Nice examples from another excellent Voigtlander. They're killing it lately.
The many examples here gave me the itch to pick one up, but given that I've previously suffered from 2MANY50s syndrome, I decided to repurchase the CV 65mm APO.
'what is the expected main use for it? Landscape, travel, architecture, street, portrait, family, walk-around, etc?'
All that and more, to take specific advantage of its qualities - ultra low light, harsh contrast, focus roll-off, still lifes, these were all shown in the pre-release images. All the subjects you intuitively avoid due to light control issues, mesh fences etc. That is what this elevated sense of quality and realism buys the creative photographer. Anyone using a flash go to the back of the queue, lol.
Consider what would happen if for some reason Cosina decided that - this being a special run for its 20th anniversary - there would only would 2500 units made. The price would rocket to its true value - thousands.
Apart from the 85 or 90, they are more likely to do a 35mm IMO. Sony do not yet have a UWA-21-40-65-110, nor a high end 35, so there's that (everyone does 50-55s). There are two very good 25s that crop so easily to 28mm, one is MF.
As Leica has done in the SL range, CV would want to keep IQ much the same which ever way they go (SL is 35-50-75-90). Size/weight minimisation is easier for 35mm, it's a very traditional FL and a great walk around lens. It would be more popular, maybe more challenging - and they like challenges.
'am using a 49 to 39mm ring'
thanks for the hood tip (again).
philip_pj wrote:
'what is the expected main use for it? Landscape, travel, architecture, street, portrait, family, walk-around, etc?'
All that and more, to take specific advantage of its qualities - ultra low light, harsh contrast, focus roll-off, still lifes, these were all shown in the pre-release images. All the subjects you intuitively avoid due to light control issues, mesh fences etc. That is what this elevated sense of quality and realism buys the creative photographer. Anyone using a flash go to the back of the queue, lol.
Consider what would happen if for some reason Cosina decided that - this being a special run for its 20th anniversary - there would only would 2500 units made. The price would rocket to its true value - thousands. ...Show more →
Australian buyers who took advantage of the 10% Black Friday discount paid ~USD875 for the APO-Lanthar 50/2—an unbelievable bargain. But, as Fred’s tests and initial images from owners are demonstrating, even at USD1049 the lens is drastically underpriced.
The CV 50/2 is highly corrected for color aberration (lateral and longitudinal) but under extreme conditions, both CV 65/2 and CV 110/2.5 APO-Lanthar lenses are better corrected.
Having said that, although not perfect, the level of CA correction is one of the best on the market for a 50mm lens.
Here is an example:
Resized test image
1:1 crop from image above: Axial CA is noticeable: Green (behind the focused area), Magenta (in front of focused area)
1:1 crop from image above: Axial CA is noticeable: Green (behind the focused area), Magenta (in front of focused area)
Lateral CA is well corrected and negligible. Keep in mind: When editing the RAW images in Lightroom, there is an automated built-in profile applied to the RAW images.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Well, the Leica M 90 f/2 APO is smaller than the Loxia 85 f/2.4, and the Voigtlander 75 f/1.5 is a great little lens at 350g, so I think it is quite possible that have a Voigtlander APO Lanthar that is an 85mm or 90mm f/2 and about 450g. Zeiss does a lot of things well but optimizing lenses to be small is not something they use do and rarely do well. I think the Loxia 85 is heavier than it needs to be as much as I like that lens.
These are both great lenses; but neither has as a design goal “damn near perfect wide open” in the way that the APO Lanthar series does (and the L85 comes close to doing): especially not the cv 74 but not even the APO summicron.
Achieving that requires more bulk.
This is NOT (again) to say that those lenses aren’t great, or that their wide open performance isn’t very useful for many kinds of images. Exactly what trade offs between size, mass, corners wide open, wide open peak resolution etc etc make most sense for a user is a heated question I’m not getting into here.
But CV have a particular performance profile in mind, and I’m guessing if compactness is a goal along with that performance a 90 is going to have to be f2.8. Of course they could make an f2; and it’s either be bigger that the Loxia 85 or perform like the APO summicron. Either could make sense; but neither would be in line with what seems to be the intent of the AL50.
It’s worth noting that “classically” the companion lenses of a 2/50 tend to be 90 or 100 f2,8; the faster teles are part of a series with a 1.4/50.
I don't think Adorama has any in stock, it says they are expecting a shipment from manufacturer. I ordered on anyways, hoping they do have it in stock.
I think enough people ordered based on this thread, and consumed that limited stock Fred mentioned. At the time the person posted it here....it did say in stock.
-Tim
Pchi wrote:
I don't think Adorama has any in stock, it says they are expecting a shipment from manufacturer. I ordered on anyways, hoping they do have it in stock.
Haven't had many opportunities to use it yet, but so far I am really enjoying this lens.
It solves all of the little things that led me to sell the 65mm (focus throw, size, weight, and focal length), while providing the same IQ I loved in the 65.
