TZM-01 and can comment on performance? Haven't found any good reviews in English. Very curious how it compares with LM-EA7 (for Sony), since that is an adapter I have experience with (on A7Riii).
There were some reviews of the TZM-01 after it was released originally, but then it apparently was withdrawn until they fixed the mechanical issue where the lens would be locked to the camera with the adapter. I haven't seen any reviews after they re-released the TZM-01, if I recall correctly.
p.6 #7 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
Fotodiox has made a competing product to Megadap TMZ11 and Techart TZM-01: Fotodiox Pro Pronto (LM-NKZ-PRN).
At first, I thought it may be a rebranded Techart TZM-01, but after seeing the video, it is obvious that this is another product - including the Fn-button feature.
Price is $300 (plus shipping if it's outside the US.).
p.6 #8 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LesserBabkaX wrote:
Anyone got the Techart TZM-01 and can comment on performance? Haven't found any good reviews in English. Very curious how it compares with LM-EA7 (for Sony), since that is an adapter I have experience with (on A7Riii).
I've got it and comparing to LM-EA7, I'd think they are about the same. Although I was using the EA7 with A9, and the AF system on the Sony is vastly better than my Z6II.
Haven't encountered any problem with it.
Something I did like... and the reason why I picked the Techart over the Megadap was the flush motor at the bottom.
I'm adapting mostly fat fast lenses, and the "bump" coming out at the bottom on the Megadap, including the just-announced Fotodiox just present nothing but potential problem for me. But that's just my case and the lenses I'm adapting to... I have heard good things on both Techart and Megadap, and speed-wise the Techart is slightly faster but it might have to do with the shorter travel.
Personally, I was quite happy with the Techart so far.
p.6 #9 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
azenis wrote:
I've got it and comparing to LM-EA7, I'd think they are about the same. Although I was using the EA7 with A9, and the AF system on the Sony is vastly better than my Z6II.
Haven't encountered any problem with it.
Something I did like... and the reason why I picked the Techart over the Megadap was the flush motor at the bottom.
I'm adapting mostly fat fast lenses, and the "bump" coming out at the bottom on the Megadap, including the just-announced Fotodiox just present nothing but potential problem for me. But that's just my case and the lenses I'm adapting to... I have heard good things on both Techart and Megadap, and speed-wise the Techart is slightly faster but it might have to do with the shorter travel.
Personally, I was quite happy with the Techart so far....Show more →
How is the build of the TZM-01? Does it wobble with heavier lenses? That is a major concern for me, and I am particularly suspicious about it because the first gen. Techart for Sony had this issue. (IIRC, Richard Wong or some other reviewer on YouTube also mentioned that the TZM-01 was wobbling in his review.)
p.6 #10 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LarsHP wrote:
How is the build of the TZM-01? Does it wobble with heavier lenses? That is a major concern for me, and I am particularly suspicious about it because the first gen. Techart for Sony had this issue. (IIRC, Richard Wong or some other reviewer on YouTube also mentioned that the TZM-01 was wobbling in his review.)
I haven't noticed any wobbling, and from a mechanical perspective, it seems more robust than the EA7. And this is coming from using it with some heavy fast lenses. I have compared it side-to-side with the Megadap, and I think their build quality are about the same, if not a bit cleaner on the Techart side as it decided to put the USB port on the cap instead of building it in.
And as I said, when comparing side-to-side, I couldn't notice much of a difference between them on the lenses that I chose to test (all 50mm lenses). Thus, ultimately, the flush front won for my usage. But I honestly don't think one could go wrong with either of them if sticking only with native M lenses.
p.6 #11 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
Did anyone here with the Techart TZM-01 check if IBIS is working properly?
What I am thinking of here is if the IBIS works equally effective with super wide (10-18mm) and telephoto (90 or 135mm) lenses as with a normal lens (50mm).
After getting my Z6 back from service, I have now checked the Megadap MTZ11 with v2.0 firmware, and it still doesn't communicate focal length to the IBIS (even though EXIF data is correct). IBIS seems to be fixed at 50mm, so lenses significantly longer or shorter will perform poorly or worse than without IBIS.
This is a major issue that I hope Megadap will get fixed in an upcoming firmware. (I have contacted them by mail today regarding this.)
p.6 #12 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
LarsHP wrote:
Did anyone here with the Techart TZM-01 check if IBIS is working properly?
What I am thinking of here is if the IBIS works equally effective with super wide (10-18mm) and telephoto (90 or 135mm) lenses as with a normal lens (50mm).
After getting my Z6 back from service, I have now checked the Megadap MTZ11 with v2.0 firmware, and it still doesn't communicate focal length to the IBIS (even though EXIF data is correct). IBIS seems to be fixed at 50mm, so lenses significantly longer or shorter will perform poorly or worse than without IBIS.
This is a major issue that I hope Megadap will get fixed in an upcoming firmware. (I have contacted them by mail today regarding this.)...Show more →
If you can forward me the issue, I can direct it to Megadap's owner. I have him on direct chat line.
p.6 #13 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
azenis wrote:
If you can forward me the issue, I can direct it to Megadap's owner. I have him on direct chat line.
Thanks. I got an email response from the team which said that the technicians will try to replicate my findings and (hopefully) fix it. I have previously emailed with Gabale and Megadap earlier, and they are responsive and appear serious, so I expect I will get a reply after they have looked into it.
When using TZM-01 on your Nikon Z6II, have you tested how the IBIS works with super wide and telephoto lenses?
As I wrote, it appears that the IBIS is set to 50mm focal length even though the MTZ11 reports the correct (super wide or telephoto) focal length in EXIF. I discovered this when shooting my 15mm lens at relatively slow shutter speed (for instance 1/20th or 1/10th sec.), I would really struggle to get shake-free images with the MTZ11 and IBIS engaged, but when I turn off IBIS, I get most shots sharp. The same happens regarding my 90mm lens (while using a bit faster shutter). When using my 50mm lens, IBIS seems to work as expected. When using focus magnification I also see some odd behavior from the IBIS, except when using my 50mm lens.
When using TZM-01 on your Nikon Z6II, have you tested how the IBIS works with super wide and telephoto lenses?
As I wrote, it appears that the IBIS is set to 50mm focal length even though the MTZ11 reports the correct (super wide or telephoto) focal length in EXIF. I discovered this when shooting my 15mm lens at relatively slow shutter speed (for instance 1/20th or 1/10th sec.), I would really struggle to get shake-free images with the MTZ11 and IBIS engaged, but when I turn off IBIS, I get most shots sharp. The same happens regarding my 90mm lens (while using a bit faster shutter). When using my 50mm lens, IBIS seems to work as expected. When using focus magnification I also see some odd behavior from the IBIS, except when using my 50mm lens. ...Show more →
I have really not tested the IBIS on wides and teles. I mostly own 35-85mm lenses. Only thing wider is a Nikon S 20mm F1.8 and a Canon FD 17mm F4.
Let me try with my 85mm and report back in a few days.
p.6 #16 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
azenis wrote:
I have really not tested the IBIS on wides and teles. I mostly own 35-85mm lenses. Only thing wider is a Nikon S 20mm F1.8 and a Canon FD 17mm F4.
Let me try with my 85mm and report back in a few days.
If you have the FTZ (or a Nikon Z lens) without built-in VR, then take for instance 10 images with slow exposure time with a focal length "far from 50mm" with the TZM-01 and then compare it to the results you get in 10 shots with a similar lens without using the TZM-01 (that is, with a native Z lens or a F mount lens with the FTZ adapter). This way you will be able to quantify how the IBIS works
p.6 #17 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
So your Techart is working well? Seemed there were some initial trouble with the adapter and it breaking rather quick. I'm with you, the flush fit would be a welcome change, but hadn't heard many positive reviews of it in the wild.
azenis wrote:
I've got it and comparing to LM-EA7, I'd think they are about the same. Although I was using the EA7 with A9, and the AF system on the Sony is vastly better than my Z6II.
Haven't encountered any problem with it.
Something I did like... and the reason why I picked the Techart over the Megadap was the flush motor at the bottom.
I'm adapting mostly fat fast lenses, and the "bump" coming out at the bottom on the Megadap, including the just-announced Fotodiox just present nothing but potential problem for me. But that's just my case and the lenses I'm adapting to... I have heard good things on both Techart and Megadap, and speed-wise the Techart is slightly faster but it might have to do with the shorter travel.
Personally, I was quite happy with the Techart so far....Show more →
p.6 #18 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
@azenis, if you have stacked adapters, try the 17mm, the issue is more readily apparent with wides then short teles.
Techart had a similar issue with the TZE-01 when it was released. The adapter emulates the 50mm f/1.4 AF-S, and though it would recognize the Sony lens focal length (say the Voigt 15mm) it would stabilize it as though it was the 50. Nikon seems to have separate systems for IBIS and EXIF. Techart seemed to fix this in firmware updates on the TZE-01, but not sure about the TZM...
When using TZM-01 on your Nikon Z6II, have you tested how the IBIS works with super wide and telephoto lenses?
As I wrote, it appears that the IBIS is set to 50mm focal length even though the MTZ11 reports the correct (super wide or telephoto) focal length in EXIF. I discovered this when shooting my 15mm lens at relatively slow shutter speed (for instance 1/20th or 1/10th sec.), I would really struggle to get shake-free images with the MTZ11 and IBIS engaged, but when I turn off IBIS, I get most shots sharp. The same happens regarding my 90mm lens (while using a bit faster shutter). When using my 50mm lens, IBIS seems to work as expected. When using focus magnification I also see some odd behavior from the IBIS, except when using my 50mm lens. ...Show more →
p.6 #19 · Leica M to Nikon Z AUTOFOCUS adapter NOW available
Only got my MTZ11 working properly a few months after I bought (and received) it, since I could get hold of a correct micro USB cable to upgrade to the correct FW version (partly due to local Covid lock down which meant no physical shops were open to find one, and partly due to a very lackluster response of the Megadap customer service department).
Fortunately the MTZ itself now works quite well, if used intelligently within its limitations.
While it theoretically is possible to make it cover the whole rang between 'close(st) up' and eternity, that IMO is not the smartest way to use it. Operation will be noisy and slow, with much hunting.
But if used as a Nikon TC16A (not the TC16, which was the TC Nikon made specifically, and only, for use with the Nikon F3AF), that improves significantly.
I got my TC16A with my first F801 in 1988, as part of making my first steps using AF without having to buy a new set of AF lenses.
I could simply keep using my old manual focus lenses on it, at the cost of 2/3 stop, and a 2/3 extension.
It would not focus the complete 'closest by' to eternity range, but instead required to (more or less) preset the focus on the 'correct' distance to the subject. When the AF then was activated, it would do a pretty decent, and for those days fast, job of locking focus on the subject (much better then the Canon EOS 650, as I found out in a direct side by side comparison between my F801 and a friends EOS 650, and the reason why I stuck with Nikon).
If using the MTZ11 in a similar way, it delivers a pretty good (fast and if not silent still very low noise) job of focusing with a in my experience wide range of lenses.
In my case 70's and 80's AI and AiS lenses like 2/28mm, 1.4/50mm, 1.8/85mm Nikkor H, 2.8/135mm Auto Nikkor, 4.5/80-200 AI, and even a Soligor 8/500 mirror reflex.
Currently am waiting for a FD to Leica adapter ring, after which I will be able to use my old 60's Canon FL 1.8/85 and FD 1.8/50mm as wel on the Z6, never expected to use those in earnest again after I switched to Nikon back in the late 70's
It would be nice if you could verify my findings regarding MTZ11 to IBIS communication.
For instance, take your 135mm lens and use the MTZ11 with focal length set correctly and shoot several test shots at a slow shutter speed (like 1/30th sec.) and then compare to a similar series where you use the FTZ (or a "dumb" adapter) with focal length set in "non-CPU" data in the menu. Then compare the two series and see how many shake-free images you get with the two different adapters. If the MTZ11 communicates to IBIS correctly you should get similar results.
