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Archive 2020 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)

  
 
Jannik Peters
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p.11 #1 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


I've actually bought a 100-400 GM and shot it side by side with the Sigma 100-400 that I will return today. Will write an article about it anyways, maybe next week. I'm quite busy until then, so don't expect anything until then.


Jul 24, 2020 at 01:48 AM
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p.11 #2 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


Congratulations

Jannik Peters wrote:
I've actually bought a 100-400 GM and shot it side by side with the Sigma 100-400 that I will return today. Will write an article about it anyways, maybe next week. I'm quite busy until then, so don't expect anything until then.



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Jul 24, 2020 at 02:06 AM
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p.11 #3 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


We still don’t know what Tamron will come up with or when.


Jul 24, 2020 at 06:59 AM
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p.11 #4 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


To verify or quantify the battery drain of the sigma 100 - 400 I compared the lens to the only OS lens I have, the Sony 100 mm STF and the manual only Voigtländer 40/1,2. I hear the same internal noise on the 100 mm STF whether OS is on or off.

Battery charge left (tested with the same battery on A7iii with monitor on): after 30 minutes
CV 40/1,2 99%
100 STF OS on 96%
100 STF OS off 97%
100 - 400 OS 1 96 %
100 - 400 OS 2 96 %
100 - 400 OS off 95 %

I can´t see any exessive or even increased discharge of the battery by the OS of the sigma 100 - 400



Jul 24, 2020 at 07:35 AM
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p.11 #5 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


I know it's kinda apples and oranges, but I'd love to see a comparo between this lens and the 70-200G.


Jul 24, 2020 at 08:25 AM
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p.11 #6 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


Can you share your reasons as to why? I guess it's the disconnect + battery drain? Or something wrong optically (you mentioned field curvature @400)...
I'm happy with mine, also wasn't able to replicate battery drain issue but I need to test more .

Jannik Peters wrote:
I've actually bought a 100-400 GM and shot it side by side with the Sigma 100-400 that I will return today. Will write an article about it anyways, maybe next week. I'm quite busy until then, so don't expect anything until then.




Jul 24, 2020 at 10:27 AM
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p.11 #7 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


Those of you in the US who have received this lens already, where did you order from and how long did you have to wait? Planning a trip for second half of August and debating whether I should take the plunge...


Jul 25, 2020 at 02:04 PM
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p.11 #8 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


I talked to Glazer's Camera in Seattle and they had it in stock to ship the next day but decided to not get it before leaving tomorrow. That was on Wednesday.

ML312 wrote:
Those of you in the US who have received this lens already, where did you order from and how long did you have to wait? Planning a trip for second half of August and debating whether I should take the plunge...




Jul 25, 2020 at 06:57 PM
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p.11 #9 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


Got mine from Allen's Cameras. They have it in stock still it seems. Not sure their return policy is as good as B&H if you're on the fence. I knew this was a keeper for me given cost, size, focal range, and the initial reviews baring any mechanical issues but YMMV.


Jul 25, 2020 at 07:22 PM
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p.11 #10 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


I think I have to debunk my initial impression of any battery drain, I've just finished a morning walk photo session :
* around 55 minutes in total, I turned the camera off when I had longer break between photos, IS 1 for all but a few photos
* 100 photos
* 1 min 4k vid
* battery went from 100% to 86%
So looks pretty normal to me...
On the other hand, I had some issues shooting sitting ducks () at 400mm, need to see the photos on a normal screen (on vacation currently) but seems most of them are a bit front focused ...
Edit again: ok, looked them up on my phone and they don't look that bad (last photos) :
https://janu.smugmug.com/Sigma100-400/n-FzszhV



Jul 26, 2020 at 05:07 AM
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p.11 #11 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


B&H told me they expect to have it in stock beginning of next week. Fired off an order, fingers crossed it shows up in time and is not a lemon.


Jul 26, 2020 at 03:52 PM
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p.11 #12 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


Did anyone try ordering from Greentoe?


Jul 27, 2020 at 01:41 PM
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p.11 #13 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


About converters:
Sigma Japan's response to my email. It is sony who does not give information for converters 1.4 & 2.

Über Konverter:
Sigma Japans Antwort auf meine E-Mail. Es ist Sony, der keine Informationen für die Konverter 1.4 & 2 gibt.

Au sujet des convertisseurs :
Réponse de Sigma Japan à mon mail. C'est sony qui ne donne pas informations pour les convertisseurs 1.4 & 2.
Dear Mr.

First of all, we are so sorry for our late reply.
Thank you very much for purchasing our newly-released 100-400mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS Contemporary.
Regarding your question on the teleconverter for Sony E mount, yes, your question is quite understandable.
As you noticed, yes, we released a new TELE CONVERTER TC-1411/2011 for L-mount camera, but not for Sony E-mount camera, which must be unreasonable for you.
As you may already know, we are licensed from Sony to design and produce Sony E-mount lenses, and it must be done in accordance with Sony E-mount specifications and license agreement.
In the specifications and agreement, there are no statements on teleconverters. So, this is why we cannot design and produce Sony-E mount teleconverters.
So, at this point, we have no concrete plan and schedule for making TELE CONVERTER TC-1411 in Sony E-mount.

We are so sorry we are letting you down. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Again, thank you very much for being our customer. Have a great weekend!Best regards,
SIGMA CORPORATION
Customer Support Department



Jul 31, 2020 at 10:37 AM
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p.11 #14 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


I am by far not qualified to comment on the optical quality of this lens, however having played around with it today for a bit, the OIS is impressive. At 400mm on my A6400 I was barely able to hand hold and get what I thought would be a decent shot. Not even trying, and with a half press of the shutter, there was no movement on the screen.

The one thing I did notice is to be sure you have the focus limit switch in the appropriate position. Focus will be slow and unreliable. Once I set it to 6m-infinity it was very snappy.

I think I am going to like this lens a lot and I love the reach.

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Jul 31, 2020 at 07:31 PM
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p.11 #15 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


Some handhold landscapes.Either wide open or f8.

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Aug 02, 2020 at 01:22 AM
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p.11 #16 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


Sharpness compared to GM ?


Aug 02, 2020 at 02:24 AM
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nandadevieast wrote:
Sharpness compared to GM ?


Honestly,I have not noticed any significant differences in sharpness between Sig and GM,when I tried them out.GM is probably a bit contrastier,but in real life pictures it is difficult to tell them apart.

GM is sturdier,slightly faster,has better mfd for closeups and tripod mount.I am not a zoom fan and use them rather seldom. Very decent IQ,small size,solid built and efficient IS are the four most important factors for me.Sigma has them all.

If I were using zooms mostly,or want to stay with one zoom for long, I would probably go for GM Sony,though





Aug 02, 2020 at 06:25 AM
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p.11 #18 · Pre-order: Sigma 100-400/5-6.3 DG DN OS FE ($949!)


@nandadevieast : I am not sure that many forum readers would have both lenses and could compare these directly.
Dustin Abbott and Gordon Laing have done comparisons and, in terms of sharpness, these 2 lenses are very close.
I think the main differences are : 1/ AF performance (GM is superior, although, according to Dustin Abbott, FE version of Sigma is now much snappier than the DSLR version)
2/ Teleconverter (support or lack of)
3/ Minimum focus distance (GM has an edge here)
Whether these 3 topics do matter for your photography type is what's important but IMHO I don't see sharpness being a big differentiator in this case.
FWIW, I've tested the Sigma 100-400 at small distance and it's very close to the Voigtlander 110 (I've found that the Sigma had more vivid colors).
I've not done yet shots at infinity so cannot comment on this (but Gordon and Dustin did).
The GM has also a slight better build quality (not a top criteria for me as this Sigma - while not labelled "Art" - is well-enough built).



Aug 02, 2020 at 07:45 AM
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@nandadevieast : I am not sure if many forum readers would have both lenses and could compare these directly.
Dustin Abbott and Gordon Laing have done comparisons and, in terms of sharpness, these 2 lenses are very close.
I think the main differences are : 1/ AF performance (GM is superior, although, according to Dustin Abbott, FE version of Sigma is now much snappier than the DSLR version)
2/ Teleconverter (support or lack of)
3/ Minimum focus distance (GM has an edge here)
Whether these 3 topics do matter for your photography type is what's important but IMHO I don't see sharpness being a big differentiator in this case.
FWIW, I've tested the Sigma 100-400 at small distance and it's very close to the Voigtlander 110 (I've found that the Sigma had more vivid colors).
I've not done yet shots at infinity so cannot comment on this (but Gordon and Dustin did).
The GM has also a slight better build quality (not a top criteria for me as this Sigma - while not labelled "Art" - is well-enough built).



Aug 02, 2020 at 07:47 AM
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nicephore wrote:
@nandadevieast@ : I am not sure if many forum readers would have both lenses and could compare these directly.
Dustin Abbott and Gordon Laing have done comparisons and, in terms of sharpness, these 2 lenses are very close.
I think the main differences are : 1/ AF performance (GM is superior, although, according to Dustin Abbott, FE version of Sigma is now much snappier than the DSLR version)
2/ Teleconverter (support or lack of)
3/ Minimum focus distance (GM has an edge here)
Whether these 3 topics do matter for your photography type is what's important but IMHO I don't see sharpness being a
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I've recently acquired this lens and as an amateur I'm quite satisfied with its optical performance, handling, weight and overall looks. When I was considering whether to go with 2x times dearer Sony GM lens or this recently introduced Sigma, after reading some reviews online (the 2 main sources you've mentioned already and after comparing pros and cons I came back to the start point - and the main reason many others like myself who shoot for fun, joy and even semi-professional/serious enough goals might choose Sigma instead - and this very start (an end) point is the PRICE. Yes, the price is the main decisive factor in play here IMHO. I spent $1000, but saved another grand to be spent for the Sony 24-105mm G lens in the near future.

Naturally, if the budget allows it, go and grab Sony 100-400mm GM, hands down long term better alternative, mostly if you plan to use it as a professional in different kind of environments. But is it $1000 better than Sigma, especially optically? I don't think it is. If the overall difference was perhaps in realm of somewhere under $500, I'd be thinking very hard which glass to choose. Anyway, performance-cost ratio is a winner in case of Sigma, as simple as that. I have also 5 year warranty running with it, so that's a nice bonus added as well

Perhaps the only downside I could observe so far is the already mentioned (by some other users in the thread) slight humming inside the lens when OS is on (be it setting 1 or 2), even when the lens doesn't do anything. Can be heard with ear glued to the lens. Couldn't see any extra battery drain after a few sessions though. The lack of tripod collar is not an obstacle for my use in landscape scenarios, since I use somewhat cumbersome, but very useful gadget that helps to keep the lens very stable (with OS off while sitting on a sturdy tripod), it's called Andoer L200 Telephoto Lens Support. When shooting handheld (small birds, insects. plants, etc.), Sigma is easy enough to handle and use, too.

Anyway, in the end Sigma 100-400mm DG DN is a very capable piece of glass and surely will find its place amongst many happy shooters out there And if Tamron can surprise us with their similar range oriented lens in the near future, the choice will become even more interesting!



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