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Archive 2020Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
p.3 #1Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
I read somewhere that Leica's most selling lens is their Summicron 35/2 (all different versions counted). After all, it is regarded by many as the focus length for street, probably due to the field of view close to human eye. I always suspect that 50mm is popular for AF cameras only because it is easier to design and easy to make cheap.
I would say that it is a smart move for Voigtlander to design a APO-Lanthar 35mm and make it available in E mount and then in M mount. It might be smarter to design/release it before 50mm since back then this focus length was not so crowded.
I would be in for one since I usually have a 35mm lens glued to my camera, at least 80% of the time.
I would say that it is a smart move for Voigtlander to design a APO-Lanthar 35mm and make it available in E mount and then in M mount. It might be smarter to design/release it before 50mm since back then this focus length was not so crowded.
I would be in for one since I usually have a 35mm lens glued to my camera, at least 80% of the time.
Feb 10, 2021 at 10:16 AM
p.3 #2Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
I still hope that Cosina releases a 35mm f2 Apo, even though it's a bit late now. Until a few weeks ago, we didn't have good options but now we have at least 2. The Sigma 35mm f2 is tough to compete with, especially for the price.
Feb 10, 2021 at 10:19 AM
p.3 #3Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
Since I know there will not be a Loxia 28/2, my best hope is for a CV 28/2 (APO, or well corrected CA). It could be f/1.4, but I'm not looking for a tiny f/3.5 pancake style lens. Whether f/2 or f/1.4, it would be lighter than my Zeiss ZE 28/2 + Sigma MC-11, which currently is my best 28 prime.
For wide MF primes, I currently own CV 15, Loxia 21, Loxia 25, Loxia 35, CV 40. A CV 28 would gap perfectly for me between Loxia 21 and CV 40.
For wide MF primes, I currently own CV 15, Loxia 21, Loxia 25, Loxia 35, CV 40. A CV 28 would gap perfectly for me between Loxia 21 and CV 40.
Feb 10, 2021 at 10:58 AM
p.3 #4Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
While I think I understand that 35mm is a FL prone to CA, subject isolation with f1.2 or f1.4 is more important for me at this FL.
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Feb 10, 2021 at 12:00 PM
p.3 #5Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
CV was 2 months late. Also I think most of us really wanted a 28 APO. That said, if it’s like the 50 it will probably be the perfect 35 minus af.
TakenWild wrote:
I’m old enough to remember all of us on here crying out for a decent 35mm. How the times have changed.
TakenWild wrote:
I’m old enough to remember all of us on here crying out for a decent 35mm. How the times have changed.
Feb 10, 2021 at 12:18 PM
p.3 #6Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
Justin Stone wrote:
CV was 2 months late. Also I think most of us really wanted a 28 APO. That said, if it’s like the 50 it will probably be the perfect 35 minus af.
It looks like Voigtlander believes 35mm sells way more than 28mm. Look at how many 35mm lenses they have now! The CV 35/2 Ultron (VM) was released 2 years ago and they already have a version II in the works.
IMO, it would make more sense to release a 28mm lens as this FL is lacking for the Sony E-mount. Also Leica could get some competition to their overpriced 28mm lenses.
CV was 2 months late. Also I think most of us really wanted a 28 APO. That said, if it’s like the 50 it will probably be the perfect 35 minus af.
TakenWild wrote
I’m old enough to remember all of us on here crying out for a decent 35mm. How the times have changed.It looks like Voigtlander believes 35mm sells way more than 28mm. Look at how many 35mm lenses they have now! The CV 35/2 Ultron (VM) was released 2 years ago and they already have a version II in the works.
IMO, it would make more sense to release a 28mm lens as this FL is lacking for the Sony E-mount. Also Leica could get some competition to their overpriced 28mm lenses.
Feb 10, 2021 at 01:39 PM
p.3 #7Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
I will still keep my 35 1.8. This CV will be my Guy kit along with my Laowa 14 and maybe grab a Loxia 21 or something.
Feb 10, 2021 at 01:43 PM
p.3 #8Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
My thinking is that the lack of 28mm is due to the large selection of 24/25mm lenses and the ability to crop on today's high megapixel bodies. Even with a 24 megapixel full frame sensor, it's plenty to crop to 28mm FOV for most purposes. . . . I also think the modern sensibility is to prefer a bit wider than traditionally. Also, the iPhone is a 26mm FOV for the standard, wider lens, still wider than 28mm.
I've always really "seen" well with a 28mm, but would have a hard time justifying the purchase of one today when I own both the 24mm GM and the 20mm G, and have an A7RIV for cropping.
Fred Miranda wrote:
It looks like Voigtlander believes 35mm sells way more than 28mm. Look at how many 35mm lenses they have now! The CV 35/2 Ultron (VM) was released 2 years ago and they already have a version II in the works.
IMO, it would make more sense to release a 28mm lens as this FL is lacking for the Sony E-mount. Also Leica could get some competition to their overpriced 28mm lenses.
I've always really "seen" well with a 28mm, but would have a hard time justifying the purchase of one today when I own both the 24mm GM and the 20mm G, and have an A7RIV for cropping.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Justin Stone wrote
CV was 2 months late. Also I think most of us really wanted a 28 APO. That said, if it’s like the 50 it will probably be the perfect 35 minus af.TakenWild wrote
I’m old enough to remember all of us on here crying out for a decent 35mm. How the times have changed.IMO, it would make more sense to release a 28mm lens as this FL is lacking for the Sony E-mount. Also Leica could get some competition to their overpriced 28mm lenses.
Feb 10, 2021 at 02:49 PM
p.3 #9Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
Sooner or later I will be in, but the GM might come first. A few months ago we were all complaining about the lack of a true good 35mm and here we are. I still miss a fine 28mm, though, and hope somebody (sigma?) will do it one of these days.
Feb 10, 2021 at 03:43 PM
p.3 #10Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
httivals wrote:
My thinking is that the lack of 28mm is due to the large selection of 24/25mm lenses and the ability to crop on today's high megapixel bodies. Even with a 24 megapixel full frame sensor, it's plenty to crop to 28mm FOV for most purposes. . . . I also think the modern sensibility is to prefer a bit wider than traditionally. Also, the iPhone is a 26mm FOV for the standard, wider lens, still wider than 28mm.
I've always really "seen" well with a 28mm, but would have a hard time justifying the purchase of one today when I own...Show more →
It looks like Voigtlander believes 35mm sells way more than 28mm. Look at how many 35mm lenses they have now! The CV 35/2 Ultron (VM) was released 2 years ago and they already have a version II in the works.
IMO, it would make more sense to release a 28mm lens as this FL is lacking for the Sony E-mount. Also Leica could get some competition to their overpriced 28mm lenses.
It's interesting that the Q/Q2 shipped with the wider lens and plenty of resolution to spare; making it pleasant to crop to 35mm. Honestly, I greatly prefer that approach. 24mm is too wide for general use for me. I've really tried living with 24mm a couple times in the last decade – first with Nikon's 24/1.4 and then with the GM – but it just didn't click for me.
My thinking is that the lack of 28mm is due to the large selection of 24/25mm lenses and the ability to crop on today's high megapixel bodies. Even with a 24 megapixel full frame sensor, it's plenty to crop to 28mm FOV for most purposes. . . . I also think the modern sensibility is to prefer a bit wider than traditionally. Also, the iPhone is a 26mm FOV for the standard, wider lens, still wider than 28mm.
I've always really "seen" well with a 28mm, but would have a hard time justifying the purchase of one today when I own...Show more →
Fred Miranda wrote
Justin Stone wrote
CV was 2 months late. Also I think most of us really wanted a 28 APO. That said, if it’s like the 50 it will probably be the perfect 35 minus af.TakenWild wrote
I’m old enough to remember all of us on here crying out for a decent 35mm. How the times have changed.IMO, it would make more sense to release a 28mm lens as this FL is lacking for the Sony E-mount. Also Leica could get some competition to their overpriced 28mm lenses.
It's interesting that the Q/Q2 shipped with the wider lens and plenty of resolution to spare; making it pleasant to crop to 35mm. Honestly, I greatly prefer that approach. 24mm is too wide for general use for me. I've really tried living with 24mm a couple times in the last decade – first with Nikon's 24/1.4 and then with the GM – but it just didn't click for me.
Feb 10, 2021 at 03:46 PM
p.3 #11Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
35mm lenses are huge sellers, always have been, to the point where they are usually bracketed with 50mm lenses when new ranges are announced. So this 35mm and the recent faster 35mm lens move them more into the mainstream for Sony.
APO lenses are hard to design and expensive to make - APO is QA'd on the Cosina assembly line. Cosina made a rod for their own back by including the round f2.8 aperture and offering the 50/2 at such an affordable price level. They should have asked Loxia 21mm prices ($1499)! It was an ambitious idea made into a lens, a celebration item that users either loved or hated. It's doubtful Cosina have expectations of high sales volumes, for any of their lenses.
The worlds of autofocus and manual focus are drifting apart faster than ever before. The camera makers will deliver something that resembles an AI-directed video game quite soon, 40-50 fps and other nifty distractions. With many fewer AF/MF crossover users as older guys are forced to give it away, the young guys will scratch their heads and ask: how can I be expected to focus this thing?
That's why some of us really want Cosina to finish the range; these lenses will endure for decades with an occasional CLA. They are likely to be the last maker of high end manual focus lenses for mainstream use.
APO lenses are hard to design and expensive to make - APO is QA'd on the Cosina assembly line. Cosina made a rod for their own back by including the round f2.8 aperture and offering the 50/2 at such an affordable price level. They should have asked Loxia 21mm prices ($1499)! It was an ambitious idea made into a lens, a celebration item that users either loved or hated. It's doubtful Cosina have expectations of high sales volumes, for any of their lenses.
The worlds of autofocus and manual focus are drifting apart faster than ever before. The camera makers will deliver something that resembles an AI-directed video game quite soon, 40-50 fps and other nifty distractions. With many fewer AF/MF crossover users as older guys are forced to give it away, the young guys will scratch their heads and ask: how can I be expected to focus this thing?
That's why some of us really want Cosina to finish the range; these lenses will endure for decades with an occasional CLA. They are likely to be the last maker of high end manual focus lenses for mainstream use.
Feb 10, 2021 at 05:35 PM
p.3 #13Who wants a 35mm Apo Lanthar?
Honestly, I think I'll stick with my 40/1.2. I have not been impressed with the photos in the thread dealing with the 50 APO, as opposed to the 110 APO, which looks fantastic to me.
Feb 12, 2021 at 10:56 AM