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p.3 #1 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


So, who's actually using and liking my profile/presets combo and finding a good improvement over adobe profiles? I need some feedback haha.


May 29, 2019 at 11:17 PM
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p.3 #2 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9




vdo1 wrote:
The in camera "creative styles" are also available in Sony's Imaging Edge RAW converter:

https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/app/imagingedge/en/

Also useful to replicate "Sony jpg colors", by default it will produce images similar to what the in camera jpg converter would produce.



Oh wow I didn’t know about that at all. That program is so slow, even with my high end PC, but it works and that’s what matters. Big thanks!



May 30, 2019 at 04:20 AM
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derKoekje wrote:
Oh wow I didn’t know about that at all. That program is so slow, even with my high end PC, but it works and that’s what matters. Big thanks!


Maybe Sony should spend some time with the RAW converter developers like Adobe and Phase One and help them actually add the options for their picture profiles and creative styles. Or at least for Capture One, since they have that supposed "partnership" together.



Jun 01, 2019 at 05:09 AM
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p.3 #4 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


Isn’t it Fuji with the partnership? Since they give you C1 whenever you buy a Fuji.


Jun 01, 2019 at 05:13 AM
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Jun 01, 2019 at 10:10 AM
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p.3 #6 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


Is this possible for the A7R2 please? A preset/profile?


Jun 04, 2019 at 04:16 PM
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zurih wrote:
Is this possible for the A7R2 please? A preset/profile?


Please read the reply #12 in this thread.



Jun 04, 2019 at 10:31 PM
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p.3 #8 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


Damn I missed it thank you! Very much appreciated!

It's a copy paste of a7r3 profile that works with r2 files or a bit different modifications?

numbertwo wrote:
Please read the reply #12 in this thread.




Jun 05, 2019 at 01:04 AM
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I have tried it a few times and I love the skin tones! That said, I do find it extremely limiting to surrender control of the curves in LR or Camera Raw. I assume there is no way to make this work with just a DCP profile? This is the only finished shot I have used it on and I wound up using it for skin color only using masks in PS and the color blending mode. I did everything else independently. Thanks for the hard work!

Michael & Anniwaa by Matt and Jess Feinman, on Flickr


numbertwo wrote:
So, who's actually using and liking my profile/presets combo and finding a good improvement over adobe profiles? I need some feedback haha.



Jun 05, 2019 at 01:30 AM
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p.3 #10 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


I'm using it. Honestly I don't know how I lived before that's so much better now!

numbertwo wrote:
So, who's actually using and liking my profile/presets combo and finding a good improvement over adobe profiles? I need some feedback haha.




Jun 05, 2019 at 01:39 AM
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zurih wrote:
Damn I missed it thank you! Very much appreciated!

It's a copy paste of a7r3 profile that works with r2 files or a bit different modifications?



Those are actually the original versions of the preset/profile. I had a a7r2 before and I started making them for that camera. The rest of the cameras are ports of the a7r2, until I started basing on the a73...



Jun 05, 2019 at 06:08 AM
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p.3 #12 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


fuzzykeys wrote:
I have tried it a few times and I love the skin tones! That said, I do find it extremely limiting to surrender control of the curves in LR or Camera Raw. I assume there is no way to make this work with just a DCP profile? This is the only finished shot I have used it on and I wound up using it for skin color only using masks in PS and the color blending mode. I did everything else independently. Thanks for the hard work!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47904524451_914ca1893c_b.jpgMichael & Anniwaa by Matt and Jess Feinman, on Flickr



In photoshop (not in lightroom) you can make a profile from the preset/profile combo pressing the option key (alt in windows) and the button to create a new preset (you need to have selected the preset beforehand). This way you can create one of these new "enhanced profiles", BUT:
- The camera calibration sliders are not taken into account, so you still need a new preset with these enhanced profile created and manually introduce the camera calibration values.
- The original profile still needs to stay installed.
The good thing is that you'll start from clean curves and HSL panels.

Very nice picture by the way



Jun 05, 2019 at 06:15 AM
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Thanks! I will have to try this. It will create a profile that I can use in LR?

numbertwo wrote:
In photoshop (not in lightroom) you can make a profile from the preset/profile combo pressing the option key (alt in windows) and the button to create a new preset (you need to have selected the preset beforehand). This way you can create one of these new "enhanced profiles", BUT:
- The camera calibration sliders are not taken into account, so you still need a new preset with these enhanced profile created and manually introduce the camera calibration values.
- The original profile still needs to stay installed.
The good thing is that you'll start from clean curves and HSL panels.

Very nice picture by
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Jun 06, 2019 at 09:05 PM
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fuzzykeys wrote:
Thanks! I will have to try this. It will create a profile that I can use in LR?



I've made 2 enhanced profiles for testing already, I think they look very good. Only for a73, but you can change the camera model restriction just opening the xmp with the notebook app or something I think.

https://mega.nz/#F!tdoDRSIK!dVJA5gjfLrww34sGBQdqEw

The normal one internally uses the 3.1 profile (so high contrast, more finished look, more 3dpop), and the low one uses the 2edit profile (less contrast, maybe more suitable as a base).

They're made without using the camera calibration sliders, so they just work only with the profiles.

Tell me.what you think



Jun 06, 2019 at 10:08 PM
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p.3 #15 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


Hmm will that work for the A7RII?

Also, I find your profile very good for natural light, especially outdoors. Do you have any sort of a profile for artificial light? Colors seems to be very off when I shoot indoors.

numbertwo wrote:
I've made 2 enhanced profiles for testing already, I think they look very good. Only for a73, but you can change the camera model restriction just opening the xmp with the notebook app or something I think.

https://mega.nz/#F!tdoDRSIK!dVJA5gjfLrww34sGBQdqEw

The normal one internally uses the 3.1 profile (so high contrast, more finished look, more 3dpop), and the low one uses the 2edit profile (less contrast, maybe more suitable as a base).

They're made without using the camera calibration sliders, so they just work only with the profiles.

Tell me.what you think




Jun 07, 2019 at 01:32 AM
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p.3 #16 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


Sorry, but how do I load the dcp file in adobe camera raw? thanks.


Jun 08, 2019 at 11:33 AM
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p.3 #17 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


The last link with the "enhanced profiles" is only for a73, but you can try and modify the file in the notepad, look for "Sony ilce-7m3" and change it for "Sony ilce-7r2", save and check if it works.

I made a couple more of this enhanced profiles for artificial light, I'll post them tomorrow, but you can just use some of the presets in the previous folders. There are many presets, some of them are calibrated for artificial lights and some others for daylight, try them and see which ones you like depending on the situation...

zurih wrote:
Hmm will that work for the A7RII?

Also, I find your profile very good for natural light, especially outdoors. Do you have any sort of a profile for artificial light? Colors seems to be very off when I shoot indoors.





Jun 08, 2019 at 12:02 PM
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p.3 #18 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


If you have one of the new versions, there should be a "+" button in the profile list so you can quickly add the dcp profile that way. Otherwise, copy and paste the file in the camera raw/camera profiles folder (that's in a different route depending on whether you're using Mac or Windows, Google it).

keema wrote:
Sorry, but how do I load the dcp file in adobe camera raw? thanks.




Jun 08, 2019 at 12:04 PM
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p.3 #19 · Canon Colors on Sony a7III/A7R3/A9


Thanks @numbertwo. But when I am importing it, I can't select the dcp files, it is grayed out in my mac.

Also, I am converting my sony a6400 raw's to dng's.



Jun 08, 2019 at 12:41 PM
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Are you doing any new ones for A9?


Jun 08, 2019 at 01:05 PM
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