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Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review

  
 
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p.47 #1 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


I like 40mm as a stand alone lens much more than 50, but I do prefer 50mm when paired with a wider lens.

Note that my copy of the 50/1.2 seems wider than other 50mm lenses I’ve had. It was noticeably wider than my FE 50/1.4 when I compared field of view, a lens I’ve seen referred to as a wide 50mm (47-49mm)



Jan 15, 2020 at 08:52 PM
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carlos212 wrote:
I'm trying to decide between the normal voigtlander lenses, i don't have enough money to afford duplicates, so for a landscape / portrait /everiday what do you think will do best, the 50 1.2, the 50 f2 or the 40 f1.2?

They will ve paired with the loxia 21, voigtlnader 21 1.4 or gm 24 1.4, not sure which of them I will pick either.

Any advice?


Will the normal lens be the longest you carry? That’s a good argument for 50.

As for which 50 personally I’d get the 2/50 for compactness and ultimate quality, but frankly I think I’d be making a mistake and emphasising extreme quality and cute form factor too much. The 1.2/50 is not that much bigger, and is still excellent at shared apertures, and has more flexibility for blurrier backgrounds at longer subject distances (f2 is plenty fast enough for closer subject distances).

As for the wide end, the only powerful argument for 1.4/21 is a lot of astrophotography. The L21 is a deal second hand and a bit smaller. The 24 has very beatIful bokeh and does lovely wide environmental portraits. but the two 21s are even better choices for landscape, excellent though the GM is. But it is *wide* for an environmental portrait lens; people rarely shoot these. Will you? If so get it, otherwise not.



Jan 15, 2020 at 09:01 PM
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Will the normal lens be the longest you carry? That’s a good argument for 50.

As for which 50 personally I’d get the 2/50 for compactness and ultimate quality, but frankly I think I’d be making a mistake and emphasising extreme quality and cute form factor too much. The 1.2/50 is not that much bigger, and is still excellent at shared apertures, and has more flexibility for blurrier backgrounds at longer subject distances (f2 is plenty fast enough for closer subject distances).

As for the wide end, the only powerful argument for 1.4/21 is a lot of astrophotography. The L21 is a
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Thanks for the answer david.

I will carry a longer lens yes, something between 80 and 100 mm, now I usually carry voigtlander 35 1.7 with pcx, tokina atx 90 mm and lox 21. The thing with the lox is that I find the rendering of close subjects (foreground etc) awkward, which is a shame because is a fantastic lens, and that's the argument for enviromental portraits that you make, though I don't shoot much I do include foreground and subjects of interest on my wide angle photos. That's the reason for considering the 24 gm, wihcih would be too close I think to my voigtlander 35, thus the changing of this lens for a 40 o 50. I'm relatively new to photography, and I'm discovering my tastes still, recently I'm thinking I prefer shooting longer lenses, even for landscapes, (90, 200), than wider ones, that's also a reason for the change, is hard because I love my current set up, I laso have the cv 15, maybe i will substitute that for a samyang 18 mm, a lens i keep hearing marvels about.

I'm a really indecesive person so it's hard for me, I'm very grateful to you and fred and every competent and thorough reviewer out there for makeing it more easy.




Jan 16, 2020 at 04:49 AM
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Will the normal lens be the longest you carry? That’s a good argument for 50.

As for which 50 personally I’d get the 2/50 for compactness and ultimate quality, but frankly I think I’d be making a mistake and emphasising extreme quality and cute form factor too much. The 1.2/50 is not that much bigger, and is still excellent at shared apertures, and has more flexibility for blurrier backgrounds at longer subject distances (f2 is plenty fast enough for closer subject distances).

As for the wide end, the only powerful argument for 1.4/21 is a lot of astrophotography. The L21 is a
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Thanks for the answer david.

I will carry a longer lens yes, something between 80 and 100 mm, now I usually carry voigtlander 35 1.7 with pcx, tokina atx 90 mm and lox 21. The thing with the lox is that I find the rendering of close subjects (foreground etc) awkward, which is a shame because is a fantastic lens, and that's the argument for enviromental portraits that you make, though I don't shoot much I do include foreground and subjects of interest on my wide angle photos. That's the reason for considering the 24 gm, wihcih would be too close I think to my voigtlander 35, thus the changing of this lens for a 40 o 50. I'm relatively new to photography, and I'm discovering my tastes still, recently I'm thinking I prefer shooting longer lenses, even for landscapes, (90, 200), than wider ones, that's also a reason for the change, is hard because I love my current set up, I laso have the cv 15, maybe i will substitute that for a samyang 18 mm, a lens i keep hearing marvels about.

I'm a really indecesive person so it's hard for me, I'm very grateful to you and fred and every competent and thorough reviewer out there for makeing it more easy.




Jan 16, 2020 at 04:50 AM
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carlos212 wrote:
Thanks for the answer david.

I will carry a longer lens yes, something between 80 and 100 mm, now I usually carry voigtlander 35 1.7 with pcx, tokina atx 90 mm and lox 21. The thing with the lox is that I find the rendering of close subjects (foreground etc) awkward, which is a shame because is a fantastic lens, and that's the argument for enviromental portraits that you make, though I don't shoot much I do include foreground and subjects of interest on my wide angle photos. That's the reason for considering the 24 gm, wihcih would be too close
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That's a pretty good set up you have now!
35 or 28 are I think the best focal lengths for environmental portraits; wider ones are a very specialised genre which occasionally works, but requires a lot of skill to make it work, and even them it's not going to be your usual case. That's why quite a few, I think, have sold their GM24. It's a great lens, but unless you are doing very wide enviro portrait or astro, the speed isn't useful, and you can get away with something slower for landscape, and perhaps you want shorter as well, though that's a matter of taste.

So I'd be very tempted, if I were you, to keep your L21. That works great for images with foreground interest, and you really don't want TOO much blur with those in the background, for one thing there is not enough DOF in the foreground for non-portrait subjects if you use a really fast aperture. And actually keep your voigtlander 35 for enviro portrait! You could switch to the 40, but it's not that much longer, and not much better (given you have the pcx for the 35) and that avoids a lot of gear switching and money loss to get a set up which while different (which can be fun and challenging) is not obviously better!

Minimise the churn! More time shooting!



Jan 16, 2020 at 05:27 AM
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p.47 #6 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


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That's a pretty good set up you have now!
35 or 28 are I think the best focal lengths for environmental portraits; wider ones are a very specialised genre which occasionally works, but requires a lot of skill to make it work, and even them it's not going to be your usual case. That's why quite a few, I think, have sold their GM24. It's a great lens, but unless you are doing very wide enviro portrait or astro, the speed isn't useful, and you can get away with something slower for landscape, and perhaps you want shorter as well, though
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David I'm going to follow your advice for know, thanks for making an argument for les GAS. . Maybe I just needed a more experienced person telling me I have a good set up!



Jan 16, 2020 at 05:33 AM
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p.47 #7 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


DaveFP wrote:
IMO:

40mm is more flexible than 50mm as an "everyday" focal length.

50/1.2 for portrait.
50/2 for landscape.

I'd probably chose the 40 for a two lens kit.


I wish they would put out a 35mm APO for that reason. I love the 40, but the images of this 50 APO make it so tempting. A little hard to justify when the focal length is so close.

Amos



Jan 16, 2020 at 11:39 AM
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p.47 #8 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


took me a while to figure out how to declick the aperture, pretty cool feature


Jan 16, 2020 at 03:10 PM
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p.47 #9 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


My review of the CV50/2 AL:

https://blog.keepcoding.ch/?p=5539



Jan 19, 2020 at 07:04 AM
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p.47 #10 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Couple grabs from today's hike. Dull day but certainly not a dull lens.



Voigtlander APO-LANTHAR 50mm F2 Aspherical @ f/2.8 by Stjepan Tomislav Svaljek, on Flickr




Voigtlander APO-LANTHAR 50mm F2 Aspherical @ f/2.8 by Stjepan Tomislav Svaljek, on Flickr



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p.47 #11 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Our favourite rumours site reports new Laowa lenses for 2020, including 50/2.8 and 65/2.8 2:1 macro ones in the "CA-dreamer" series (same as the 100mm which has very low CA).

This will be interesting to watch. What would you pick in 50mm, f/2 and no close focus (Voigtlander), or f/2.8 and 2:1 macro abilities (Laowa)? The size of the 50mm looks reasonable......



Jan 20, 2020 at 12:18 PM
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p.47 #12 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Cosina FE lenses are the only ones that offer 5 axis stabilization with the current Sony bodies with IBIS.

Good luck with your Laowa purchase!



Jan 20, 2020 at 01:27 PM
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p.47 #13 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


stjepan wrote:
Couple grabs from today's hike. Dull day but certainly not a dull lens.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49410576972_2db0e380db_h.jpg

Voigtlander APO-LANTHAR 50mm F2 Aspherical @ f/2.8 by Stjepan Tomislav Svaljek, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49410577017_2ba4d82bc0_h.jpg

Voigtlander APO-LANTHAR 50mm F2 Aspherical @ f/2.8 by Stjepan Tomislav Svaljek, on Flickr


Gorgeous rendering!



Jan 20, 2020 at 01:32 PM
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p.47 #14 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


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Cosina FE lenses are the only ones that offer 5 axis stabilization with the current Sony bodies with IBIS.

Good luck with your Laowa purchase!


Gitzo will do all 6 axis And a fast shutter speed can help nearly that much.

So at this point you must be talking the case of low light hand held photography. Which begs the question why f/2 and why manual focus? Does APO trump fast lenses with AF in this particular case? Are you fighting "counterlit foliage" issues during blue hour? Or maybe LoCA would be too distracting within a mixed sodium-LED-neon street lighting?

And don't be so dismissive on Laowa, we can bring up interesting subjects such as 15mm lenses.



Jan 20, 2020 at 01:52 PM
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p.47 #15 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


You are not only delusional but very boring.


Jan 20, 2020 at 02:08 PM
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p.47 #16 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Blue hour snap, A7rII, APO Lanthar 50/2, Amsterdam.

Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr



Jan 20, 2020 at 02:11 PM
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p.47 #17 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Another one.

Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr



Jan 20, 2020 at 02:12 PM
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p.47 #18 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr


Jan 20, 2020 at 02:14 PM
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p.47 #19 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


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Another one.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49408181062_9867a721be_h.jpgUntitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr


May I ask where exactly did you focus here? Or was this a "zone focusing" attempt?



Jan 20, 2020 at 02:17 PM
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p.47 #20 · Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar Review


You may not!

Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr

Sony A7rII, APO Lanthar 50/2, The Hague



Jan 20, 2020 at 02:28 PM
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