US: 6500 USD + tax
UK: 6500 GBP including tax - (8553 USD)
NL: 7419 EUR including tax - (8293 USD)
D: 7300 EUR including tax - (8160 USD)
I wonder if the pre order prices in the US for the 1dxII were the same as the III now. In my country they ask a whopping 1000 EUR more than in paid for the II on my preorder. Odd...
I also wonder what other countries charge for the III, please share if you have info.
[ edit ] Updated prices
First price I have seen for Australia: 10,988AUD including tax =7,554.75 USD
Choderboy wrote:
First price I have seen for Australia: 10,988AUD including tax =7,554.75 USD
Thanks for your info, i updated the list.
Seems that it's cheaper to buy one in Australia.
And to those that were able to buy Canon gear at a discount because of their CPS membership; For quite some time i have been (and still am) a platinum CPS member, and have never had the joy to buy gear at a discount in Europe, and always found it a bit unfair that US (correction; Canadian) CPS members did. So i'd say just be happy that you had the opportunity in the past.
therealthings wrote:
Thanks for your info, i updated the list.
Seems that it's cheaper to buy one in Australia.
And to those that were able to buy Canon gear at a discount because of their CPS membership; For quite some time i have been (and still am) a platinum CPS member, and have never had the joy to buy gear at a discount in Europe, and always found it a bit unfair that US CPS members did. So i'd say just be happy that you had the opportunity in the past.
US CPS members have never had a discount. The only country I’m aware of that has had a discount is Canada.
arbitrage wrote:
US CPS members have never had a discount. The only country I’m aware of that has had a discount is Canada.
Sorry for mistakenly seeing all those Canadians for Americans then.
How come Canadians get (err.. got) a discount and US CPS members don't have that privilege?
therealthings wrote:
Sorry for mistakenly seeing all those Canadians for Americans then.
How come Canadians get (err.. got) a discount and US CPS members don't have that privilege?
The two CPS programs are run totally independent from each other. Benefits differ throughout.
The Canadian discount is not advertised at all on CPS page or any list of benefits anywhere. I first learned of it from this forum. Basically the stores had a list of prices so you would call/email them and give them your CPS # and they would sell at the discounted price (I assume reimbursed by Canon for the difference). It used to be on L lenses and 1-series bodies. It appears Canon is doing away with it if the 1DXIII and recent high-end RF glass hasn't had a discount.
This camera definitely has many excellent features, as highlighted by smart posters in this thread. However, should I be concerned about the 20MP when my 5D Mark IV supports 30MP? (Actual high-res output is consistently higher than the advertised 30MP.) I don't print many billboards Thanks in advance
arbitrage wrote:
The two CPS programs are run totally independent from each other. Benefits differ throughout.
The Canadian discount is not advertised at all on CPS page or any list of benefits anywhere. I first learned of it from this forum. Basically the stores had a list of prices so you would call/email them and give them your CPS # and they would sell at the discounted price (I assume reimbursed by Canon for the difference). It used to be on L lenses and 1-series bodies. It appears Canon is doing away with it if the 1DXIII and recent high-end RF glass hasn't had a discount....Show more →
Thanks for the clarification. I have tried to get discount on purchases though a sales agent from CPS as well as through my direct contact at CPS Netherlands in the past, without success. Also, i read that US/Canadian CPS members have to pay for their membership. All we have to do in europe is show proof of professional usage of equipment, which is some sort of a grey area since i'm not a photograpger per-sé. I just use my gear now and then professionally for my business.
But aside from priority repairs and quick loaners, the membership is not of great benefit for me.
arbitrage wrote:
The two CPS programs are run totally independent from each other. Benefits differ throughout.
The Canadian discount is not advertised at all on CPS page or any list of benefits anywhere. I first learned of it from this forum. Basically the stores had a list of prices so you would call/email them and give them your CPS # and they would sell at the discounted price (I assume reimbursed by Canon for the difference). It used to be on L lenses and 1-series bodies. It appears Canon is doing away with it if the 1DXIII and recent high-end RF glass hasn't had a discount....Show more →
I haven't checked for the new 1DX Mark III, but I was told by a Canon Canada rep recently that they don't offer the discount on RF glass because the system isn't considered "professional". When I asked if Canon will consider the system professional in the future with the release of a professional R body all the rep did was shrug.
I'll be very disappointed if the 1DX Mark III and the RF glass aren't covered in the future. The discount is one of the things that's kept me with Canon.
BlueRidge wrote:
This camera definitely has many excellent features, as highlighted by smart posters in this thread. However, should I be concerned about the 20MP when my 5D Mark IV supports 30MP? (Actual high-res output is consistently higher than the advertised 30MP.) I don't print many billboards Thanks in advance
No need to be concerned. I could make an argument that there is no need for anything between 20 MP and 60 MP as far as resolution is concerned. If you really need more than 20, you need much more.
Chimping wrote:
I haven't checked for the new 1DX Mark III, but I was told by a Canon Canada rep recently that they don't offer the discount on RF glass because the system isn't considered "professional". When I asked if Canon will consider the system professional in the future with the release of a professional R body all the rep did was shrug.
I'll be very disappointed if the 1DX Mark III and the RF glass aren't covered in the future. The discount is one of the things that's kept me with Canon.
If that's the case then I guess Canon is exiting the professional camera business
With sports, shooting with a 400mm lens, you will need to crop accordingly. A 30Mpx file is easier to crop and still maintain enough data to clean up noise and retain detail, and still have something you can print pretty large.
With a 20Mpx sensor, not so much. I would have to add a 1.4x to the mix, and then that just bumps up my ISO another stop, and now my image is a bit worse.
So no, one cannot just say 20 is enough and if more is enough, then 40 or more is then needed, the world, and gear selection, and types of captures just aren't so black and white.
There are also many reasons a higher resolution file is very useful, cropping is just one of them. However my assessment personally is that I have shot pro ball with the 1D series, APS-C and FF non-1D. The 5D4 has produced the best results bar none for sports, fan posters, high ISO and cropability than any other camera, minus the burst rate, and that is across two photographers, one that shoots with the 1DX and other bodies.
TeamSpeed wrote:
With sports, shooting with a 400mm lens, you will need to crop accordingly. A 30Mpx file is easier to crop and still maintain enough data to clean up noise and retain detail, and still have something you can print pretty large.
With a 20Mpx sensor, not so much. I would have to add a 1.4x to the mix, and then that just bumps up my ISO another stop, and now my image is a bit worse.
So no, one cannot just say 20 is enough and if more is enough, then 40 or more is then needed, the world, and gear selection, and types of captures just aren't so black and white.
There are also many reasons a higher resolution file is very useful, cropping is just one of them....Show more →
I forgot to add my favorite body to date before the 5D4 was the 1D4. I had the 1D3 and had the same complaint, not enough resolution, but they fixed that with the 1D4. A 1DXII cropped to an APS-H view leaves me with a 12Mpx file, just a bit better than the 1D3 but worse than the 1D4, so I know already it isn't sufficient for me.
The 5D4 cropped to an APS-H view actually yields a bit more resolution than the 1D4, and thus why I have been happy with that.
Yes, I would have been happy with a 28-35Mpx 1DX that shot at 10-12fps, but instead am looking at the same 20.1Mpx file size but with a myriad of other goodies to help the capture of the scene. Since my importance right now is on resolution and not these new faster AF functions or video functions, it leaves me wanting a bit. However for one of me, there are probably 2 others of you chomping at the bit for the 1DX3, so Canon will sell these, just not to me.
Every bit helps, also with resolution. But if you are at a point where 20 MP makes your results visibly worse than 30, the visible impact of getting to 60 will be strikingly much better than 30 in comparison. Even at 10 fps, which you can get
therealthings wrote:
How come Canadians get (err.. got) a discount and US CPS members don't have that privilege?
I worked in photo retail in the 90s when IMO there were at least two factors that necessitated the CPS discount:
1) Canon was a considerable underdog to Nikon.
2) Equipment prices in the US market were frequently considerably less than in Canada, which was also dependent on the exchange rate.
The EF system was a pretty radical change from the systems of the 70s-80s and a lot of Nikon users were quite conservative about these changes. Nikon offered some lens mount continuity in their transition to AF that benefitted them short-term because their photographers didn't have to switch everything over to a brand new lens mount. But the technological advantages of the EF mount became pretty self evident by the mid-90s. The CPS discount was just one more incentive to tip the balance in Canon's favour.
CPS membership back then was also considerably more difficult to get. The only way then was to prove you were working professionally, though there was still a slight grey zone with some advanced amateur members. Membership was free. The number of photographers benefitting from the discount was certainly much less than now (but apparently the discount was abused by many retailers - i.e. fake sales to valid CPS memberships). Now membership is a revenue stream and open to a much broader range of photographers. I think it's better now in part because the money generated from the membership fees resulted in a greater reinvestment in the CPS program by Canon Canada; better equipment loaner pool and improved quality of the service itself. This benefits those of us who really need that aspect of the CPS membership, other than just the price discount.
In the 90s Canon Canada and Canon USA seemed to operate more independently and likely set prices according to internal factors. Given Canon USA's considerably larger market and higher sales volume, it's likely their wholesale prices were better than Canon Canada's, which in turn likely influenced retail price gaps. There was probably also an assumption by Canon Canada (and other Canadian wholesalers and retailers) that domestic customers would be willing to pay somewhat more than deal with the 'hassle' of cross-border shopping (which wasn't as seamless as it is now). Canon Canada is now effectively a branch of Canon USA (Canon Americas). There is still some independence, but there also seems to be much more price coordination to minimize cross-border price discrepancies. Though I'm sure some here will remember when ~5 or so years ago it was considerably less expensive to buy super-tele lenses in Canada than the US, with many sales going to the US. Of course, Canon USA didn't drop prices to match, rather Canon Canada increased prices in-line with the US...
Its a back and forth between Canada and the US in terms of pricing. The US has much better discounts and sales for refurbished gear. I took advantage of the refurbished sale and bought an EOS R for US $1250 in late December.
Just got an email from my contact at a large Toronto Canon retailer and he tells me that the 1dx iii does not qualify for cps pricing. I think it probably because of the bundle included with the camera. With taxes the cash outlay would be $9700.
After reading the 1dx iii white paper, the AF system is quite impressive. However, the pricing is crazy high..
However for one of me, there are probably 2 others of you chomping at the bit for the 1DX3, so Canon will sell these, just not to me. 