Even according to ePhotozine the Sigma is way ahead of the Samyang on the edge of the frame for most apertures.
And they only do edge, no areas further out in the field. Not that one should put much trust in single copy tests, much lest chart tests (they are so, so hard to get aligned correctly)
And everyone I know personally who has got the Samyang has had serious issues with it. Of course the Sigma has it's variation too, but that seems to be in a rater different class.
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DavidBM wrote:
Even according to ePhotozine the Sigma is way ahead of the Samyang on the edge of the frame for most apertures.
And they only do edge, no areas further out in the field. Not that one should put much trust in single copy tests, much lest chart tests (they are so, so hard to get aligned correctly)
And everyone I know personally who has got the Samyang has had serious issues with it. Of course the Sigma has it's variation too, but that seems to be in a rater different class.
I'm pretty much at the point where I'm ready to test all three (the Sigma and the Samyang 75 and 85) out myself. I had problems with my first copy of the Samyang but I really can't fault my current one. Still, the Sigma is definitely tempting, even if just for the aperture ring.
I've also got to weigh up how important corner sharpness is for my own usage. I'm unlikely to use the Samyang 85mm for landscapes as the CV 65mm and the 135mm GM seem to be all I need in that range.
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So what is everyone's thoughts on differences in bokeh compared to the GM? Is the difference noticeable in the real world and is it worth choosing the GM over the Sigma for the rendering alone?
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Teo Rey wrote:
So what is everyone's thoughts on differences in bokeh compared to the GM? Is the difference noticeable in the real world and is it worth choosing the GM over the Sigma for the rendering alone?
That is a very personal question, depending on individual preferences. Reasonable people can disagree. In my house we got the Sigma, but the lens is primarily for my wife. She really values the fast AF, sharpness even wide open, and the lack of CA. If It were me that was primarily using the lens, however, I would pick the 85 GM for it rendering and wouldn't worry that it isn't quite up to the Sigma in those areas. So, I think this comes down to a very personal decision and what each person values most.
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My lens arrived today so here are some first impressions
- The lens definitely feels heavier than the Samyang 85mm but not by much. In saying that, it also has a more premium feel to in which I prefer over the slight weight saving.
- Design wise, I love the way this lens looks. The huge glass on the front element reminds me of the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 EX lens which I owned and loved. This lens has so many similarities and feels like the true successor to that lens which was already optically amazing.
- IQ wise I have only done a few test shots around the house but it looks tack sharp corner to corner so good to see there's no decentering or softness wide open. I don't feel it blows the Samyang away in terms of sharpness but there is a slight noticeable difference.
- In terms of AF I feel it focuses really fast and accurate in AF-C, it feels like native performance. I would say that even if Sigma release a Firmware version for this lens I wouldn't upgrade in case it turns out to have more issues.
Overall I'm really glad I made the switch and can't wait to use this lens more!
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Photosbydlee wrote:
My lens arrived today so here are some first impressions
- The lens definitely feels heavier than the Samyang 85mm but not by much. In saying that, it also has a more premium feel to in which I prefer over the slight weight saving.
- Design wise, I love the way this lens looks. The huge glass on the front element reminds me of the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 EX lens which I owned and loved. This lens has so many similarities and feels like the true successor to that lens which was already optically amazing.
- IQ wise I have only done a few test shots around the house but it looks tack sharp corner to corner so good to see there's no decentering or softness wide open. I don't feel it blows the Samyang away in terms of sharpness but there is a slight noticeable difference.
- In terms of AF I feel it focuses really fast and accurate in AF-C, it feels like native performance. I would say that even if Sigma release a Firmware version for this lens I wouldn't upgrade in case it turns out to have more issues.
Overall I'm really glad I made the switch and can't wait to use this lens more!...Show more →
Just don't shoot any straight lines without correction ...
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Sony GM for the rendering.
After using the new Sigma for quite some time now, I wouldn't prefer the Sony anymore. In fact I sold it. The difference in rendering is tiny in real life, but you gain better contrast when shooting against the sun (the Sony gets often very hazy), faster AF, better sharpness, less CAs.
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Holger wrote:
After using the new Sigma for quite some time now, I wouldn't prefer the Sony anymore. In fact I sold it. The difference in rendering is tiny in real life, but you gain better contrast when shooting against the sun (the Sony gets often very hazy), faster AF, better sharpness, less CAs.
I don't think the difference is tiny but we all have our subjective opinions. Both great lenses.
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An interesting exercise: how many of the images posted so far are really calling for an 85/1.4? I mean, images that couldn't be as succesfully taken with an 85/1.8, a 90sh macro or even a zoom covering this FL?
Do we really have to decide "which is better GM or Sigma" based on overall performance at all apertures and distances? Or, for the particular case of 85/1.4, we should give more weight to the exact scenarios that are calling for an 85 with the largest aperture possible?
What is your own idea of what these scenarios are (if any)? And would you consider an 85/1.4 a "general purpose lens" or a specialized one?
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I am currently testing both lenses on my A7RIV.
The first difference that I noticed is that CA on the Sigma is well controlled whereas it is quite noticeable on the GM.
I can't say that I have been blown away by the differences in sharpness. Given that I am planning on using my lens for portraits, rendering is a high priority for me (the GM is very pleasing in this regard). I will need to do more testing before drawing any conclusions but will watch this thread with interest.
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vdo1 wrote:
An interesting exercise: how many of the images posted so far are really calling for an 85/1.4? I mean, images that couldn't be as succesfully taken with an 85/1.8, a 90sh macro or even a zoom covering this FL?
Do we really have to decide "which is better GM or Sigma" based on overall performance at all apertures and distances? Or, for the particular case of 85/1.4, we should give more weight to the exact scenarios that are calling for an 85 with the largest aperture possible?
What is your own idea of what these scenarios are (if any)? And would you consider an 85/1.4 a "general purpose lens" or a specialized one?...Show more →
Everyone has a different purpose for each lens. Most people consider a 90mm macro as a macro lens but I shoot 0 macro with mine, it’s only used for product/still life photography. I find both 35mm and 85mm as somewhat general purpose lenses. An 85mm lens can be great for portraits, street, still life and landscapes.
For me I would never be able to use the 90mm Macro only as the specular highlights are the weirdest and ugliest shape (IMO) wide open and even stopped down slightly. If I had to own one it would probably be the 85mm. If Sony had an 85mm that can focus close like the new RF 85mm f/2 then I think that would be my ideal lens.