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Archive 2020Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
p.4 #1Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
To those that are wondering about the price, compare this to the Sony 90mm FE G Macro. I believe it's the same MSRP, and the aperture ring is a nice bonus for the landscape people. I think the price is fair, but it's really a question of focal length. Someone else mentioned that it's taking on the non-Sony 21's (Voigt, Loxia). It's not the focal length for me, so I won't be getting one, but the close focus on it looks super useful. I'm also looking forward to seeing people put this on APS-C--effectively will become the best native 28ish lens.
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:14 PM
p.4 #2Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:18 PM
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jhinkey wrote:
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Don't forget we need a macro one and an APO one too....
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Don't forget we need a macro one and an APO one too....
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:21 PM
p.4 #4Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
jhinkey wrote:
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Totally
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Totally
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:22 PM
p.4 #5Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
jhinkey wrote:
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Yes, three lenses per focal length is the limit. So you are still OK.
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Yes, three lenses per focal length is the limit. So you are still OK.
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:27 PM
p.4 #6Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
The Tokina Firin 20/2 AF and Nikon Z 20/1.8 are around same price.
I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.
I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:32 PM
p.4 #7Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
This Appears to be a lot of lens and features for the cash. Flatness of field, flare resistance, and mid field rendering appear to be without much of a verdict though at this albeit very early stage.
elimoss wrote:
The Tokina Firin 20/2 AF and Nikon Z 20/1.8 are around same price.
I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.
elimoss wrote:
The Tokina Firin 20/2 AF and Nikon Z 20/1.8 are around same price.
I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:40 PM
p.4 #8Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Justin Stone wrote:
This Appears to be a lot of lens and features for the cash. Flatness of field, flare resistance, and mid field rendering appear to be without much of a verdict though at this albeit very early stage.
I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.
Does it have low field curvature?
This Appears to be a lot of lens and features for the cash. Flatness of field, flare resistance, and mid field rendering appear to be without much of a verdict though at this albeit very early stage.
elimoss wrote
The Tokina Firin 20/2 AF and Nikon Z 20/1.8 are around same price.I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.
Does it have low field curvature?
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:51 PM
p.4 #9Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
jhinkey wrote:
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Sure it is. Heck I have more Wives than you have 20mm lenses. Wives cost way more...
Feb 25, 2020 at 12:58 PM
p.4 #10Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Not a big fan of the sunstars it produces, sadly: https://www.albertdros.com/single-post/2020/02/16/Sony-20mm-f18-Hands-On-Review-Albert-Dros
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:05 PM
p.4 #11Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Not sure i have ever really understood this focal length. Give me 16mm or 24mm.......20mm imo is in no mans land
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:17 PM
p.4 #12Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
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johnahill wrote:
I'd pay 1199CAD, it's 950 GBP here equivalent to 1236USD / 1642CAD
johnahill wrote:
KarmaKramer wrote
$1199Cdn....no chance.Feb 25, 2020 at 01:19 PM
p.4 #13Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, three lenses per focal length is the limit. So you are still OK.
Phew!
It looks like it has OK sun stars and OK flare/ghosting in the DPR images. The one pic inside the museum of flight with the sun star shows lots of ghosts, but that's likely pretty severe. There's another shot with the sun in the window without making a sun start and flare/contrast seems to hold up.
I would complain about there being no landscape-type shots with a blue sky and sun in the image, but that's a pretty rare thing in Seattle this time of year.
- J
Does DPR have amateur photogs stalking their employees around Seattle (and other locations) just to see what gear they are carrying? Whenever I see the more recognizable DPR staff around town, they never seem to be carrying camera gear, which makes me wonder if they are in disguise when out and about testing unannounced gear
jhinkey wrote
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?Phew!
It looks like it has OK sun stars and OK flare/ghosting in the DPR images. The one pic inside the museum of flight with the sun star shows lots of ghosts, but that's likely pretty severe. There's another shot with the sun in the window without making a sun start and flare/contrast seems to hold up.
I would complain about there being no landscape-type shots with a blue sky and sun in the image, but that's a pretty rare thing in Seattle this time of year.
- J
Does DPR have amateur photogs stalking their employees around Seattle (and other locations) just to see what gear they are carrying? Whenever I see the more recognizable DPR staff around town, they never seem to be carrying camera gear, which makes me wonder if they are in disguise when out and about testing unannounced gear
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:21 PM
p.4 #14Back On Sale: Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G lens for only $798 ($100 off)
If you can afford it? Of course! Nobody is promised tomorrow. Live today!
jhinkey wrote:
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
jhinkey wrote:
It's fine to have a slow (21CV/3.5), medium (21/2.8 Lox) and fast (20/1.8G) set of 20's - right?
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:22 PM
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Holger wrote:
Same,
I would have preferred a FE 20/1.8 G + 35/1.8 G set with similar optical characteristics and functionality.
Having that said, I still don't know how the new 20/1.8 G renders. Hoping it will be similar to the 24/1.4 GM's. Also no word on field curvature where the 24/1.4 GM is virtually flat field.Well bokeh doesn't look that bad...Looks nice!
However, all these samples are at close distance or MFD.
At close distance blur masks the focus transition zone. The real test will be at 2-3m distance.
The reviewer at dpreview wrote that rendering is similar to the FE 35/1.8 for the OOF off-axis area.
"Furthermore, we do see some bright-edged highlights as you approach outer edges of the frame, so we'd expect slightly busier bokeh at extremes of the frame, much like the Sony FE 35/1.8 lens."True. R. Sanyal is praising it.
"This lens has almost no detectable LoCA or fringing to speak of. This is pretty remarkable. Have a look above, sliding left to view feline hairs at 100%. Typically, backlit hairs will have magenta fringing and green fringing on hairs in front of, and behind, the plane of focus, respectively. But we see nothing of the sort."
https://www.dpreview.com/samples/2736959721/sony-fe-20mm-f1-8-g-initial-impressions-and-sample-gallery
It's an interesting first impression.
He writes "This lens has almost no detectable LoCA or fringing to speak of. That's pretty remarkable."
No detectable axial CA in a 20/1.8 lens...If that's really the case, it would be indeed remarkable.
Fred Miranda wrote
Holger wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
twentysevenone wrote
This was the lens I thought the 35/1.8 was going to be.I would have preferred a FE 20/1.8 G + 35/1.8 G set with similar optical characteristics and functionality.
Having that said, I still don't know how the new 20/1.8 G renders. Hoping it will be similar to the 24/1.4 GM's. Also no word on field curvature where the 24/1.4 GM is virtually flat field.
However, all these samples are at close distance or MFD.
At close distance blur masks the focus transition zone. The real test will be at 2-3m distance.
The reviewer at dpreview wrote that rendering is similar to the FE 35/1.8 for the OOF off-axis area.
"Furthermore, we do see some bright-edged highlights as you approach outer edges of the frame, so we'd expect slightly busier bokeh at extremes of the frame, much like the Sony FE 35/1.8 lens."
"This lens has almost no detectable LoCA or fringing to speak of. This is pretty remarkable. Have a look above, sliding left to view feline hairs at 100%. Typically, backlit hairs will have magenta fringing and green fringing on hairs in front of, and behind, the plane of focus, respectively. But we see nothing of the sort."
https://www.dpreview.com/samples/2736959721/sony-fe-20mm-f1-8-g-initial-impressions-and-sample-gallery
It's an interesting first impression.
He writes "This lens has almost no detectable LoCA or fringing to speak of. That's pretty remarkable."
No detectable axial CA in a 20/1.8 lens...If that's really the case, it would be indeed remarkable.
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:22 PM
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Jim Schemel wrote:
Not sure i have ever really understood this focal length. Give me 16mm or 24mm.......20mm imo is in no mans land
No mans land is relative to the other lenses you have.
I don't have a 24mm as I'm not a fan of that focal length.
I do have a 16mm fisheye and a 35 or 40mm prime, so 20 or 21mm is perfectly in between for me regarding FOV with 2x-ish multiples between adjacent lenses (which is my personal rule).
Not sure i have ever really understood this focal length. Give me 16mm or 24mm.......20mm imo is in no mans land
No mans land is relative to the other lenses you have.
I don't have a 24mm as I'm not a fan of that focal length.
I do have a 16mm fisheye and a 35 or 40mm prime, so 20 or 21mm is perfectly in between for me regarding FOV with 2x-ish multiples between adjacent lenses (which is my personal rule).
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:23 PM
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jhinkey wrote:
No mans land is relative to the other lenses you have.
I don't have a 24mm as I'm not a fan of that focal length.
I do have a 16mm fisheye and a 35 or 40mm prime, so 20 or 21mm is perfectly in between for me regarding FOV with 2x-ish multiples between adjacent lenses (which is my personal rule).
I really like 20mm for landscapes as it allows me to get closer to my subject and still get a very wide perspective without much distortion compared to ultra wides. My favorite lens is still the Loxia 21/2.8 but I'm happy there are so many options for this focal length now.
Jim Schemel wrote
Not sure i have ever really understood this focal length. Give me 16mm or 24mm.......20mm imo is in no mans landI don't have a 24mm as I'm not a fan of that focal length.
I do have a 16mm fisheye and a 35 or 40mm prime, so 20 or 21mm is perfectly in between for me regarding FOV with 2x-ish multiples between adjacent lenses (which is my personal rule).
I really like 20mm for landscapes as it allows me to get closer to my subject and still get a very wide perspective without much distortion compared to ultra wides. My favorite lens is still the Loxia 21/2.8 but I'm happy there are so many options for this focal length now.
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:27 PM
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matt-to wrote:
Not a big fan of the sunstars it produces, sadly: https://www.albertdros.com/single-post/2020/02/16/Sony-20mm-f18-Hands-On-Review-Albert-Dros
The stars in the night shots seem OK to me:
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/846d71_55ebaf31d1db412abd334b027f4058a5~mv2.png/v1/fill/w_263,h_240,al_c,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/846d71_55ebaf31d1db412abd334b027f4058a5~mv2.png
Not a big fan of the sunstars it produces, sadly: https://www.albertdros.com/single-post/2020/02/16/Sony-20mm-f18-Hands-On-Review-Albert-Dros
The stars in the night shots seem OK to me:
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/846d71_55ebaf31d1db412abd334b027f4058a5~mv2.png/v1/fill/w_263,h_240,al_c,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/846d71_55ebaf31d1db412abd334b027f4058a5~mv2.png
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:27 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.Does it have low field curvature?
Looks like it:
https://youtu.be/1-QM9WMzwUE?t=309
Justin Stone wrote
This Appears to be a lot of lens and features for the cash. Flatness of field, flare resistance, and mid field rendering appear to be without much of a verdict though at this albeit very early stage.elimoss wrote
The Tokina Firin 20/2 AF and Nikon Z 20/1.8 are around same price.I think this is pretty reasonable pricing from Sony, at least relative to Sony's usual pricing scheme.
Looks like it:
https://youtu.be/1-QM9WMzwUE?t=309
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:27 PM
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JayPhoto1 wrote:
Just sold my 28-75 and now have GM 24, CV 40 f1.2, and Sony 85 f1.8 as my small kit with the GM 135 available if additional reach is needed. This new 20mm f1.8 is tempting (GAS related) but I agree with the others that it might be too close to my GM 24 IMO.
How are you liking that small kit so far? Where my situation differs is I only have those two lenses 28-75 and sony 85 f1.8, so the wide end is completely open. The question is "Is 20mm too wide for wedding, event, portrait work?"
jag09 wrote
Have been going back and forth on whether or not to get the 24 GM to pair with the 85 f1.8. Looking to replace my 28-75 with just primes.How are you liking that small kit so far? Where my situation differs is I only have those two lenses 28-75 and sony 85 f1.8, so the wide end is completely open. The question is "Is 20mm too wide for wedding, event, portrait work?"
Feb 25, 2020 at 01:27 PM