p.2 #1 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
Based on present data, thinking we'll pass on the R5 for some time.
For the price difference, they should've included the super cool next-gen 1DXmkIII joystick. But in time, the R5 will come down dramtically. When they drop about 25% it'll be a good time to pick up one.
Two of our shooters use 1DXmkII's and we're used to working with the 20mp files. Gotta nail your in-camera cropping more, but that's a much needed challange many photographers need.
p.2 #2 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
LeeSimms wrote:
Based on present data, thinking we'll pass on the R5 for some time.
For the price difference, they should've included the super cool next-gen 1DXmkIII joystick. But in time, the R5 will come down dramtically. When they drop about 25% it'll be a good time to pick up one.
I agree with the price point, right now. The R5 is at a premium and should come down in price. The R2 will also come out in a year or so and still support that 30mp sensor with the dual cards and upgrades, that will be a great body. For now, the R6 will make a great equal camera for weddings and commercial work leaving the C cams for video.
They can't put all the bells on the R5 and take away the few remaining sales with the 1Dx3. The 1Dx3 is still an amazing camera for those that do not want to make the jump from ef to RF.
p.2 #3 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
> and take away the few remaining sales with the 1Dx3
Hard to imagine anyone wanting a brick (1Dx, D6) and switching to a short body mirrorless. Totally different experience. If you're a brick shooter, you know it.
p.2 #5 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
I second shot a wedding last weekend, main photog was a single body shooter and had two R5's. Let me shoot on the second one. It's certainly a capable camera, but does struggle in lower light. Granted it's ISO range is a bit nuts for it's megapixel count. The images are beautiful, but having to up the ISO as often as I did (venue lighting was horrible) had me contemplating the R6. So I ended up pulling the trigger on the R6, should be here next week. I've shot 1Dx2's for a while, so I figured the R6 would complement my shooting style. I don't tend to crop much at all. Anyways, that's the hope, and I look forward to the images other's that have received theirs begin to display!
p.2 #7 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
What I hope to find out in the next couple of weeks of shooting ...
1) Have they fixed the EVF 'freeze' I experienced shooting weddings with the EOS R? If so, how fast do your SD cards need to be before you experience it again (we have a range of cards to test)
2) During a wedding, how bad is the battery suck? Based on what I've read, if you use Eye tracking AF and IBIS, you can count on using 4 batteries during a day. That's what we're preparing for.
3) How good is the new 24-105? Reviewers are saying it's as sharp and contrasty as the EF 24-70L II (hard to believe).
Two frustrations (no doubt related to Covid supply lines) — you can't get an EF to R adaptor (regular or control ring) through usual channels at the moment. All sold out, and we don't have one so no EF shooting this week. Also, the new stronger batteries are not availble on their own, so you're stuck using the old ones for MarkIV, etc.
p.2 #9 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
We shot four events over the holiday weekend with an R6 and an R 24-105L, plus an EF adaptor (thanks to Mike's Camera in Boulder for pulling some strings to get us one). Three of our photographers used it over the weekend. I only shot with it for about six hours (one small wedding and parts of other days).
First, answering my earlier questions ...
1) The EVF does not freeze or blackout. I got 300-speed SanDisk cards that are likely overkill for stills shooting, but I am not sure how fast your cards need to be rapid-fire shooting. Still playing with a range of cards.
2) Battery life is better than anticipated. Long weddings are a 3 battery day (not the 4 we charged per event)
3) The RF 24-105L is wedding-worthy. I tried both of the EF versions in previous years and they were never to my liking, but this one's a keeper. Past 75mm it does lose a bit of sharpness and contrast, but wide to normal length the images look like the EF 24-70L II shooting at ƒ4. This will be a perfect second-shooter and emergency mid-zoom for us. The zoom ring is stiff out of the box but it'll get loose in time.
Overall, the R6 is a killer event camera. The AF is inspiring, and you'll enjoy shooting drunk dancing and wedding action more than ever before. The files edit like D750 files, with a stop or two of cleaner high ISO noise.
THE GREAT
> Next-level auto focus. Extremely accurate, works well in low light (even with ƒ2.8 and ƒ4 zooms) with AF points from edge to edge. Like going from a dirt road to a perfectly paved super hiway. Eye tracking works well even in awful light (aided with faster primes), a particular benefit to reception dance party shots. Improved joystick with speed control allows you to get to the point you want, quickly. Press the “SET” button and the point returns to the center. Genius.
> Manual focus peaking and focus aid makes quick work of rings, details shots
> Super sharp & punchy 20mp files that fly through the computer.
> Low noise and improved color fidelity at High ISO. 25,000 shooting is an (emergency) reality now.
> Very quiet and luxurious sounding mechanical shutter with anti-flicker. Full silent electronic shutter on-demand (but you give up anti-flicker and ability to use flash).
> Legacy EF lens support is excellent and with some lenses (85L 1.4) the added ’tube’ adaptor actually aids handling.
THE GOOD
> Nice size/weight and ergonomics.
> EVF is a nice balance of resolution and frame-rate. EVF shooting does take a while to get use to, but this camera is a great place to start.
> Battery life (even with legacy batteries) is better than anticipated, but NEVER be without a spare in your bag or pocket. It will run out at the worst moment.
THE BAD
> The eyepiece/viewfinder is not a high point design type, and is dark shooting in daylight with eyeglasses. I’m assuming the R5 is nicer for eyeglass shooters.
> Canon 430RT keeps coming out of locked position and won’t fire (control off-camera lights) properly. CPS has been notified and I’ve been asked to provide more in-the-field reports to them.
> Unless you regularly shoot video with super-fast cards, you'll be buying new SD's (300 speed) to give the camera the data rate it needs to 'settle down' the EVF
> The cost of the R6 body is probably $500 more than it should be (compared to Nikon and Sony offerings)
> Short (or no) supply of accessories (or the camera itself). Blame it on Covid.
To date, I had auditioned (at weddings) the EOS R, a7II, a7III and various Olympus and Panasonic m43 bodies. The R6 is the first mirrorless camera I want to shoot with and I could easily see owning a fleet of them.
p.2 #10 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
LeeSimms wrote:
We shot four events over the holiday weekend with an R6 and an R 24-105L, plus an EF adaptor (thanks to Mike's Camera in Boulder for pulling some strings to get us one). Three of our photographers used it over the weekend. I only shot with it for about six hours (one small wedding and parts of other days).
First, answering my earlier questions ...
1) The EVF does not freeze or blackout. I got 300-speed SanDisk cards that are likely overkill for stills shooting, but I am not sure how fast your cards need to be rapid-fire shooting. Still playing with a range of cards.
2) Battery life is better than anticipated. Long weddings are a 3 battery day (not the 4 we charged per event)
3) The RF 24-105L is wedding-worthy. I tried both of the EF versions in previous years and they were never to my liking, but this one's a keeper. Past 75mm it does lose a bit of sharpness and contrast, but wide to normal length the images look like the EF 24-70L II shooting at ƒ4. This will be a perfect second-shooter and emergency mid-zoom for us. The zoom ring is stiff out of the box but it'll get loose in time.
Overall, the R6 is a killer event camera. The AF is inspiring, and you'll enjoy shooting drunk dancing and wedding action more than ever before. The files edit like D750 files, with a stop or two of cleaner high ISO noise.
LOVE — Having accurate and -6 sensitive AF points all over the screen and a fast (!) joystick to get where you want quickly. The joystick is night and day over the 5D and 7D series. Plus, anytime you want to get back to the middle just press the SET button and snap, you're back to square one.
LOVE — Eye-tracking — it. just. works.
LOVE — Canon's MF peaking and focus tools. Shooting details and rings is so easy.
LOVE — How fast the files fly through the computer
LOVE — Canon added a THUMBWHEEL (just like my old Nikons) so now you have 4 exposure input points (Command Wheel, Trigger Finger Wheel, Lens Command Wheel and now the Thumbwheel). This opens the door to mastering Canon's compelling Fv shooting mode, which is like a Program mode with instant override of aperture, shutter, ISO, or exposure compensation. A new paradigm.
LOVE — The hushed sound of the mechanical shutter — much quieter than the 5DmkIV in quiet mode.
So far the only thing I don't like about the R6 is, in exposure simulation mode, the EVF in bright sun seems very dark. Still playing with settings.
To date, I had auditioned (at weddings) the EOS R, a7II, a7III and various Olympus and Panasonic m43 bodies. The R6 is the first mirrorless camera I want to shoot with and I could easily see owning a fleet of them.
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Your review covered absolutely everything I loved about using my R6 on this weekend’s weddings, only much more in depth and vastly more motivation! Now I want to go buy another one!
p.2 #11 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
I don't think we'll get another one until Spring 2021.
The 85 Macro won't ship until end of this season (replaces the 100L and 85L 1.4 for me), plus I want to see what Sigma and Tamron are gong to offer up for the RL mount.
p.2 #12 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
Shot another 6hr wedding with it last night — mostly with the R6 + 24-70L II (telephotos usually on 5D4) but through reception coverage worked every lens I own through it. (16-35 III, 35L II, 85L 1.4, 135L, 100L, 70-200L 4, 50 Art)
I've gone from just blown away to a total evangelist for this camera. Trying to get a second R6 quickly (with a grip) and eyeing RF glass to avoid getting another adaptor.
p.2 #13 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
LeeSimms wrote:
Shot another 6hr wedding with it last night — mostly with the R6 + 24-70L II (telephotos usually on 5D4) but through reception coverage worked every lens I own through it. (16-35 III, 35L II, 85L 1.4, 135L, 100L, 70-200L 4, 50 Art)
I've gone from just blown away to a total evangelist for this camera. Trying to get a second R6 quickly (with a grip) and eyeing RF glass to avoid getting another adaptor.
Man you guys are making me pull out the credit card for this camera. I hate the weight of my 5Dmk4's and 70-200 2.8.
Is it worth waiting for any sales this year or would it be too early for them?
p.2 #14 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
Mareshalu wrote:
Man you guys are making me pull out the credit card for this camera. I hate the weight of my 5Dmk4's and 70-200 2.8.
Is it worth waiting for any sales this year or would it be too early for them?
I'm not laughing at you I promise. I use to shoot weddings with dual 1Dx2's....two swinging bricks on my hips for 8-12 hours. Not to mention the bruises that showed up the next day!
p.2 #15 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
LeeSimms wrote:
Shot another 6hr wedding with it last night — mostly with the R6 + 24-70L II (telephotos usually on 5D4) but through reception coverage worked every lens I own through it. (16-35 III, 35L II, 85L 1.4, 135L, 100L, 70-200L 4, 50 Art)
I've gone from just blown away to a total evangelist for this camera. Trying to get a second R6 quickly (with a grip) and eyeing RF glass to avoid getting another adaptor.
Right! I've even considered selling my 1Dx2 (it's my baby) for another R6....Not sure I'm ready to actually pull that trigger, but the thought has crossed my mind.
p.2 #16 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
JRobertson wrote:
I absolutely agree! The R5 is garnering the vast majority of attention, but it's a videographer's camera first and NOT a photographer's camera first. The tech that the R6 contains, equal to the R5, is amazing. I'm trying VERY hard to wait for full, unbiased reviews, before deciding...I'm slowly failing. I can feel it!
The R6 and R5 are photography first and foremost, with lots of video capability. A C300 would be a videographer's camera.
p.2 #17 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
I switched from SanDisk ExtremePro 300's to Sony Tough 300/299 cards. The Sony's seem to have an edge and clear up any lingering EVF issues — especially on playback.
Canon shooters for years have had the ability to 'blast' through a wedding playback to see if you got a specific shot. Scrolling the wheel, the images fly by (my Nikon friends tell me their cameras can do this) and you can review throusands of photos in seconds. Mirrorless has a problem keeping up with that kind of data but the Sony Tough's seem up to the task.
I'm tempted to try a pair of Angelbirds everyone's talking about.
p.2 #19 · Canon R6 seems to be geared towards a Wedding Photographer?
Forgive me, a typo on my part. CAN'T do this.
Fun bunch? It's a practical thing. Two photographers eating dinner coming together at a wedding after shooting 2-4 hours seperately. "Did you get a photo of the guest book?" "I dunno, let me scroll back."
I hate the weight of my 5Dmk4's and 70-200 2.8.