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nandadevieast
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p.1 #1Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
Example 24 GM

How hard it is for Sony to make a decent 35, GM quality. What we have is one old unreliable chunky lens and a new guy on the table that is very convenient but doesn’t excel.

There are any number of great lenses around 20-21mm ! but not 35.

We need a flagship 35 from Sony.

Sony make a F1.4 GM not the 1.2 GM. Only few people will buy a heavy lens.



Rant over

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Jul 19, 2020 at 01:02 PM
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p.1 #2Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
Want an awesome 35? Get an old Contax-Zeiss 35-70mm f3.4. There you go.
Jul 19, 2020 at 01:12 PM
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p.1 #3Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
The Sigma 35/1.2 is awesome.
Jul 19, 2020 at 01:15 PM
NJPhotographer
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p.1 #4Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
The FE 35/1.8 doesn't excel? Reviews were pretty good.
Jul 19, 2020 at 01:20 PM
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p.1 #5Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
There are plenty of 35mm choices. I hope Sony doesn't waste their time designing another. Much rather have a 28 1.8 orn1.4.
Jul 19, 2020 at 01:22 PM
nandadevieast
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p.1 #6Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
Sigma is great but its a studio lens.
Many of these are 2.8.
I was talking about a F2 minimum or ideally F1.4 lens like 24 GM. Sony FE is there yes but it’s not really a great lens rendering wise. Sigma 45/2.8 look in a F2 or F1.4 lens. In any case, where is the ultimate 35 from Sony?
Jul 19, 2020 at 02:01 PM
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p.1 #7Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
Why is the Sigma a studio lens? It's f/1.2. And it is by all accounts, absolutely phenomenal optically. It's pretty much your no-holds-barred 35mm. In case you're mistaking it for a slower lens, it's this one.

Image thread here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1607534
Jul 19, 2020 at 02:06 PM
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p.1 #8Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
I'd love to see a Sony 35 1.4 GM and 50 1.4 GM to replace the ZA models with all the usual GM buttons and with the newer linear focusing motors. Also love to see an updated 85 1.4 GM with the newer focusing motors. The 24 GM and the 135 GM are world class lenses. Would be incredible to have that quality across the entire spectrum of focal lengths.
Jul 19, 2020 at 02:10 PM
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p.1 #9Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
eventually might happen, Sony might be reaching a point where they could start to make Mark II lenses

and there's a rumor they are working on a f/1.2 lens
Jul 19, 2020 at 02:18 PM
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p.1 #10Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
To answer the OP:

Because the Voigtlander APO-Lanthar theorized in this other thread hasn't been designed, manufactured and distributed yet. Of course the tug of war vis a vis 28mm vs 35mm is still ongoing there. I'm sure Voigtlander is waiting until we get that sorted before they get to the drawing board:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1654635/0
Jul 19, 2020 at 02:48 PM
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p.1 #11Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
Absolutely. Same here.

24/35/50/85/135 GMs

lunar module wrote:
I'd love to see a Sony 35 1.4 GM and 50 1.4 GM to replace the ZA models with all the usual GM buttons and with the newer linear focusing motors. Also love to see an updated 85 1.4 GM with the newer focusing motors. The 24 GM and the 135 GM are world class lenses. Would be incredible to have that quality across the entire spectrum of focal lengths.



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Jul 19, 2020 at 02:54 PM
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p.1 #12Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
This lens seems long overdue, I also wonder when it will come..I imagine soon but what do I know. I would guess the delay has been to some sort of strategic business reason as opposed to an engineering reason. Do they sell more lenses in the long run this way? I feel I personally have bought more lenses as a result of this lens not being available.

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Jul 19, 2020 at 02:56 PM
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p.1 #13Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
letchhausen wrote:
To answer the OP:

Because the Voigtlander APO-Lanthar theorized in this other thread hasn't been designed, manufactured and distributed yet. Of course the tug of war vis a vis 28mm vs 35mm is still ongoing there. I'm sure Voigtlander is waiting until we get that sorted before they get to the drawing board:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1654635/0



Because the Voigtlander APO-Lanthar theorized in this other thread hasn't been designed, manufactured and distributed yet. Of course the tug of war vis a vis 28mm vs 35mm is still ongoing there. I'm sure Voigtlander is waiting until we get that sorted before they get to the drawing board.~

Fixed it for you.
Jul 19, 2020 at 02:57 PM
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p.1 #14Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
Hi by studio lens i meant its not perhaps designed to freely take it outdoors even if people do carry it. Very heavy 1 Kg plus. Yes its the best by all account compromise is in the size and weight. That said I am sure every wedding guy will have one of these.

Jman13 wrote:
Why is the Sigma a studio lens? It's f/1.2. And it is by all accounts, absolutely phenomenal optically. It's pretty much your no-holds-barred 35mm. In case you're mistaking it for a slower lens, it's this one.

Image thread here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1607534

Jul 19, 2020 at 02:58 PM
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p.1 #15Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
A 35GM that mimics the 24GM is an instant buy. The Zeiss is a dump truck compared to the modern Sony GMs.
Jul 19, 2020 at 03:02 PM
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p.1 #16Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
You’ll never get a perfect/has-it-all 35mm
The big companies want you buying a bunch of lenses (and selling,and buying,and selling...),hence the compromises associated with each. Too big,slow AF,too much CA,focus by wire...on it goes.
PS nobody you show the photos to will care anyway👍
nandadevieast wrote:
Example 24 GM

How hard it is for Sony to make a decent 35, GM quality. What we have is one old unreliable chunky lens and a new guy on the table that is very convenient but doesn’t excel.

Added: We need a flagship 35 from Sony.

Rant over

Jul 19, 2020 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #17Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
nandadevieast wrote:
Sigma is great but its a studio lens.


A "studio" lens Come on now. I use it for events and all my outdoor work. We all have different needs and for me the Sigma 35mm 1.2 is just perfect and I don't find the size big at all, sure is not a tiny lens but I don't expect speed and quality in a mini lens.
Jul 19, 2020 at 03:32 PM
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p.1 #18Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
Why can't fans of the Sigma 35 1.2 admit it's huge? It doesn't take away from the marvelous correction or rendering.

It's great if people don't mind the size or find it not overly large in their usage, but in actuality there are few larger faster FF 35mm's in production. The only I can think of is the Milvus 35.



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Jul 19, 2020 at 03:47 PM
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p.1 #19Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
I actually quite like the Zony 35/1.4 from the pictures i have seen. I like it more than Sigma 35/1.4 and Sigma 35/1.2. But I don’t want to buy an expensive lens that’s so not reliable. Of all these lenses i like the SamYang equally and its quite cheap so i can play lottery. My gripe is that Sony should have already had a flagship and benchmark 35.
Jul 19, 2020 at 03:53 PM
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p.1 #20Why don’t we have an AWESOME 35 yet?
nandadevieast wrote:
I actually quite like the Zony 35/1.4 from the pictures i have seen. I like it more than Sigma 35/1.4 and Sigma 35/1.2. But I don’t want to buy an expensive lens that’s so not reliable. Of all these lenses i like the SamYang equally and its quite cheap so i can play lottery. My gripe is that Sony should have already had a flagship and benchmark 35.


What reliability problems does the Sony 35 1.4 have?
Jul 19, 2020 at 04:03 PM
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