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I have noticed such things too.

I love the 200/2.8–only sold it because the LEA-4 was a joke.

Temped to pick up a ZA 135 1.8, another lens I’ve owned several times and think it’s the best 135 IMO



Sep 01, 2020 at 03:56 PM
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Those Minolta 300 2.8 & 400 f/4.5 primes...if they work well with those that could be tempting to some.


Sep 01, 2020 at 04:36 PM
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gocolts wrote:
Those Minolta 300 2.8 & 400 f/4.5 primes...if they work well with those that could be tempting to some.


There's a 300 2.8 on Dyxum for $750. Doubt you can get one for much cheaper
https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/minolta-300-2-8-hs-750_topic138509.html



Sep 01, 2020 at 04:38 PM
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Now sitting back with a bag of popcorn and waiting to see prices fly on ebay for some A-mount lenses.


Call me



Sep 01, 2020 at 04:48 PM
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adapter and a used 135F1.8 is almost the cost of the Sigma. Once wedding season is over, ditching my 70-200F4 and grabbing a 135


Sep 01, 2020 at 05:35 PM
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3catsinky wrote:
adapter and a used 135F1.8 is almost the cost of the Sigma. Once wedding season is over, ditching my 70-200F4 and grabbing a 135


I would definitely take the Sigma 135/1.8. It was an impressive lens when compared to the Sony 135/1.8 GM.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1588217/0?keyword=fm,review#14793179

It's also likely Sigma will release a 135/1.8 DG DN in the near future.



Sep 01, 2020 at 05:41 PM
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Wow; sure didn't see this one coming. I assumed we'd gotten all the adapters from Sony we were ever going to get.

I have great fondness for the old Minolta 80-200mm ƒ2.8 APO that I shot with the a99ii. Looking forward to seeing how it does on the a7Riv. (I'm off to eBay to find one...)







Sep 01, 2020 at 09:23 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I have noticed such things too.

I love the 200/2.8–only sold it because the LEA-4 was a joke.



I was a Minolta shooter for years and years back in the film days. I was trolling eBay just the other day for Maxxum/Dynax/Alpha 7 and 9 bodies. I owned a lot of Minolta lenses, likely too many. I remember them very fondly. It hurt when I sold them to go digital with Canon but, as we know, Minolta didn't really make the transition, though the 7 Digital was among the best, just too little, too late.

Anyways, among my fondest memories are of the 200/2.8 APO HS. I lusted after that lens for so long and when I finally picked one up, it didn't disappoint. I'd love to see what it can do on digital but I wonder if time has taken some of the shine off. I always hated screw drive AF, I'll admit that, but I'm curious about a number of the old gems like:

28/2
50/1.4
85/1.4 G Limited
100/2.8 Macro
100/2
200/2.8

Those were my 6 most used and loved lenses, with the 28/2 and 100/2.8 Macro being my most used. My 100STF basically eliminates my urge to pick up anything in the 85-100 range, but I'd love to see the 28/2 and 200/2.8 on a high resolution Sony.



Sep 01, 2020 at 10:40 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
@FredMiranda@

The good:
- terrific sharpness, even WO, onto the outter frame at 42mp
- gorgeous colors and contrast
- built wonderfully
- small for a 100/2
- decent 3-D
- price (nowadays)
- overall rendering (!!)

The so-so:
- Typical MFD (wish it were higher magnification)
- bokeh—generally smooth cause it’s a 100mm f2, but not as buttery like Oly 100/2 or CY 100/2

The bad:
- more CA than modern glass, but clean up quickly
- MF is hard as the focus ring is small, short throw
- flare resistance

It’s really a great lens, hence the status. Files just have something a bit special. And it’s pretty versatile.


Thank you for the samples and summary! Very nice rendering indeed.



Sep 01, 2020 at 11:11 PM
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I was a Minolta shooter for years and years back in the film days. I was trolling eBay just the other day for Maxxum/Dynax/Alpha 7 and 9 bodies. I owned a lot of Minolta lenses, likely too many. I remember them very fondly. It hurt when I sold them to go digital with Canon but, as we know, Minolta didn't really make the transition, though the 7 Digital was among the best, just too little, too late.

Anyways, among my fondest memories are of the 200/2.8 APO HS. I lusted after that lens for so long and when I
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I have some thoughts on several of those, but can I get your impressions on the 85 1.4 ltd and 28/2? Also, did you ever shoot the legendary 200/4 macro? That still fetches sky-high prices--it's not my type of lens, but I am wondering why it's so coveted.



Sep 01, 2020 at 11:13 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I have some thoughts on several of those, but can I get your impressions on the 85 1.4 ltd and 28/2? Also, did you ever shoot the legendary 200/4 macro? That still fetches sky-high prices--it's not my type of lens, but I am wondering why it's so coveted.


Hah, sure, we're going back some years, though, and I never shot them on digital, so you'll have to frame my impressions through that lens.

The 28/2 was my most used lens, full stop. I put thousands and thousands of exposures on it over the years. I was a big Fujichrome user so we're mostly talking Velvia 50 and Provia 100 with the occasional Astia 100. So, yeah, Velvia 50, that takes care of any talk about colour reproduction haha. I thought the 28/2 had very nice bokeh and and it was, for the time, very sharp in the centre straight from f/2. I usually used f/8 or f/11 for landscapes for DOF but f/5.6 was, for me at the time, critically sharp to the edges and corners. Bokeh always struck me as smooth at the time, but again, film and shallow DOF can do wonders on the bokeh front. Now, I was looking at exposures on a light table or maybe a contact sheet before printing, not at 100% on a 4k monitor, so do my old impressions stand up to how I evaluate photos now? Likely not.

That said, my MF kit at the time included an RTSII and I had the 28/2.8 Distagon and I preferred the Minolta on all fronts. I liked but never loved the Zeiss 28/2.8 and still don't totally understand the adoration for that lens. I blame the fact that its stablemate was the 28/2 and I liked it a lot better. So that may be considered high praise, everyone's mileage may vary, of course.

The 85/1.4 G (D) LTD is a lens that I regret selling, but honestly more as the investment it appears to have become. I owned the 85/1.4 G (non D) and when I was buying film and talking lenses at my favourite shop in Seoul, one of the guys showed me the LTD that they just had come in. So I traded my G and gave over a bunch of hard earned cash on got the LTD. Then as now, I was obsessed with the lower contrast look of Fujichrome Astia so my impressions of any portrait lens of the period are, pardon the pun, coloured by that. The LTD, in my memory, was sharper than my G for the first few stops and the bokeh was also softer so images had the impression of more background separation. Was it night-and-day? Likely not, but I had no ability to do real side-by-sides then.

The tricky part comes in when it comes to my real objective impression of the difference in bokeh...I also had the 135STF at that time and my god, that lens utterly blew my mind. There was quite a bit of talk about OOF areas and bokeh on the Minolta user groups on Yahoo at the time but it wasn't the same type of obsession as now. Things didn't get dissected in quite the same way. So, for looking at a photo and going for overall impression on a light table or a print, there wasn't much comparison between the LTD and STF; the STF just did things that no other lens could at the time.

So, was the LTD better than the G? Yes, in my mind, definitively. Was it better, bokeh-wise, than the 135 STF? Not a chance. So I had the LTD for a while but, when I packed up my life in Korea to go travelling, I looked at my 100/2, 100/2.8 and 85 LTD and thought 'Which one in this focal length range actually worth something?' I sold the LTD to finance a boatload (backpack?) of film haha. Sigh. That was the life of a shooter of pricey Fujichrome! I think I spent $1500 or $2000 on film for 2 months! The 28/2 came with me, though, no way I was getting rid of that one. Shoulda kept the LTD, it turns out.

So, I don't know if that helps. Like I said, a lot of my memories of those lenses are coloured by the film I used and the lenses I shot them with. In general, I have a certain affection for lenses with a lower contrast rendering. Sharp, but lacking the dink-out contrast Zeiss made so popular. Don't get me wrong, I want that contrast for landscapes, and have always had Zeiss lenses in my bag, but horses for courses, I like something different as well. I always felt that Minolta delivered that difference, hence my AF kit was Minolta, my MF kit Contax/Zeiss.

As for the 200/4, it never appealed to me as much as the 200/2.8 APO and it was big and expensive to boot. I've had basically every Minolta AF lens on my camera at some point but never that one. Go figure!



Sep 02, 2020 at 12:39 AM
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I should also add, the first thing I noticed about the 85 G Limited was that it was bigger and quite a bit heavier. It's a front heavy beast and, I think, foretold of the heft of 85's to come. When I bought a digital Canon I also bought the 85/1.2 L so I guess in comparison, the Minolta LTD wasn't that oddly balanced haha. But if anyone is ever thinking of buying one and wants to see if it's legit or not, just put it beside an 85 G, you'll notice right away.


Sep 02, 2020 at 12:58 AM
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I haven't seen anything by the Minolta 100mm F2 that can't be matched by the Canon EF 100mm F2 USM. Maybe higher quality control? Their respective reputations are certainly different. The Canon is routinely dismissed while the Minolta is revered.

My copy of the Canon is very sharp, focuses very quickly, and is/was considerably less expensive. The Minolta is heavier and longer despite the lack of motors or distance encoder. The Minolta also extends to focus. The Canon is still a current product.


I had the Canon 100mm f2 for years. It doesn't look anything like the examples of the Minolta shown here. The Canon is flatter both in rendition and colour. Like the Canon 85mm 1.8 whose drawing it greatly resembles, the colour of the Canon 100mm f2 is cold/muted and quite flat. I used both the cheap 85/100mm lenses for a decade of wedding photographer and never stopped lusting after the 85L as a replacement simply because it's colour was so much better, more alive. I kept the cheaper and smaller lenses though, they were simple, reliable workhorses. The 85L is a great lens but big, expensive and slow focusing in comparison.



Sep 02, 2020 at 03:12 AM
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The camera body compatibility chart indicates much wider compatibility than the press release seems to indicate. It’s more like an LA-EA3 when it comes to compatibility with the older bodies, if Sony’s chart below is correct.

https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=us&lang=en&mdl=LA-EA5&cat=3&loc=en_US

Edit: typo



Sep 02, 2020 at 03:48 AM
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A website has tests with a Minolta 80-200mm f2.8 HS.
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/FpimiDFm7kV46Vvw2aj2Hw

This is the first I've seen of anyone actually mounting a Minolta lens to it. This should show that Minolta lenses are actually compatible



Sep 02, 2020 at 08:24 AM
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A peculiar product in its timing. I and so many others, finally, have enough Sony and 3rd party E mount lenses. The Sony A/Minolta lenses are older designs and so can’t compete with the lastest designs.

My first thought was to adapt a 300mm F2.8 “A” mount but even the latest version doesn’t review so well. Guess I’ll just keep using my adapted EF 300mm F2.8. Now if Sony or someone else were to develop a better EF to E mount adapter...



Sep 02, 2020 at 08:32 AM
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SoundHound wrote:
A peculiar product in its timing. I and so many others, finally, have enough Sony and 3rd party E mount lenses. The Sony A/Minolta lenses are older designs and so can’t compete with the lastest designs.

My first thought was to adapt a 300mm F2.8 “A” mount but even the latest version doesn’t review so well. Guess I’ll just keep using my adapted EF 300mm F2.8. Now if Sony or someone else were to develop a better EF to E mount adapter...


Timing is about right--I just sold all of my Minolta G and HS lenses last year!



Sep 02, 2020 at 09:33 AM
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It's nice to see Sony offering a-mount users another bridge to e-mount, if they want to switch, without selling all their existing lenses at once.

I think there are a few issues that people who ponder getting some a-mount glass to use with the new adapter,though. First of all, the selection of lenses designed after 2006 and/or glass that at least got updated coatings is comparatively limited. That doesn't mean the Minolta lenses are bad, but most were designed two to four decades ago. The 100 2.8 Macro and the 200 2.8 remain two favorites of mine, but depending on what you shoot, those coatings really show their age. Also, I haven't checked, but I suppose even this new adapter doesn't give you AF with a Sony TC's (which are simply rebadged Minolta TC's).



Sep 02, 2020 at 09:56 AM
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How good are the Minolta AF lenses compared to modern day lenses?

How will they perform on modern day cameras / sensors? Specifically the RIV.



Sep 02, 2020 at 10:33 AM
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Poefolk wrote:
How good are the Minolta AF lenses compared to modern day lenses?

How will they perform on modern day cameras / sensors? Specifically the RIV.


It's difficult to make generalizations, but compared to modern lenses, CA, flare and loss of contrast when shooting into the light will be major issues for most Minolta lenses. When it comes to resolution, it really depends on what lens you're looking at. The Minolta 200 2.8 APO or the Minolta 100 2.8 Macro will be plenty of sharp on modern sensors. I have no experience with the riv, but I I didn't find either lens lacking sharpness on 36 and 42MP sensors, when I had both lenses. The 200 2.8 especially was already sharp across most of the frame wide open. Other lenses, e.g. the Minolta 35 1.4 (later rebadged by Sony) won't impress you, if landscapes are your thing. That 35 1.4 was designed primarily as a portrait lens and hence for closer distances. Even on a-mount cameras with only 24MP, that lens wasn't too impressive at infinity.

Frankly, at this point, I would think the main reason to pick up a-mount glass is that you're looking for an FL/f-stop combination not yet available in e-mount (think 200 2.8, and even in that case, you could get the Canon 200 2.8 instead), want a particular kind of rendition or get the lens you want for a very good price.



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