hanay78 wrote:
what an interesting moment, do I buy loxia or apo-lanthar... ? anxiously waiting for a comparison
My apo-lanthar will deliver on in 2 days,will replace my loxia50,I think the comparison result will be that apo-lanthar win without any suspense.(sharpness,field curvature,CAs)
olalafoto wrote:
My apo-lanthar will deliver on in 2 days,will replace my loxia50,I think the comparison result will be that apo-lanthar win without any suspense.(sharpness,field curvature,CAs)
No lens test can be complete without a comparison with "24 GM in crop mode"
Now seriously. Just for kicks, maybe you could try a 35mm in crop mode (anything from your current inventory). Maybe it could help with cooling a little bit the cropping fervor.
olalafoto wrote:
My apo-lanthar will deliver on in 2 days,will replace my loxia50,I think the comparison result will be that apo-lanthar win without any suspense.(sharpness,field curvature,CAs)
I've shot with the Loxia 50/2 for many years. At large apertures, the Voigtlander will win by a large margin, especially at mid-field. (The Loxia has wavy field curvature)
However, I'm pretty sure the Loxia 50/2 will not be far behind in regards to contrast and resolution starting at f/5.6 and smaller.
vdo1 wrote:
No lens test can be complete without a comparison with "24 GM in crop mode"
Now seriously. Just for kicks, maybe you could try a 35mm in crop mode (anything from your current inventory). Maybe it could help with cooling a little bit the cropping fervor.
John Borrelli wrote:
I am glad to hear Fred’s positive comments on the performance of the lens at maximum aperture. As a landscape shooter, I don’t often use this aperture but I am always concerned about the performance of a lens as a viewing lens at maximum aperture. For those of us who focus at maximum aperture this is an important lens criteria. I have been using the Sony FE 50mm 1.8 and although it performs well enough at the apertures I typically use manually focusing at maximum aperture has been a weakness of the lens.
The Sony 55/1.8 ZA is another lens that does well across the field at large apertures. (Even at mid-field)
However, it can't match the CV 50/2 APO's CA correction, color rendition and contrast.
Fred Miranda wrote:
I've shot with the Loxia 50/2 for many years. At large apertures, the Voigtlander will win by a large margin, especially at mid-field. (The Loxia has wavy field curvature)
However, I'm pretty sure the Loxia 50/2 will not be far behind in regards to contrast and resolution starting at f/5.6 and smaller.
Yes, f/6.3~f/11 is excellent, but I need the same excellent f/2~f/4
hanay78 wrote:
i am very interested in your comparison!
Im not every stinking time im either buying same time as him or buying within minutes.
Seriously I cant look right now. Im trying to downsize from home to a rental townhome sell my daughter my house. I need to get the hell out of here my daughter with grandkids and husband moved in 2 months ago to buy a new home and now they decided ours was it and there driving me nuts.
Seriously though my wife and I are ready to move and slow down.
vdo1 wrote:
No lens test can be complete without a comparison with "24 GM in crop mode"
Now seriously. Just for kicks, maybe you could try a 35mm in crop mode (anything from your current inventory). Maybe it could help with cooling a little bit the cropping fervor.
in terms of resolution i believe apo-lanthar should win. but contrast and color redition are the characteristic that interest me more now. i am an amateur, i rarely print, so i can leave with the mid field dip...
I bought a used lox and keep it for some weeks. then resold it. i miss it since, in spite of the nervous bokeh
any comparison will be highly apreciated
Fred Miranda wrote:
I've shot with the Loxia 50/2 for many years. At large apertures, the Voigtlander will win by a large margin, especially at mid-field. (The Loxia has wavy field curvature)
However, I'm pretty sure the Loxia 50/2 will not be far behind in regards to contrast and resolution starting at f/5.6 and smaller.
vdo1 wrote:
Not my fault, you gents need to get more creative with this thing "crop". 24 is old news
No one brought it up except you. It's like a cut and paste line for you regardless of the topic. Besides let's talk "creative" do you actually take pictures or are you just a professional commenter and GIF poster?
vdo1 wrote:
Now that's an interesting one, especially vs the Sony ZA 50/1.4. Could save some bulk/weight in the bag when needed.
I've actually used it quite a bit. As many know, I do a fair amount of food photography. Although my focal length of choice is 50mm, I usually would carry my Batis 40 for it's close focus ability even if I had the 50 1.4 ZA with me. The 50 1.4 ZA won't let me get close enough to where I'm comfortable shooting food at events and in restaurants. The 35 1.2 can get me to 11 inches or so, which when cropped to around 50 works really well. Even on the street I can easily move between 35 and 50 without giving too much away (I don't make large prints). I do carry the Sigma 105 1.4 as well - so I guess a little weight savings is appreciated
vdo1 wrote:
No lens test can be complete without a comparison with "24 GM in crop mode"
Now seriously. Just for kicks, maybe you could try a 35mm in crop mode (anything from your current inventory). Maybe it could help with cooling a little bit the cropping fervor.
hanay78 wrote:
in terms of resolution i believe apo-lanthar should win. but contrast and color redition are the characteristic that interest me more now. i am an amateur, i rarely print, so i can leave with the mid field dip...
I bought a used lox and keep it for some weeks. then resold it. i miss it since, in spite of the nervous bokeh
any comparison will be highly apreciated
I think the biggest advantage of loxia50 is that the colors are bright and beautiful, I hope that apo-Lanthar can do the same
After testing the CV 50/2 APO against the light, flare resistance is solid with minimal ghosting. Undetectable veiling flare and when compared to other lenses like the CV 40/1.2 Nokton -- veiling resistance seems to be a strength.
Here is a comparison between CV 50/2 APO vs CV 40/1.2 Nokton at sunrise. (Both at f/5.6 and focused at infinity)
TOP image (CV 50/2 APO) | BOTTOM image (CV 40/1.2 Nokton) | Both at f/5.6.
1:1 crop from image above showing the area focused at infinity distance.
1:1 crop from image above indicates improved veiling flare resistance for the CV 50/2 APO but scattered ghosting spots are noticeable.
hanay78 wrote:
in terms of resolution i believe apo-lanthar should win. but contrast and color redition are the characteristic that interest me more now. i am an amateur, i rarely print, so i can leave with the mid field dip...
I bought a used lox and keep it for some weeks. then resold it. i miss it since, in spite of the nervous bokeh
any comparison will be highly apreciated
At f/7.1 and smaller they may be close in terms of resolution, but starting at this aperture, diffraction becomes more obvious on the A7R4. If your main interest is landscapes, I don't think IQ will differ too much at small apertures, except for the extra lateral CA for the Loxia. Yes, the Loxia 50/2 has that mojo in micro-contrast and color tones but I think the 50/2 APO got that covered as well.
The Zeiss looks sharper in the corners to me, and you mentioned you prefer the color rendering of the CV in the corners, but actually doesn’t it look like a magenta color cast? And in the center the colors are similar in both lenses, and the color in the corners with the Zeiss looks more consistent with the centre, right?
numbertwo wrote:
The Zeiss looks sharper in the corners to me, and you mentioned you prefer the color rendering of the CV in the corners, but actually doesn’t it look like a magenta color cast? And in the center the colors are similar in both lenses, and the color in the corners with the Zeiss looks more consistent with the centre, right?
Generally speaking, Sony and Zony lenses have a greenish cast whereas Voigtlander and Loxia lenses are more bias towards the red/magenta. I prefer the latter but this can be subjective.