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Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review

  
 
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p.8 #1 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
Come on guys! By now we should get this right...

Which one is which?


If you haven’t messed up with the colors I’d say B is Sony since it’s a tad cooler.




Mar 19, 2019 at 05:29 PM
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vdo1 wrote:
If you haven’t messed up with the colors I’d say B is Sony since it’s a tad cooler.



I'm shooting at 5800 degrees Kelvin white balance for both lenses.

For "Example 3" above I only changed the Sony to 6000K (That's a small change) just to confuse you guys.

All other setting were exactly the same (LR default settings) including exposure.



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:33 PM
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p.8 #3 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


GMPhotography wrote:
Now on my computer the above crop the GM seems to have more 3d effect. That center blade just stands out more

BTW dont use your iPhone. Threw me way off



3D'ness is in the eye of the beholder



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:33 PM
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p.8 #4 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


I’d say B is Sony


Mar 19, 2019 at 05:34 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I’d say B is Sony


I don't blame you, they are very similar" but "A" is Sony for example 3.

Here is a crop from "Example 3" above showing the area of focus. They are similar here but the Sony is bit sharper. They seem to share similar LoCA correction.







Mar 19, 2019 at 05:35 PM
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p.8 #6 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


I'm choosing B too, but this is making my pre-order a little tougher to swallow. Think I need to wait to see how the AF compares (and eye AF) because IQ is almost a wash

Doh....case and point...I was wrong

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Mar 19, 2019 at 05:37 PM
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p.8 #7 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Well I am on the smaller screen now but everyone is saying B is Sony so I am confused because on the first 2, the Sigma bokeh was a little smoother yet on this one I find B to be smoother so if it is Sony like the others are saying..then I am lost


Mar 19, 2019 at 05:37 PM
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p.8 #8 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


My eyes are really messed up today. Wow

I know one thing for sure I ain’t cancelling my Pre-Order. The bokeh diffrence is really nil. Warmer color is no big deal. What I do see though is more depth and sharpness on the Sony and we will see this more on your resolution test. Now my first 2 where on my phone. Last one though was my IPad. So I need my computer for this it’s really dang close.



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:40 PM
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p.8 #9 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Sony is sharper, how cropped is the crop? 100%?


Mar 19, 2019 at 05:40 PM
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GabrielPhoto wrote:
Well I am on the smaller screen now but everyone is saying B is Sony so I am confused because on the first 2, the Sigma bokeh was a little smoother yet on this one I find B to be smoother so if it is Sony like the others are saying..then I am lost


Just freaking order it already.



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p.8 #11 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I don't blame you, they are very similar" but "A" is Sony for example 3.

Here is a crop from "Example 3" above showing the area of focus. They are similar here but the Sony is bit sharper. They seem to share similar LoCA correction.


That’s pretty dang sharp bud. Wow

On the girls I felt they where oversharpened which I know you don’t do. So people shots we are going to have to go negative on settings it seems. Fine with me bring it on



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:42 PM
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p.8 #12 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Matt Kerby wrote:
Sony is sharper, how cropped is the crop? 100%?


They are mostly 1:1 (100% or pixel level) unless noted.



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:43 PM
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p.8 #13 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


How about one at longer distance (25 feet) with a very challenging background?

This time I will show some crops to help out.




Example 4







(1:2 mag.) A = left | B = right







(1:1 mag.) A = left | B = right







(1:1 mag.) A = left | B = right (see LoCA difference)




Mar 19, 2019 at 05:50 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Just freaking order it already.


hahahah I was waiting for this test but I have picked the Sigma on all 3 based on the smoother bokeh even when on the first test I thought that was the Sony. The Sony does have the sharpness advantage and could be a big deal when even higher MP bodies arrive as even on the A7R3 you can still notice when cropping. BUT to me all Sigma images are showing an extra 3Dish look (which is the main reason I picked the Sigma image on the first test thinking it was the GM).
We shall see how the Eye AF test turns out as that is crucial for me.



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:50 PM
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p.8 #15 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
How about one at longer distance (25 feet) with a very challenging background?

This time I will show some crops as well


wow this sample 4 is making it very hard for me to see the differences...need a few minutes

PS Based on the crop B should be Sigma..

Edited on Mar 19, 2019 at 05:54 PM · View previous versions



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:52 PM
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p.8 #16 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


No chance of comparison with Classic 2/135 apo sonnar (especially in respect of transition zone?)

(Sharp though the that lens was, state of the art for its day, I have no doubt it's less sharp than the Sony and likely the Sigma too, especially at infinity)

I have from previous brief comparison the idea that is was a bit smoother in the BG than Sigma, in which case it might be a bit better again than the GM. But not at all sure...


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Mar 19, 2019 at 05:52 PM
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p.8 #17 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Easy to see the difference in sharpness cropped, but we all got it wrong on the sample 3 images.

I'm guessing that, for some of us, the extra few ounces on the Sigma is $tarting to feel a bit le$$ $ignificant.

$trange...



A (based on the 1:2 cropped image above) is Sony

Edited on Mar 19, 2019 at 05:59 PM · View previous versions



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:52 PM
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p.8 #18 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


bluloo wrote:
Easy to see the difference in sharpness cropped, but we all got it wrong on the sample 3 images.

I'm guessing that, for some of us, the extra few ounces on the Sigma is $tarting to feel a bit le$$ $ignificant.

$trange...



A (based on the cropped image) is Sony


Technically I didnt get Samples 3 wrong...read my post, I was confused by everyone picking B as Sony when I was seeing smoother bokeh on it
Sample 4 is harder for me to pick though.

PS the added crop showing the sharper A makes it easier to pick A as the GM now lol



Mar 19, 2019 at 05:55 PM
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p.8 #19 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


A is Sony. If I’m wrong I’m hanging up my straps and retire.


Mar 19, 2019 at 06:00 PM
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p.8 #20 · Sony FE 135mm f/1.8 GM Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I don't blame you, they are very similar" but "A" is Sony for example 3.

Here is a crop from "Example 3" above showing the area of focus. They are similar here but the Sony is bit sharper. They seem to share similar LoCA correction.


Ok then the color differences are a wash and may go slightly one way or the other depending on the particular shot. So we can rule them out as a differentiating factor.

My bet is that, in the end, it will be the AF performance that will decide. Unfortunately Sigma didn’t do themselves any favor with the 35/1.4 one. It will cast a shadow forever.



Mar 19, 2019 at 06:00 PM
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