Thank you for your images Kevphoto. I live in Maine so I am familiar with the challenges snowy landscapes and wintry skies pose. In the past, I have noticed that some modern lenses have a tendency to block whites making winter subjects harder to record without resorting to filters and other not so fun methods.
I would be interested to find out if the Voigtlander 50 APO is better or worse in this regard than other 50s such as the Loxia.
Rarely, he does not like a lens and just refuses to “review” it. I guess it is not worth his time if it will not sell.
Not a bad policy.
All review outfits are there to make a dime.
Luvwine wrote:
Quoting Steve Huff as a top notch lens tester is a little off base to me. He is a good marketer, has some pretty strange ideas about the paranormal (and sells equipment for this endeavor) and seems to love almost every lens that crosses his desk.
Well, the only other 50mm I own is the Nikon 50 f/1.2 AIS, which I don't really use for landscapes. What I do find with the A7R4 is plenty of dynamic range to pull up shadows (especially combined with the highlight-priority metering). I've only had the CV 50/2 for a few days so haven't shot much with it yet--but I do love what I see.
Off topic for this thread, but in response, here is a gallery with a bunch of winter photos taken mostly with the 24-105 f/4, but also with a few others (Tamron 17-28, CV 24/1.4, CV 110, and the Nikon 300 PF). https://kplphoto.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Winter-Images-2019-2020/
raul jarquin wrote:
Thank you for your images Kevphoto. I live in Maine so I am familiar with the challenges snowy landscapes and wintry skies pose. In the past, I have noticed that some modern lenses have a tendency to block whites making winter subjects harder to record without resorting to filters and other not so fun methods.
I would be interested to find out if the Voigtlander 50 APO is better or worse in this regard than other 50s such as the Loxia.
realVivek wrote:
Rarely, he does not like a lens and just refuses to “review” it. I guess it is not worth his time if it will not sell.
Not a bad policy.
All review outfits are there to make a dime.
Okay, well, if his opinions are valuable to you, so be it. I think there are more reliable sources, however. Phillip Reeve is a good source. Reviews on this site by experienced members are also reliable. Some like Digilloyd (he makes his money by charging for access). Suit yourself, however.
You are assuming too much. I don’t care for any of the review outfits.
They are all the same to me.
Luvwine wrote:
Okay, well, if his opinions are valuable to you, so be it. I think there are more reliable sources, however. Phillip Reeve is a good source. Reviews on this site by experienced members are also reliable. Some like Digilloyd (he makes his money by charging for access). Suit yourself, however.
Feb 17, 2020 at 03:42 PM
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realVivek wrote:
You are assuming too much. I don’t care for any of the review outfits.
They are all the same to me.
I really like Fred's reviews and those from the team at phillipreeve.com. I like the MTF tests from Lensrentals blog. Beyond that I haven't seen too much that I like.
Thank you for your link! I ordered the CV 50 APO. I have a number of 50s so it was hard to make a move. The return policies of major resellers these days make it a no brainier to try things out but I am hoping the APO 50 may stay and replace a couple of 50s
realVivek wrote:
What the heck was wrong with Philip’s quotes? I don’t find anything was wrong based on my own experience of this lens.
Why would you all inject what review outfit one should prefeR or not ?
Because part of the reason many post here is to share information and help others. Many here have a lot of experience. There is a lot of information out there on the net. Some sources are better than others in terms of reliability, rigor of testing, and willingness to identify flaws in lenses or other items that are reviewed . I disagree with your assertion that all equipment review sites are all the same. Of course, there is nothing that compels you to accept anything any of us say. Feel free to trust the guy who sells expensive gear to commune with the dead as much as Fred Miranda, Phillip Reeve, or the like. You are free to read and trust who you like.
Geez! It looks like I touched a nerve. I have this lens since it was available.
I do not trust anyone when it comes to spending my money. In this day and age anyone curious can buy a lens and can return it for full refund if it does not cut the mustard for them.
YMMV.
If you do not like Steve Huff or someone else reviewing, perhaps it would be help to lobby Cameraquest and/or Cosina to stop supplying the review samples to such people.
Feb 17, 2020 at 04:58 PM
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realVivek wrote:
Geez! It looks like I touched a nerve. I have this lens since it was available.
I do not trust anyone when it comes to spending my money. In this day and age anyone curious can buy a lens and can return it for full refund if it does not cut the mustard for them.
YMMV.
If you do not like Steve Huff or someone else reviewing, perhaps it would be help to lobby Cameraquest and/or Cosina to stop supplying the review samples to such people.
You are free not to trust any reviews, but personally I disagree with your statement that all reviews are the same. I don't think that is accurate, so I responded with the reviews that I find the most valuable, Fred's, those by the team at phillipreeve.com, and the mtf tests at lensrentals blog. You are free to disagree, but if you say all reviews are the same you shouldn't be surprised if others don't share your opinion and talk about the reviews they find valuable.
realVivek wrote:
Do you or anyone disagree with Philip’s quotes? That is the point.
Steve Huff had used Leica’ s APO Summicron M 50/2 and says that this APO Lanthar is about the same for much less.
That is useful to some.
I have no objection against anyone promoting Steve’s paranormal site!
Did you read what I wrote? No, I don't disagree with Phillip's quotes. I singled out the reviews at his site as ones I particularly like. What I disagree with is your contention that all reviews sites are the same. I don't think they are.
If there is such a thing as too sharp, this lens is just that. It is almost hard to believe these are crops from 24Mpx files. I find I have to de-sharpen them in C1 at times to emulate the more vintage Nokton look.
sismailian wrote:
This lens just brings out magic in photo's. I must say I think this lens makes me just want to shoot more and more. Lenses like this are what bring a smile to my face with every photo I see when I open them up on the big screen. Rarely did I ever have this gratifying feeling; only the sigma 40mm 1.4 art lens made me feel this way but that is a lens I rather not carry around due to it's weight.
I share sismalillian's enthusiasm. Honestly that "magic" is what keeps me in this hobby. My 65mm APO-Lanthar delivers the same magic, but I became concerned about carrying it hanging at my side as my copy tend to extend itself under normal walking motion. When I saw the opportunity of the same magic in this 50mm, non-macro version I knew it would check all my boxes. It certainly does. One concern I had when I ordered the 50mm is that I might need to give up much in minimum focus. I sometimes like to photograph my food in a special occasion. The minimum focus distance of the 50mm still allows that. This is a f/2.8 while sitting at the table with no special lighting: BAC00129 by Bert Cheney, on Flickr
I started chasing some incredible clouds I've almost never seen. So unreal and it lasted only about 2-3 mins. I think what I am really impressed by is the lens incredible resolution near infinity. Things like clouds and mountains are so sharp and clear.