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p.9 #8 · Sony FE 600mm f/4 GM Image Thread | |
ChrisMak wrote:
Yes, the 200-600 Sony lens looks like a great option. It was not there yet when I went for the 400DOII, but had it been, I am almost sure that I would have gone all Sony. But now having the 400DOII and 7DII, there are a few things that hold me back from putting the Canon gear up for sale:
-The 400DOII is f5.6 vs. f6.3 for the Sony 200-600. It may not seem much, but even f5.6 seems already on the edge unless in full bright daylight, especially when adding a 1.4TC. You of course have the 600GM f4 for occassions where the light is less than ideal, but when the 200-600 is all that you've got... I don't believe it to be 600mm b.t.w. as comparisons with the 600GM indicate, more around 570mm? On the other hand, I am not sure what the true focal length of the Canon 400DOII is either.
-IS is superb on the 400DOII, really amazing. I came from a Pentax DA560mm f5.6 on a K3II body, and the IS on the Canon with 1.4TC (also 560mm) is simply superb. If you only shoot handheld as I do, that counts a lot.
-AF is really fast, über fast, on the 400DOII. If Canon makes a 7DIII with really good AF, it will surely leave the Sony 200-600 in the dust AF wise I assume?
-Sony has NO decent APS-C body for birders. Why, and will they ever have? The A6500 makes me shiver... I have the Sony A7RII b.t.w. with the Loxia lenses for all general shooting and love it.
-Canon still offers the possibility of an OVF. Although I really appreciate EVF technology, and sensor based AF accuracy, it is still nice to sometimes have the possibility of a good OVF
I may add a Sony 200-600 in future though, especially when Canon fails to deliver a 7DIII, but the 400DOII is not an easy lens to part with.
Chris
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-The 400DOII is f5.6 vs. f6.3 for the Sony 200-600. It may not seem much, but even f5.6 seems already on the edge unless in full bright daylight, especially when adding a 1.4TC. You of course have the 600GM f4 for occassions where the light is less than ideal, but when the 200-600 is all that you've got... I don't believe it to be 600mm b.t.w. as comparisons with the 600GM indicate, more around 570mm? On the other hand, I am not sure what the true focal length of the Canon 400DOII is either.
If the 1/3 stop matters then it matters, I agree it doesn't take much to make f/5.6 challenge the ISO and SS for BIF. For perched birds I find it fine in cloudy conditions. Yes the real focal length of the 200-600 is essentially equal to the 560mm of the 400DOII/1.4TC in my testing of an average distance to bird...maybe gets slightly better at infinity? You aren't gaining the 40mm of focal length, not that 40mm is much anyways at super-tele levels
-IS is superb on the 400DOII, really amazing. I came from a Pentax DA560mm f5.6 on a K3II body, and the IS on the Canon with 1.4TC (also 560mm) is simply superb. If you only shoot handheld as I do, that counts a lot.
Yes Canon IS is excellent, but the combination of IBIS and lens OSS is even better.
-AF is really fast, über fast, on the 400DOII. If Canon makes a 7DIII with really good AF, it will surely leave the Sony 200-600 in the dust AF wise I assume?
7D2 and 400DOII is very quick AF. But the 200-600 on A9 is much better AF consistency and the tracking modes blow away anything Canon offers for really fast/erratic BIF. I shot ducks in flight with 7D2/400DOII back to back with A9/100-400GM and the Sony resulted in a lot more sharp images to cull through for the best wing position. Will a 7D3 all of a sudden rival the A9?....Who knows but I would seriously doubt it.
-Sony has NO decent APS-C body for birders. Why, and will they ever have? The A6500 makes me shiver... I have the Sony A7RII b.t.w. with the Loxia lenses for all general shooting and love it.
Very true, my one holdback with Sony is I'm really only happy with the A9's EVF experience and therefore I lack pixel density compared to a 7D2 or D500/850
-Canon still offers the possibility of an OVF. Although I really appreciate EVF technology, and sensor based AF accuracy, it is still nice to sometimes have the possibility of a good OVF
Yes, OVF's still have a place for me also, there are only a few things I prefer with the EVF (Histogram/WYSISYG, blackout free and using the flip screen with full functioning AF for low down shots). But I find the EVF adds eye stress, is too contrasty and of course wastes battery if you stare through it waiting for action to happen.
I may add a Sony 200-600 in future though, especially when Canon fails to deliver a 7DIII, but the 400DOII is not an easy lens to part with.
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