I've been hours down the YouTube rabbit hole before posting this and I can't figure this out...Could use any help here.
I've always struggled with colors and my Sonys for skin (this is probably more on me than the camera!) so in an effort to figure this out I grabbed a Spyder Color Checkr (same 24-color panel as X-Rite, but half the cost). I use C1 and trying to create ICC profiles for use. Trying this, which is a PDF attached to a video by X-Rite (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GEya-1nchWFOJUkAiet_XmA5c-SViay8/view)
I have Capture One 11.
Some issues:
- no "embed camera profile" option for me
- the developed profile is a .icc not .icm. When I put it in the right folder I don't see anything, even after changing the extension.
There must be a simpler way to do this. Anyone have any ideas or anything to contribute? Would really appreciate it. Thanks!
The spyder chart isn't the same or compatible with the x-rite. It's proprietary, we found that out the hard way. Unless they've changed it since then. In addition the x-rite software you are referencing for creating custom ICC profiles was after C1 had upgraded to version 12 and it might not work in 11.
Beni wrote:
The spyder chart isn't the same or compatible with the x-rite. It's proprietary, we found that out the hard way. Unless they've changed it since then.
Thanks. Yes, I'm finding out it's not the same. Well, I guess I'll be returning this then. All the same, the workflow doesn't pass so that should be irrespective of the color
I edited my post with an answer to your post, sorry, I should have simply made a new post. It's possible the older version of C1 is the problem with the workflow referenced.
Beni wrote:
I edited my post with an answer to your post, sorry, I should have simply made a new post. It's possible the older version of C1 is the problem with the workflow referenced.
Thanks. Good call. I believe you're right. So, I I could just buy the Passport but the software seems to be free, no?
lukeiam wrote:
I've been hours down the YouTube rabbit hole before posting this and I can't figure this out...Could use any help here.
I've always struggled with colors and my Sonys for skin (this is probably more on me than the camera!) so in an effort to figure this out I grabbed a Spyder Color Checkr (same 24-color panel as X-Rite, but half the cost). I use C1 and trying to create ICC profiles for use. Trying this, which is a PDF attached to a video by X-Rite (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GEya-1nchWFOJUkAiet_XmA5c-SViay8/view)
I have Capture One 11.
Some issues:
- no "embed camera profile" option for me
- the developed profile is a .icc not .icm. When I put it in the right folder I don't see anything, even after changing the extension.
There must be a simpler way to do this. Anyone have any ideas or anything to contribute? Would really appreciate it. Thanks! ...Show more →
I’ve made my best profiles using lumariver profile designer.
Still, having invested many hours in tweaking profiles for better skin tone accuracy (also with dng editor and the xrite software) I realized that I don’t like Sony CFAs and I will move to Canon in the future. To my eyes, it’s just easier to get nice skin tones from Canon files. Of course many here people will disagree.
numbertwo wrote:
I’ve made my best profiles using lumariver profile designer.
Still, having invested many hours in tweaking profiles for better skin tone accuracy (also with dng editor and the xrite software) I realized that I don’t like Sony CFAs and I will move to Canon in the future. To my eyes, it’s just easier to get nice skin tones from Canon files. Of course many here people will disagree.
I've often asked the same thing of myself and then I realize several very prominent editorial / commercial photographers I love use Sony (at least partially) and I realize the problem is me, not the camera..Sure, maybe the colors are easier to nail with Canon or Nikon, but my hunch is that a proper calibrator will get me 90% of the way there. My thing with Sony is that most photos come out great, but the 15% that don't are REALLY hard to get right color-wise.
The x-rite profiling software is indeed free. A caveat, it provides a good and accurate profile but if you're a power user you'll want more sophisticated software but that rabbit hole can be very deep indeed.
Incidentally if you want to test whether your version of C1 is the problem with the workflow, simply download a trial of the current version and try it in that. You can install multiple versions of C1 on your system simultaniously.
lukeiam wrote:
I've often asked the same thing of myself and then I realize several very prominent editorial / commercial photographers I love use Sony (at least partially) and I realize the problem is me, not the camera..Sure, maybe the colors are easier to nail with Canon or Nikon, but my hunch is that a proper calibrator will get me 90% of the way there. My thing with Sony is that most photos come out great, but the 15% that don't are REALLY hard to get right color-wise.
For editorial photos with planned lighting, strobes and stuff it’s mostly easy with any camera. But for day to day shooting under different conditions, is when things can get complicated
numbertwo wrote:
For editorial photos with planned lighting, strobes and stuff it’s mostly easy with any camera. But for day to day shooting under different conditions, is when things can get complicated
For sure...But a few of these folks do tons of location stuff, more environmental, with less light control. As an example: https://chadkirkland.com/
lukeiam wrote:
For sure...But a few of these folks do tons of location stuff, more environmental, with less light control. As an example: https://chadkirkland.com/
I recently (few months back) started using C1 instead of LR. Initially on my PC, I would see the exports from C1 have this weird colors. Didn't matter what camera. Same pictures had no issue when using the MAC. I am on C1 Pro 20. Then I selected adobe RGB when creating the jpegs and no more problems. I would still like to buy a nice calibration kit and calibrate my monitor.
Have to differ here, as Chad's models' 'coverings' look like anything but skin, one or two exceptions. Fashion photography nowadays! They will look back in ten years time, cringe and wonder why, and how it happened.
philip_pj wrote:
Have to differ here, as Chad's models' 'coverings' look like anything but skin, one or two exceptions. Fashion photography nowadays! They will look back in ten years time, cringe and wonder why, and how it happened.
lukeiam wrote:
For sure...But a few of these folks do tons of location stuff, more environmental, with less light control. As an example: https://chadkirkland.com/
Very artistic and nice indeed, but Everything is heavily color graded, if you want a nice and natural looking look...
