So here we are half-way into the not so wonderful year of 2020 and supposedly both the R5 and R6 are about to be officially announced.
Or are they?
We have seen the "pre-announcement" months ago of the R5, so we know it's real and most of the rumored specs have been confirmed.
But what about this mysterious R6 that has everyone scratching their heads over the 20mp sensor on a MILC body in 2020?
We actually don't have ANY confirmed specs or "pre-announcment" of anything related to this rumored body.
How can they release both the R5 and R6 in July with such a drastic difference of confirmed specs of the R5 vs vague rumors of the R6.
If you look at websites such as B&H, they have had the R5 listed for some time now, but not the R6.
Has Canon ever confirmed the existence of the R6 in anyway?
So what's the deal on this R6? Is this thing even real or has the rumor mill simply made it appear that it is? aka "fake news" that eventually becomes looked upon as fact.
If it is real, which I want to think it is, are we simply going to get an official announcement this month but it won't actually be released until Q4 2020? Where as the R5 is officially announced this month and released in July?
Something just doesn't seem right to me. Or perhaps it's just my impatience blurring my vision.
lighthound wrote:
So here we are half-way into the not so wonderful year of 2020 and supposedly both the R5 and R6 are about to be officially announced.
Or are they?
We have seen the "pre-announcement" months ago of the R5, so we know it's real and most of the rumored specs have been confirmed.
But what about this mysterious R6 that has everyone scratching their heads over the 20mp sensor on a MILC body in 2020?
We actually don't have ANY confirmed specs or "pre-announcment" of anything related to this rumored body.
How can they release both the R5 and R6 in July with such a drastic difference of confirmed specs of the R5 vs vague rumors of the R6.
If you look at websites such as B&H, they have had the R5 listed for some time now, but not the R6.
Has Canon ever confirmed the existence of the R6 in anyway?
So what's the deal on this R6? Is this thing even real or has the rumor mill simply made it appear that it is? aka "fake news" that eventually becomes looked upon as fact.
If it is real, which I want to think it is, are we simply going to get an official announcement this month but it won't actually be released until Q4 2020? Where as the R5 is officially announced this month and released in July?
Something just doesn't seem right to me. Or perhaps it's just my impatience blurring my vision. ...Show more →
Why couldn't the R6 come out at the same time?
Do you think Canon doesn't have the fire power to launch 2 cameras that share the same platform? My guess, and it's only a guess is that the 6 would have ZERO tech that's not already in the R5 only way dummied down to produce a cheap entry level starter camera just like the 6D did.
ALL the R&D has been done for the R5, it just has to be dummied dowm. Like the 6D it probably has tons of bells and whistles to attract its target market like the 6D did but those are easy, mostly all firmware. It just has to be repackaged!! Should be easy!
John
Let's speculate about speculations! How exciting!!!
Just assume any device that is scheduled for this year will be produced in smaller quantities than normal, will be harder to find than normal, and will probably be a bit more expensive than normal.
In the absence of any new announcements, specs, news, or whispers, thoughts like this could and should be confined to existing rumor threads.
Not speculating at all Scott. I'm asking a legitimate question. Is this R6 real? Where are the confirmed specs at this point like we've seen for the R5? I've not seen any other Canon body rolled out like this before. Have you?
I'm not concerned with production levels, availability or price. Especially if this body doesn't even exist.
"confined to existing rumor threads" ? Really? We need to ask you for permission to ask such questions outside an existing "rumor" thread? Why is that? Is the Canon forum overloaded with new threads such that you're having a hard time keeping up or something?
Where were you policing all the redundant R5 threads?
RE: 20MP
This is probably just wishful thinking, and I have no information... but what if the 20MP rumor originated from someone who knew it would have 20MP video (AKA 6K) as, for example, a 1.23x crop from say a 30MP sensor?
JohnSil wrote:
Why couldn't the R6 come out at the same time?
Do you think Canon doesn't have the fire power to launch 2 cameras that share the same platform? My guess, and it's only a guess is that the 6 would have ZERO tech that's not already in the R5 only way dummied down to produce a cheap entry level starter camera just like the 6D did.
ALL the R&D has been done for the R5, it just has to be dummied dowm. Like the 6D it probably has tons of bells and whistles to attract its target market like the 6D did but those are easy, mostly all firmware. It just has to be repackaged!! Should be easy!
John...Show more →
I'm not saying they don't have the fire power at all. They've released numerous bodies simultaneously before and I see no reason why they couldn't do now. For all intents and purposes, we are led to believe they are going to, but where are the confirmed specs like we have on the R5? Why isn't the R6 listed on retailers websites like the R5 is?
My question is, if the R6 is real where the heck are the confirmed specs at this late in the game. If they are both being released at the same time it just strikes me as very odd that it is so lop-sided. I've never seen this type of roll-out before so it has me questioning the entire thing at this point.
IDK, I guess I'll blame it on my COVID-19 GAS issue.
I just tried to set-up a "Notify When Available" on the B&H website for this new “DS126831" Canon body but I couldn't find it listed anywhere for some reason.
IDK, I guess it's just me that finds this strange.
Two bodies about to be announced, one we know almost everything about, the other we know absolutely nothing other than rumors that seem to make no sense.
First off, No, Canon has never said anything about an R6.
Things that lend credence to the R6 rumor is that it came about in the same original rumor about the R5. That R5 rumor (ranked CR3 at the time), turned out to almost be 100% correct (but not everything was correct). The first R5 teaser announcement happened shortly after the rumor came out. Also there is the second body that was certified as mentioned above.
However, from the very first rumor it still never made any sense to me. The rumor said the R5 would be pre-announced shortly (which is was) and then the R6 would be announced/released in May and the R5 would be fully announced and released in July. Why would one pre-announce a camera and then before even releasing it release another exciting camera with no pre-announcement?? Just always seemed like a strange sequence of rumored events.
I also don't think they will just tack on the R6 to the super-hyped R5 announcement, nor do I think the R6 will be announced in June before the R5. But who knows...crazier things have happened
arbitrage wrote:
First off, No, Canon has never said anything about an R6.
Things that lend credence to the R6 rumor is that it came about in the same original rumor about the R5. That R5 rumor (ranked CR3 at the time), turned out to almost be 100% correct (but not everything was correct). The first R5 teaser announcement happened shortly after the rumor came out. Also there is the second body that was certified as mentioned above.
However, from the very first rumor it still never made any sense to me. The rumor said the R5 would be pre-announced shortly (which is was) and then the R6 would be announced/released in May and the R5 would be fully announced and released in July. Why would one pre-announce a camera and then before even releasing it release another exciting camera with no pre-announcement?? Just always seemed like a strange sequence of rumored events.
I also don't think they will just tack on the R6 to the super-hyped R5 announcement, nor do I think the R6 will be announced in June before the R5. But who knows...crazier things have happened...Show more →
Exactly! Thank you! I'm relieved to know that I'm not alone in my thinking here.
I was starting to worry that I may have had too much "recreational" fun back in the late 70's or something and it was all just in my head.
If there is a $4K R5, there will have to be a less expensive, less optioned body as well, and it is very, very likely there will be an R6 (ie. the mirrorless version of a 6DIII).
TeamSpeed wrote:
If there is a $4K R5, there will have to be a less expensive, less optioned body as well, and it is very, very likely there will be an R6 (ie. the mirrorless version of a 6DIII).
I thought the cheapie body was the RP.
I just want a 30 MP body better than the rather low-grade R.
Some years ago there was that Psycho1 claiming a new camea was coming, but it didn't happen.
The R and RP were stop gap bodies to get the RF lens line rolling. The R5 and R6 will finally be the proper mirrorless baseline Canon needs at this point. Once the R goes below $1K, nobody will ever talk about the RP ever again.
arbitrage wrote:
First off, No, Canon has never said anything about an R6.
Things that lend credence to the R6 rumor is that it came about in the same original rumor about the R5. That R5 rumor (ranked CR3 at the time), turned out to almost be 100% correct (but not everything was correct). The first R5 teaser announcement happened shortly after the rumor came out. Also there is the second body that was certified as mentioned above.
However, from the very first rumor it still never made any sense to me. The rumor said the R5 would be pre-announced shortly (which is was) and then the R6 would be announced/released in May and the R5 would be fully announced and released in July. Why would one pre-announce a camera and then before even releasing it release another exciting camera with no pre-announcement?? Just always seemed like a strange sequence of rumored events.
I also don't think they will just tack on the R6 to the super-hyped R5 announcement, nor do I think the R6 will be announced in June before the R5. But who knows...crazier things have happened...Show more →
+1
NEWS FLASH:
R6 destined to steal sales away from R5 on Day 1.
Well, maybe not.
But, it does seem a bit peculiar to set things up for the R6 to steal some attention away from the R5. Seems like Canon typically "stages" things better than the rumor mill has regarding the timing.
Who knows ... maybe they are coming out bang-bang, to Shock & Awe the world (figuring the two markets will have little cross-over if the spread on MP is far enough apart).
That, or they're gonna run "bundled package" for those who buy BOTH an R5 (primary) & R6 (backup) ... helping to migrate things toward fast-tracking the RF mount adoption.
NEWS FLASH:
R6 destined to steal sales away from R5 on Day 1.
Well, maybe not.
But, it does seem a bit peculiar to set things up for the R6 to steal some attention away from the R5. Seems like Canon typically "stages" things better than the rumor mill has regarding the timing.
Who knows ... maybe they are coming out bang-bang, to Shock & Awe the world (figuring the two markets will have little cross-over if the spread on MP is far enough apart).
That, or they're gonna run "bundled package" for those who buy BOTH an R5 (primary) & R6 (backup) ... helping to migrate things toward fast-tracking the RF mount adoption. ...Show more →
If you want an R5, then a second R5 would be a better backup than a different body.
TeamSpeed wrote:
The R and RP were stop gap bodies to get the RF lens line rolling. The R5 and R6 will finally be the proper mirrorless baseline Canon needs at this point. Once the R goes below $1K, nobody will ever talk about the RP ever again.
I will! It's a great camera. It has almost the same focusing as the R. No touch bar. Small and compact. A cheap and cheerful introduction to the RF mount. There'll be photographers new to full frame, those who want a nice travel camera, and those who want to try out RF lenses without making a huge commitment to it.
You'd think nobody cares about the low end model, but they do. Look how many love the 6D when it was really just a cost reduced 5D2.
But I agree, the R and RP were basically the 5D4 and 6D2 minus the mirror box.
NEWS FLASH:
R6 destined to steal sales away from R5 on Day 1.
Well, maybe not.
But, it does seem a bit peculiar to set things up for the R6 to steal some attention away from the R5. Seems like Canon typically "stages" things better than the rumor mill has regarding the timing.
Who knows ... maybe they are coming out bang-bang, to Shock & Awe the world (figuring the two markets will have little cross-over if the spread on MP is far enough apart).
That, or they're gonna run "bundled package" for those who buy BOTH an R5 (primary) & R6 (backup) ... helping to migrate things toward fast-tracking the RF mount adoption....Show more →
Looks like there is going to be the flash and bang approach. Also looks like the R6 will have an entire month (could be up to 2 months) on the shelves ahead of the R5. I still think this was a crazy odd release with all the R5 buildup and not a word about the R6 beforehand.
lighthound wrote:
So here we are half-way into the not so wonderful year of 2020 and supposedly both the R5 and R6 are about to be officially announced.
Or are they?
We have seen the "pre-announcement" months ago of the R5, so we know it's real and most of the rumored specs have been confirmed.
But what about this mysterious R6 that has everyone scratching their heads over the 20mp sensor on a MILC body in 2020?
We actually don't have ANY confirmed specs or "pre-announcment" of anything related to this rumored body.
How can they release both the R5 and R6 in July with such a drastic difference of confirmed specs of the R5 vs vague rumors of the R6.
If you look at websites such as B&H, they have had the R5 listed for some time now, but not the R6.
Has Canon ever confirmed the existence of the R6 in anyway?
So what's the deal on this R6? Is this thing even real or has the rumor mill simply made it appear that it is? aka "fake news" that eventually becomes looked upon as fact.
If it is real, which I want to think it is, are we simply going to get an official announcement this month but it won't actually be released until Q4 2020? Where as the R5 is officially announced this month and released in July?
Something just doesn't seem right to me. Or perhaps it's just my impatience blurring my vision.
I don't know if I've ever pre-ordered anything. Besides, you've already got the 6D2 & 90D & those seem excellent. I pretty much ignore the rumors (most of the time.) Who knows? Especially now.
If they start selling it and you have the money and want one, there you go
But I don't see the reason it'd be hard to release a 20mp. I'd expect high speed if they did, not that I'd necessarily consider it low resolution if they didn't.
... helping to migrate things toward fast-tracking the RF mount adoption.