p.40 #1 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
I haven’t read this entire thread, but does anyone think the RRS replacement foot for the sel100400GM/Sel70200GM will be compatible with the new Sel200600g?
I know it’s unlikely anyone knows for sure at this point in time, but I have the RRS foot on my 100-400 already. Might be cool if I could use it on this new lens.
I heard a few people complain that the RRS foot is too long on the 100-400, but the extra length is probably a good thing with the 200-600.
p.40 #3 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
robert614 wrote:
I haven’t read this entire thread, but does anyone think the RRS replacement foot for the sel100400GM/Sel70200GM will be compatible with the new Sel200600g?
I know it’s unlikely anyone knows for sure at this point in time, but I have the RRS foot on my 100-400 already. Might be cool if I could use it on this new lens.
I heard a few people complain that the RRS foot is too long on the 100-400, but the extra length is probably a good thing with the 200-600.
p.40 #4 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
arbitrage wrote:
What irritates me the most about these Sony press events is all these YouTubers come and don't bring any other gear to compare to or bring TCs or bring an A73 or A7R3 or A6400 etc.
I realize Sony wouldn't have told them what product they were releasing but if they checked up on SAR they would have had a good guess it was a longer lens. I surely would have brought along a 100-400, TCs and any other Sony bodies I owned (and most of these guys own a number of them) to compare. They had an entire Soccer match and more time the next day to at least get a feel for how they compared and how the performance changed on the other cameras.
Unless Sony lets some of them have the gear for a few weeks back home, we won't get any more details or comparisons till after the lenses are shipping. I'd surely like to know more before forking over the cash but I also don't want to be at the end of a backordered line for months like the 500PF....Show more →
Already watched a guy take the 200-600 to Scotland to shoot osprey in the rain and low light at ISO 25600 and basically every shot was good and he said AF is excellent and had no trouble on the A9 at all. He said he’ll be adding to his collection.
p.40 #5 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
AGeoJO wrote:
Geoff, the length of the Sony 200-600mm when being used is not bad at all and chances are due to its internal zoom mechanism, it will be more comfortable to hold than the other zoom lenses with their extended zooming design. The only drawback of the internal zooming design that I can think of right now, is the length during transport while in the bag. The collapsible zoom design makes those lenses easier to pack and transport.
Exactly. The sigma 150-600 Sports I had and the sigma 60-600 Sports I bought a month ago(), when fully extended to 600mm, it’s quite front heavy, I can’t support it with my left arm for more than 40-50 seconds. But they are shorter to carry than the Sony beast for sure, that’s why I am looking for a new bag, my Tenba is 3” too short. One thing I really like about the Sony is it seems pretty easy to zoom from 200 to 600 , and from 600 to 200.
p.40 #6 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
arbitrage wrote:
Not sure why not a single reviewer couldn't bother to take a quick photo of the 1-4 extended next to the 200-600.
I mocked it up. Couldn't find a decent image of the teleconvertor, but you can see that with the TC the 100-400mm will be about the same length as the 200-600mm. And the Tamron will be quite a bit longer.
200-600mm, 100-400mm extended fully and Tamron 150-500mm (retracted)
p.40 #7 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
For those that are going to or consider the purchase of the new lens and/or sell their 100-400mm GM:
Minimum focus for the 100-400mmm GM is 3.22 ft = 0.98 m
Minimum focus for the 200-600mm is 7.88 ft = 2.4 m
If you find that you will need to focus as closely as the 100-400mm GM you may wish to consider carrying an extension tube at least when you expect to be in situations where you will need to focus closer than the capabilities of the lens.
p.40 #8 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
I took the plunge and pre-ordered it at B&H. I'll likely end up using it more on the A6400 than my A7R3. Maybe on the A7R3 for more static work like birds perched on a tree of larger animals that are relatively static.
p.40 #9 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
I ordered mine from B&H at 11:00 AM EST. Will wait to see it before I decide if my 100-400mm GM will stay on board. Answer is probably yes since they pack so differently in size but we will see.
p.40 #12 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
robert614 wrote:
I haven’t read this entire thread, but does anyone think the RRS replacement foot for the sel100400GM/Sel70200GM will be compatible with the new Sel200600g?
I know it’s unlikely anyone knows for sure at this point in time, but I have the RRS foot on my 100-400 already. Might be cool if I could use it on this new lens.
I heard a few people complain that the RRS foot is too long on the 100-400, but the extra length is probably a good thing with the 200-600.
It most likely will fit, although it's also likely RRS will say "no" just to get people to buy another new foot...
p.40 #13 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
arbitrage wrote:
What irritates me the most about these Sony press events is all these YouTubers come and don't bring any other gear to compare to or bring TCs or bring an A73 or A7R3 or A6400 etc.
I realize Sony wouldn't have told them what product they were releasing but if they checked up on SAR they would have had a good guess it was a longer lens. I surely would have brought along a 100-400, TCs and any other Sony bodies I owned (and most of these guys own a number of them) to compare. They had an entire Soccer match and more time the next day to at least get a feel for how they compared and how the performance changed on the other cameras.
Unless Sony lets some of them have the gear for a few weeks back home, we won't get any more details or comparisons till after the lenses are shipping. I'd surely like to know more before forking over the cash but I also don't want to be at the end of a backordered line for months like the 500PF....Show more →
Hop on a plane to Calgary, Geoff - The Camera Store will have the new lenses on hand this weekend.
p.40 #14 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
robert614 wrote:
I haven’t read this entire thread, but does anyone think the RRS replacement foot for the sel100400GM/Sel70200GM will be compatible with the new Sel200600g?
I know it’s unlikely anyone knows for sure at this point in time, but I have the RRS foot on my 100-400 already. Might be cool if I could use it on this new lens.
I heard a few people complain that the RRS foot is too long on the 100-400, but the extra length is probably a good thing with the 200-600.
I'm betting on it fitting. I would think Sony would have used the same sized mount on this lens. Looks the same anyways.
I like the length of the RRS foot on my 100-400. I'm actually wondering if I will find the foot a little short on the 200-600. We shall see.
p.40 #15 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
molson wrote:
Hop on a plane to Calgary, Geoff - The Camera Store will have the new lenses on hand this weekend.
That would be tempting. I wonder if Kerrisdale would have them?...but probably TCS having them is more related to their YouTube channel and their hosts being at the event.
The good news is that means other reviewers may have them this week to start doing better tests/videos that address all the questions and comparisons. IQ/AF compared to 100-400/1.4, size differences, handling differences and performance on other bodies than the A9 with and without TCs.
p.40 #16 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
Pre-order is in for me. Orders started 30 minutes ago, based on initial reviews and responses, it seems very favorable. It will not replace the 100-400 IMO, but it will be a powerful counter to it. If it turns out it can replace it... best to get those 100-400 on the buy and sell boards early ;-)
p.40 #18 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
Steve Spencer wrote:
...when the area of a sensor that you are using is twice as big as the area of another sensor you are using you have an additional stop of light.
When the light is spread over a larger sensor area, the intensity of the light reaching the sensor is reduced according to the inverse square law. So, for a sensor twice as big, the light intensity is reduced by four times, and you are in fact losing two stops of light with the larger sensor. Simple physics...
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p.40 #19 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
molson wrote:
When the light is spread over a larger sensor area, the intensity of the light reaching the sensor is reduced according to the inverse square law. So, for a sensor twice as big, the light intensity is reduced by four times, and you are in fact losing two stops of light with the larger sensor. Simple physics...
No Cliff, you are wrong about that. The brightness is the same at the same aperture. The formula for the amount of light is Brightness X Area X Time. Brightness is controlled by the aperture. Area is controlled by the size of the part of the sensor you are using, and time is controlled by shutter speed. That give you the amount of light the sensor has to work with.
What you said above is only true if you keep the amount of light constant, but if the brightness of the light is controlled by the aperture, which it is, then that formula does not apply.
p.40 #20 · Pre-order: Sony FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 G OSS ($1,998)
Steve Spencer wrote:
No Cliff, you are wrong about that. The brightness is the same at the same aperture. The formula for the amount of light is Brightness X Area X Time. Brightness is controlled by the aperture. Area is controlled by the size of the part of the sensor you are using, and time is controlled by shutter speed. That give you the amount of light the sensor has to work with.
What you said above is only true if you keep the amount of light constant, but if the brightness of the light is controlled by the aperture, which it is, then that formula does not apply....Show more →
kind of - logic says that the area of light that is reflected through an optic is not collected light, but projected. Thus the projection of the light is the area that is applied. In a smaller sensor, you get that "crop" factor because the light is only being captured from the central zone. The excess light is then difussed by the housing / padding, etc. You do not gain or lose light based on sensor size. I wish people would understand that better. Then again, perhaps I'm the one with the twisted view on it?
), when fully extended to 600mm, it’s quite front heavy, I can’t support it with my left arm for more than 40-50 seconds. But they are shorter to carry than the Sony beast for sure, that’s why I am looking for a new bag, my Tenba is 3” too short. One thing I really like about the Sony is it seems pretty easy to zoom from 200 to 600 , and from 600 to 200.