Has anyone tried the Jobu Jr 3 gimbal with the 600mm GM, A9ii and 1.4x or 2x extender? Half the weight of other gimbals and more compact, should be nicer for longer hikes if it works well.
askal wrote:
Has anyone tried the Jobu Jr 3 gimbal with the 600mm GM, A9ii and 1.4x or 2x extender? Half the weight of other gimbals and more compact, should be nicer for longer hikes if it works well.
Yes but the Wimberley WH-200 is so nice I have two now on two RRS34 tripods. I have toyed with trying the RRS gimble since everything they have is so nice but the WH-200's are awfully good.
I am sure the Jobu would work fine but I like the more substantial looks and feel of the Wimberley.
askal wrote:
Has anyone tried the Jobu Jr 3 gimbal with the 600mm GM, A9ii and 1.4x or 2x extender? Half the weight of other gimbals and more compact, should be nicer for longer hikes if it works well.
Now, we are talking..... A shooting buddy of mine used that gimbal head for her 200-600mm in Ecuador. For whatever reasons, while in there, I didn't try putting my lens on the gimbal head to try it out. But I borrowed that from her after coming back home. I put my GM 600mm plus 2X TC and a camera body on that gimbal head. And that gimbal head tested out really well. All actions are smooth and it is sturdy without any indication of wobbliness throughout. That gimbal head is rated to support 12lbs; the lens plus TC and camera is only pushing 10lbs. So, the total weight is well within its rating.
I placed a WTB for a week and didn't get any response. Last Monday, I placed an order for that gimbal on B&H. I will get it this coming Friday. Next, I will sell my Wimberley WH-200 and Series 3 Gitzo tripod and I will use my Series 2 Gitzo tripod outfitted with the Jobu Jr. 3 Deluxe for a significantly lighter total package. That's the added benefits of using lighter lens/camera combo; your support gear will get lighter and more compact as well.
askal wrote:
Has anyone tried the Jobu Jr 3 gimbal with the 600mm GM, A9ii and 1.4x or 2x extender? Half the weight of other gimbals and more compact, should be nicer for longer hikes if it works well.
I have that combo with A9. Works great though I rarely use it, prefer hand holding.
askal wrote:
Has anyone tried the Jobu Jr 3 gimbal with the 600mm GM, A9ii and 1.4x or 2x extender? Half the weight of other gimbals and more compact, should be nicer for longer hikes if it works well.
Although not using Sony, fellow FM member Pius Sullivan uses the Jr 3 for his Canon 600III (same weight as 600GM). Not only that he used to use that little gimbal with his 600II (a few pounds heavier than 600GM). He is using that gimbal with 1DXII on those lenses so even more weight than Sony.
He found it just fine for his 600II, although he doesn't use it much anymore as he almost always handholds his 600III.
AGeoJO wrote:
Now, we are talking..... A shooting buddy of mine used that gimbal head for her 200-600mm in Ecuador. For whatever reasons, while in there, I didn't try putting my lens on the gimbal head to try it out. But I borrowed that from her after coming back home. I put my GM 600mm plus 2X TC and a camera body on that gimbal head. And that gimbal head tested out really well. All actions are smooth and it is sturdy without any indication of wobbliness throughout. That gimbal head is rated to support 12lbs; the lens plus TC and camera is only pushing 10lbs. So, the total weight is well within its rating.
I placed a WTB for a week and didn't get any response. Last Monday, I placed an order for that gimbal on B&H. I will get it this coming Friday. Next, I will sell my Wimberley WH-200 and Series 3 Gitzo tripod and I will use my Series 2 Gitzo tripod outfitted with the Jobu Jr. 3 Deluxe for a significantly lighter total package. That's the added benefits of using lighter lens/camera combo; your support gear will get lighter and more compact as well....Show more →
I was set on a series 3 Gitzo but will get series 2 instead. Thanks for all the helpful information. I go backpacking with ultralight gear so I'm used to really counting the ounces : ). The lens coat or Rolanpro adds maybe a quarter to less than half a pound, though it protects the lens. One silly question: do you think a big white lens scares the birds?
askal wrote:
I was set on a series 3 Gitzo but will get series 2 instead. Thanks for all the helpful information. I go backpacking with ultralight gear so I'm used to really counting the ounces : ). The lens coat or Rolanpro adds maybe a quarter to less than half a pound, though it protects the lens. One silly question: do you think a big white lens scares the birds?
I understand your point. Although I don’t backpack but I go travel by airplane with my gear quite a bit and indeed every ounce counts, too. I do use some camouflaged lens coat on my white lenses.
But to be honest, it is more for protection as I carry them inside my roller carry-on luggage side-by-side with a lens cradle from a TT lens limo. The cameras, TCs, another regular lens or more lenses are carried inside pouches in the same carry-on luggage. BTW, the carry-on roller luggage is just a regular roller bag, but a very lightweight one. The tripod and gimbal, etc. goes into the check-in luggage.
Oh, I use a short generic lens hood for the GM 600mm. The length of that is about half of the original. Although it is slightly lighter, the shorter lens hood helps for handholding under windy conditions. To be frank, I handhold with the help of a stock shoulder. I need all the help I can get supporting the lens at my age, although technically it is still considered handholding.
AGeoJO wrote:
I understand your point. Although I don’t backpack but I go travel by airplane with my gear quite a bit and indeed every ounce counts, too. I do use some camouflaged lens coat on my white lenses.
But to be honest, it is more for protection as I carry them inside my roller carry-on luggage side-by-side with a lens cradle from a TT lens limo. The cameras, TCs, another regular lens or more lenses are carried inside pouches in the same carry-on luggage. BTW, the carry-on roller luggage is just a regular roller bag, but a very lightweight one. The tripod and gimbal, etc. goes into the check-in luggage.
Oh, I use a short generic lens hood for the GM 600mm. The length of that is about half of the original. Although it is slightly lighter, the shorter lens hood helps for handholding under windy conditions. To be frank, I handhold with the help of a stock shoulder. I need all the help I can get supporting the lens at my age, although technically it is still considered handholding.
What is the short lens hood you are using for the 600 Joshua? It is a soft one or hard? I really hate the huge 600/4 lens hoods but not sure I have the guts to try this on a $950 hood... https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1621115
arbitrage wrote:
What is the short lens hood you are using for the 600 Joshua? It is a soft one or hard? I really hate the huge 600/4 lens hoods but not sure I have the guts to try this on a $950 hood... https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1621115
Geoff, I bought it from someone that made it using a 3-D printer. That was his last one and his printer broke down afterwards. It was originally designed/made for Canon 600mm f/4 Mark II. It is rigid and it helps absorbing some bumps, in other words and I like it that way. BTW, I paid $160 for it. Frankly, not cheap either but the original short lens hood from Canon is $569... ouch.
There are two types of soft hoods available on the market but their length is basically the same as the original. I am sure either one can be cut shorter. I would go that route if I have to buy another.
arbitrage wrote:
What is the short lens hood you are using for the 600 Joshua? It is a soft one or hard? I really hate the huge 600/4 lens hoods but not sure I have the guts to try this on a $950 hood... https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1621115
trstahly wrote:
I have not even tried hand holding my 600GM do you use the hood when you hand hold and do you find it easy to track birds handholding the big guy?
I have the hood on all the time, don't bother taking it off when I am done. My gear is in always ready state, I can grab it and put it in the truck any time without packing/unpacking. I have no problem tracking BIF handholding this, but I can't hold it and wait for the bird to take off
A9ii will be my first Sony. I'm assuming you can charge the battery while it's inside the camera, with a powerbank, through a USB-C or micro USB cable (for off grid charging when you can't use the AC wall wart)?
One more: I've read that Sony firmware updates can cause error messages when using third party batteries, so It's better to stick to original Sony batteries?
askal wrote:
A9ii will be my first Sony. I'm assuming you can charge the battery while it's inside the camera, with a powerbank, through a USB-C or micro USB cable (for off grid charging when you can't use the AC wall wart)?
One more: I've read that Sony firmware updates can cause error messages when using third party batteries, so It's better to stick to original Sony batteries?
Congrats on your new Sony A9 II! Yes, you can do that although in my experience a fully charged battery will last quite a long time. Typically, I could get over 1K images on a single charge. It also depends on shooting circumstances, of course, and how much you view your images in between, etc.
I have not heard about usage of generic batteries can cause error during a FW update. Talking about FW updates, if you are using Mac, the process can be quite finicky. You have to follow the instruction on how to do that step by step without any deviation.
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I received the Jobu Jr. Deluxe yesterday and put it in action today. It did what I expected it to do. Yes, it will replace the Wimberley... and I save some weight that way, including the Series-2 Gitzo tripod.
Nothing special but it is colorful and the details are there. The lighting was just fine to get those aspects out and why not take advantage of those...
AGeoJO wrote:
Congrats on your new Sony A9 II! Yes, you can do that although in my experience a fully charged battery will last quite a long time. Typically, I could get over 1K images on a single charge. It also depends on shooting circumstances, of course, and how much you view your images in between, etc.
I have not heard about usage of generic batteries can cause error during a FW update. Talking about FW updates, if you are using Mac, the process can be quite finicky. You have to follow the instruction on how to do that step by step without any deviation.
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I received the Jobu Jr. Deluxe yesterday and put it in action today. It did what I expected it to do. Yes, it will replace the Wimberley... Nothing special but it is colorful and the details are there and the lighting was just fine to get those aspects out......Show more →
Thanks, not during the actual update, but after. Here's a quote off an Amazon review:
"Answer:I bought six of these batteries for Sony a9 in the last four months and the new
Firmware 6 made these useless due to power incompatibility warning that pops up on the camera randomly. I can’t use these because I missed an important photo due to battery warning which you have to click twice to dismiss. Ravpower batteries are
Only good till Sony upgrades their firmware then you have a battery that is useless.
By x9345134 on October 3, 2019"
There's no lens foot plate included with the Jobu Jr, right? So I still have to get a plate or replacement foot to mount the 600mm f/4 GM?
askal wrote:
Thanks, not during the actual update, but after. Here's a quote off an Amazon review:
"Answer:I bought six of these batteries for Sony a9 in the last four months and the new
Firmware 6 made these useless due to power incompatibility warning that pops up on the camera randomly. I can’t use these because I missed an important photo due to battery warning which you have to click twice to dismiss. Ravpower batteries are
Only good till Sony upgrades their firmware then you have a battery that is useless.
By x9345134 on October 3, 2019"
There's no lens foot plate included with the Jobu Jr, right? So I still have to get a plate or replacement foot to mount the 600mm f/4 GM?
Oh, okay, I am not aware of the issue at all. To be honest, I am sticking with Sony OEM batteries right now. They are not that much more expensive. You may just need a single spare battery since they hold charge really well anyway. Now that you are aware of that potential issues, I am not sure whether it is worth risking it.
When I was in Ecuador recently, I had 3 camera bodies with me and just a single spare battery. i ended up using only 2 cameras and I charged the batteries in them each night.
There is no lens foot place included with the Jobu Jr. 3. Yes, you have to buy a separate replacement foot and mine was a left over from my Canon lens that I sold already.
AGeoJO wrote:
Oh, okay, I am not aware of the issue at all. To be honest, I am sticking with Sony OEM batteries right now. They are not that much more expensive. You may just need a single spare battery since they hold charge really well anyway. Now that you are aware of that potential issues, I am not sure whether it is worth risking it.
When I was in Ecuador recently, I had 3 camera bodies with me and just a single spare battery. i ended up using only 2 cameras and I charged the batteries in them each night.
There is no lens foot place included with the Jobu Jr. 3. Yes, you have to buy a separate replacement foot and mine was a left over from my Canon lens that I sold already. ...Show more →
My 600mm GM arrives next week unless the Hongkong street protests delay it. I want to try the factory foot before deciding if I need a Wimberley AP-616 replacement. In the meantime there are China made plates I can buy for cheap. Do I need one with 1 or 2 adjustable screws? Thanks!
. A shooting buddy of mine used that gimbal head for her 200-600mm in Ecuador. For whatever reasons, while in there, I didn't try putting my lens on the gimbal head to try it out. But I borrowed that from her after coming back home. I put my GM 600mm plus 2X TC and a camera body on that gimbal head. And that gimbal head tested out really well. All actions are smooth and it is sturdy without any indication of wobbliness throughout. That gimbal head is rated to support 12lbs; the lens plus TC and camera is only pushing 10lbs. So, the total weight is well within its rating.
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