Quick question for those that have already decided that they want this lens: what is the expected main use for it? Landscape, travel, architecture, street, portrait, family, walk-around, etc?
DavidBM wrote:
Hard to believe they could make it great and not be larger than the Loxia 2.4/85. So I hope for an APO Lanthar 2.8/90 (or 2.5/75)
Well, the Leica M 90 f/2 APO is smaller than the Loxia 85 f/2.4, and the Voigtlander 75 f/1.5 is a great little lens at 350g, so I think it is quite possible that have a Voigtlander APO Lanthar that is an 85mm or 90mm f/2 and about 450g. Zeiss does a lot of things well but optimizing lenses to be small is not something they use do and rarely do well. I think the Loxia 85 is heavier than it needs to be as much as I like that lens.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Well, the Leica M 90 f/2 APO is smaller than the Loxia 85 f/2.4, and the Voigtlander 75 f/1.5 is a great little lens at 350g, so I think it is quite possible that have a Voigtlander APO Lanthar that is an 85mm or 90mm f/2 and about 450g. Zeiss does a lot of things well but optimizing lenses to be small is not something they use do and rarely do well. I think the Loxia 85 is heavier than it needs to be as much as I like that lens.
Hi Steve,
Case and point and somewhat hard to believe, but the Leica M WATE is smaller and lighter than the Zeiss 21mm Loxia.
Rich
Dec 15, 2019 at 09:35 AM
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vdo1 wrote:
Quick question for those that have already decided that they want this lens: what is the expected main use for it? Landscape, travel, architecture, street, portrait, family, walk-around, etc?
For me it will be a general purpose lens, but travel will be a primary use of the lens. For a travel lens for me, however, that means I want it to be fairly good at almost everything. I definitely want it for its landscape capabilities, for shooting street, for outdoor portraits, a little bit of architecture, some fairly close shots. I am sure I will take lots of shots of my family with it as well. I think it will make a wonderful general purpose lens.
vdo1 wrote:
Quick question for those that have already decided that they want this lens: what is the expected main use for it? Landscape, travel, architecture, street, portrait, family, walk-around, etc?
For me it will be landscape, nature, flowers and general still photos
i had before the apo-summicron 90. 473g, so almost the weight you look for. but, is not as good as loxia 85 at least in my opinion. i compared them directly, and sold cron. I believe something lighter has more sense, probably elmarit-m 395g. tele-elmarit-m is really small 226g, but it is noticiably softer. Some guys here i believe have the zm 85 and it looks they are very satisfied.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Well, the Leica M 90 f/2 APO is smaller than the Loxia 85 f/2.4, and the Voigtlander 75 f/1.5 is a great little lens at 350g, so I think it is quite possible that have a Voigtlander APO Lanthar that is an 85mm or 90mm f/2 and about 450g. Zeiss does a lot of things well but optimizing lenses to be small is not something they use do and rarely do well. I think the Loxia 85 is heavier than it needs to be as much as I like that lens.
i had before the apo-summicron 90. 473g, so almost the weight you look for. but, is not as good as loxia 85 at least in my opinion. i compared them directly, and sold cron. I believe something lighter has more sense, probably elmarit-m 395g. tele-elmarit-m is really small 226g, but it is noticiably softer. Some guys here i believe have the zm 85 and it looks they are very satisfied.
I had both for over a year as well. I preferred the Leica (and as you know that weight--I weighed mine at 476g--includes the built-in hood). The Loxia is of course a much better deal at about half the price even if you buy the Leica used. I also had an M10 at the time and the Leica 90 AA is slightly better on the Leica camera, so not a completely fair comparison with the Loxia anyway.
Luvwine had an excellent comparison of the two lenses that he posted and it was clear the two lenses have quite similar performance. The Loxia might have a smidge more microcontrast and the Leica might have depending one's preference a bit better bokeh and better CA correction in some situations (although not in others), but overall it was striking how similar the lenses performed. I take such comparisons as exhibit A that the Loxia 85 is bigger than it needs to be. A half stop slower, about 120g heavier and quite similar performance.
I would be very happy with a lens very much like the Leica 90 AA with one improvement--I would like to see a floating element. The 90AA's performance did drop more than I liked as you got close. I think Voigtlander can certainly make such a lens.
These have minimal processing (levels and HDR) applied. Picture of the boss was taken as an OOF stress test, but she doesn't know that
I am not sure if it's fine to post these here while Fred's review is developing, I assumed it was, since review threads for other lenses have grown forever. If that's not the case, let me know and I will move the post.
These were are shot handheld on a "full spectrum" Sony A7 (has only the cover glass of 0.5mm) with an STC 850nm drop in filter and the APO Lanthar 50/2. There was brief glimpse of a Sun, mostly grey skies and a real feel of 0 deg C.
1. Royal archives (f/7.1, 1/125s, ISO400) library.
Hi all,
there is a group now opened by Mister Chebak on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/groups/14634223@N25/ (hope he doesn't mind me mentioning this ). So there is also a nice other way (like here :-) ) to pool these photo's.
Greets, Daniel
Although not a macro lens with a maximum magnification of only 1:6.4 (~0.16x) and 0.45m minimal focus distance (MFD), the Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO Lanthar puts out an impressive performance at MFD. It's already optimal wide open at f/2, and when stepping it down to f/2.8 and f/4, there only minimal improvement at center.
Now we have outstanding performance at infinity as well as MFD thanks to the lens' floating element system.
With the addition of a 5+ Achromat diopter close-up filter (Like the one from Marumi), the CV 50/2 APO could achieve almost 1:2 Macro. (0.44x)
