Another German review. Auto-translate is slightly worse than the last one—large portions are unintelligible. Still, makes some direct comparisons to the FE 35 1.8. From what I could make out (def could be wrong here due to auto-translate), he prefers the Sony due to its superior AF and in camera corrections overall—but says Samyang has a more attractive look, especially for people. In particular, he demonstrates a front focusing issue that looks like it might be caused by spherical aberration—which might also explain the superiority in rendering.
EDIT: This one also comes with files to download! Hey hey.
Another German review. Auto-translate is slightly worse than the last one—large portions are unintelligible. Still, makes some direct comparisons to the FE 35 1.8. From what I could make out (def could be wrong here due to auto-translate), he prefers the Sony due to its superior AF and in camera corrections overall—but says Samyang has a more attractive look, especially for people. In particular, he demonstrates a front focusing issue that looks like it might be caused by spherical aberration—which might also explain the superiority in rendering.
EDIT: This one also comes with files to download! Hey hey.
This is getting confusing ... I appreciate the author's effort but having a quick look through the photos - there are some weird inconsistencies. E.g., take f2.8, Sony is sharper on the right side, Samyang on the left side ...
So it seems both of his copies are less than perfect ...
Edit; It's actually consistent across the aperture range...
j4nu wrote:
This is getting confusing ... I appreciate the author's effort but having a quick look through the photos - there are some weird inconsistencies. E.g., take f2.8, Sony is sharper on the right side, Samyang on the left side ...
So it seems both of his copies are less than perfect ...
Edit; It's actually consistent across the aperture range...
I think at this point we can conclude that the performance of the two 35s are similar, with the Sony having a bit better technical performance in terms of distortion and (maybe) in camera correction of CA with a class leading AF implementation & the Samyang having better rendering due to some SA which may present some challenges to AF-C. Resolution seems to be close enough that good copies of either will be better than average or bad copies of either.
I don't know really... the reviews are all over the place but if Samyang is less sharp but has nicer rendering I'm all for it ...
but yes we can be sure Sony has the upper hand in AF department and both fringe a lot .
Another day, another first look. Although it links to a review in the video description, in the comments he says he won't post it for a few days. Still, more coverage is good.
Thanks, this is encouraging from youtube comments:
The bokeh seems to be a bit nicer than the one of the Sony 35mm 1.8, right?
Marc Alhadeff Photography
yes it is smoother
j4nu wrote:
Thanks, this is encouraging from youtube comments:
Yeah, seems to be going along with the consensus of what info & images we've been seeing thus far. I guess one thing to keep in mind is that the slight spherical aberration that most likely provides this smoother bokeh will negatively affect AF in situations where it is most prominent (close up) & the sensor is most disadvantaged (bad lighting) if my experience with the 40 CF is any indication. Can be fixed by getting in better lighting situations & using AF-S when it flares up (or just getting an a9 ).
Should be an excellent pairing with the a7c in terms of discrete everyday cam for people who want a more fully featured x100v or rx1 (stabilization, better AF & battery, sealing) & don't have the money or want to use the q2's 28mm. Really wish the FE 35 1.8 had better rendering, as I don't think Samyang's AF motor will really be on par with Sony's even in ideal conditions & the MFD on the Sony is class leading for non-macro lenses. Also wish the 40 CF weren't such an oversized bell of a lens, as that seems to still be king of the heap in terms of IQ, build, and MFD—even if it is probably the worst in terms of AF due to having the same SA issues as the Samyang (likely) has & forced closing of the aperture by Zeiss makes bad lighting affect AF sooner. If wishes were fishes though, eh? That is to say that the Samyang seems to walk the line between utility of the FE 35 (size/weight, superior light gathering) and the IQ of the 40. I'll be really curious to see how much it sells along with the 7c.
I own the Samyang FE 35mm f2.8, and it's great wide open.
I just don't see any reason to change to the f1.8 version unless I'd get great performance at the faster apertures.
His take on Samyang 35 vs Sony 35: "Even if they would be priced the same, my personal choice between the 2 will be the Samyang 35mm F1.8 due to its better background blur, better skin rendering and clickless aperture ring."
His take on Samyang 35 vs Sony 35: "Even if they would be priced the same, my personal choice between the 2 will be the Samyang 35mm F1.8 due to its better background blur, better skin rendering and clickless aperture ring."
Mmmmmm. Best companion to the 7c? My math might not be 100% on this (not looking it up) but I think the weight of the 7c + this Samyang 35 vs the 7iii body only is between 5-20g, which is almost nothing. Considering this is competing against the probable vaporware of the rx1r iii & the 7c + Sony's 35 I think the only things we're missing here are:
Slightly sturdier construction. I don't care if it's high quality polycarbonate/stronger metal & if it raises the weight/price a little. Those are acceptable trade offs for the peace of mind that my lens can take a little more abuse.
Better MFD. Perhaps I'm alone in caring about this, but if I just want a camera with one lens I throw in a bag I really appreciate the ability to do closeups.
And that's it. The AF is comparable. Resolution seems to be slightly favored toward the Samyang based on multiple reviews, but at the very least it should be within copy variation. Bokeh is better. Sealing at the very least is visible vs "trust on this one" approach of the Sony lens. CA is comparable (both pretty bad). Rendering is nicer. Very well done, Samyang.
Can't wait till people on here get the lens and start to post pictures!
His take on Samyang 35 vs Sony 35: "Even if they would be priced the same, my personal choice between the 2 will be the Samyang 35mm F1.8 due to its better background blur, better skin rendering and clickless aperture ring."
Better than I expected and it has that typical "Samyang" look (sharp but less contrasty). For me the deal breakers will be:
* onion rings, seem to be better than on SY45, which sometimes got in the way
* close up performance, I like using 35mm close (not macro-close or Batis 0.3x close, but I hope IQ around 0.15x is not degraded)
* CA, I'll have to live with it I guess...
Now, where is the lens? It was stated to be available in the first half of October here in PL, but it's nowhere to be found yet .
Still no sight of the lens but my local distributor introduced a 50e cashback which brings the price down to 305e. In comparison, Sony costs 635e around here...
EDIT: finally some updates, it should be here this week, so I'll probably have it for the weekend. I hope sun shows up until then, as of now it's 100% clouds ...
I had cancelled my preorder (since I've had couple really bad experiences with these AF Samyang lenses), but after seeing Petr Klapper's images and all these latest reviews, I decided to order it again. Looks like this lens just arrived in stock at a local seller where I bought it, so I should have mine sometime next week.
I shoot a lot of video, my biggest issues with the Samyangs is the amount of focus breathing and AF that's just not as good as the Sony's. I love the look from all their three 1.8's and have come very close to getting the 45 and 75, but I just can't get past that. Some of the Batis lenses do the same thing, for me that's a dealbreaker. I wish they'd get things better sorted on the video side, but I guess that would probably drive up the price too.
JVan_02 wrote:
Lens is looking better with every review
Get some pics in here, man!
I'd really like to, but I don't have a single shot with direct sunlight ... so I was mainly checking MFD performance today, though that's hard with ISO > 1000. I'm not super happy with my copy as the right side is softer than the left side, so I have one very good corner, one very bad and 2 okay-ish. I won't bore you with the corner pics, but a couple of shots at close to MFD (exif reports 0.23m at the lowest) wide open:
8k ISO lol
Some bokeh ball shots:
* f1.8
*f2.8
* f1.8
* f2.8
In short I'd say: typical SY rendering, snappy AF, fringes a lot (and that's without direct sunlight ) - so nothing new compared to reviews . You can feel it's a bit bigger and heavier than SY45, but bokeh balls seem to show less onion rings and less cats eye-ish shape (but I don't have SY45 to compare directly anymore).
Hmm, I think I found the reason for excessive fringing, worst corner vs best corner f5.6:
So it seems the fringing is present (even at f5.6, worse at larger apertures) in the decentered/tilted corner, whereas it's absent (at least in these conditions, heavily overcast sky) in the "good" corner...
And another example:
Left Upper corner (okay-ish) vs Right Upper corner (worst), same photo f5.6:
I'd say the left corner should even fringe more because of more sunlight...
And fringing in the worst corner across aperture range:
... I appreciate the author's effort but having a quick look through the photos - there are some weird inconsistencies. E.g., take f2.8, Sony is sharper on the right side, Samyang on the left side ...
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