Shooting with the GR III, I’ve largely been going where the camera takes me, like the earlier, color, version of this shot posted above. You can get very good color out of this camera, and also good black and white, like the images from Paris that I’ve posted earlier. However, I am now trying out producing the higher contrast, more expressive images that interest me; and find the GR III to be malleable, even when using the 50mm EFOV crop facility, as I did in this image. Though, I have to say that the LR view of the full file has more dynamic range than this JPG, and therefore shows better a connection to the small Baoulé statue in the top right if the frame.
Ricoh GR III | ISO 800 | f/2.8 | 1/40 sec | 50mm EFOV crop facility
Mitch Alland wrote:
Shooting with the GR III, I’ve largely been going where the camera takes me, like the earlier, color, version of this shot posted above. You can get very good color out of this camera, and also good black and white, like the images from Paris that I’ve posted earlier. However, I am now trying out producing the higher contrast, more expressive images that interest me; and find the GR III to be malleable, even when using the 50mm EFOV crop facility, as I did in this image. Though, I have to say that the LR view of the full file has more dynamic range than this JPG, and therefore shows better a connection to the small Baoulé statue in the top right if the frame.
Thats a great photo, and I'm wondering, if you're using the 50mm crop mode, do you still get an uncropped 24mp version of the DNG? or is it instead a reduced resolution DNG?
Think I found the answer, I think the crop is only applied to the jpg, which is great imho, allows the crop mode to be used as a framing aid leaving the DNG unaffected for later cropping as desired.
No, actually the crop is applied to the DNG file, reducing it to 15 MB for the 35mm crop and to 7.5 MB for the 50 mm crop. But even the latter, smaller file is adequate as far I am concerned. As stated earlier in the thread, I've printed some 7 MB GRD3 files at 42 x 54 inches (105 x 137 mm).
Mitch Alland wrote:
No, actually the crop is applied to the DNG file, reducing it to 15 MB for the 35mm crop and to 7.5 MB for the 50 mm crop. But even the latter, smaller file is adequate as far I am concerned. As stated earlier in the thread, I've printed some 7 MB GRD3 files at 42 x 54 inches (105 x 137 mm).
Mitch Alland wrote:
No, actually the crop is applied to the DNG file, reducing it to 15 MB for the 35mm crop and to 7.5 MB for the 50 mm crop. But even the latter, smaller file is adequate as far I am concerned. As stated earlier in the thread, I've printed some 7 MB GRD3 files at 42 x 54 inches (105 x 137 mm).
So, turns out, if you shoot in crop mode, you do still get the full dng, but it has metadata telling any software to crop it, but the dng is still 30mb in size. The JPEG is reduced in file size, but that's understandable. So the crop mode becomes a really good framing tool.
I don't think so: I shoot only DNG, and have no JPG. Lightroom shows the dimension of a 50 mm crop DNG file to be 3360 x 2240 — if you crop it further in LR, the foregoing dimensions are shown, together with the (smaller) dimensions of the crop made within LR. Am I missing something?
Here are the specs on the Image CaptureImage Resolution:
6000 x 4000 (24.0 MP, 3:2),
4800 x 3200 (15.4 MP, 3:2),
3360 x 2240 (7.5 MP, 3:2),
1920 x 1080 (2.1 MP, 16:9),
4000 x 4000 (16.0 MP, 1:1),
3200 x 3200 (10.2 MP, 1:1),
2240 x 2240 (5.0 MP, 1:1),
1280 x 1280 (1.6 MP, 1:1)
robsonj wrote:
So, turns out, if you shoot in crop mode, you do still get the full dng, but it has metadata telling any software to crop it, but the dng is still 30mb in size. The JPEG is reduced in file size, but that's understandable. So the crop mode becomes a really good framing tool.
The cropped DNG files are indeed uncroppable using the Lightroom - recover edge plugin...
Mitch Alland wrote:
I don't think so: I shoot only DNG, and have no JPG. Lightroom shows the dimension of a 50 mm crop DNG file to be 3360 x 2240 — if you crop it further in LR, the foregoing dimensions are shown, together with the (smaller) dimensions of the crop made within LR. Am I missing something?
Here are the specs on the Image CaptureImage Resolution:
6000 x 4000 (24.0 MP, 3:2),
4800 x 3200 (15.4 MP, 3:2),
3360 x 2240 (7.5 MP, 3:2),
1920 x 1080 (2.1 MP, 16:9),
4000 x 4000 (16.0 MP, 1:1),
3200 x 3200 (10.2 MP, 1:1),
2240 x 2240 (5.0 MP, 1:1),
1280 x 1280 (1.6 MP, 1:1)...Show more →
Excuse the crummy photo, but I shot with 50mm crop in DNG+, so dng + jpeg. You'll see that the dng and jpg look the same and have the 50mm crop. the R0000246_full.DNG was created in post from R0000246.DNG by passing it through the Lightroom recover edge plugin, this plugin is effectively editing the dng exif metadata, which is the only difference between R0000246.DNG and R0000246_full.DNG. The plugin edits the exif data and resaves the DNG under the new filename. The original dng has the full uncropped photo data in it, plus metadata to say - hey photo software, show this photo cropped to the user.
Note, the jpeg produced at the time of shoot cannot be uncropped, that is produced at the reduced resolution in keeping with the selected crop level.
robsonj wrote:
...The cropped DNG files are indeed uncroppable using the Lightroom - recover edge plugin...
robsonj – Thanks. I tried the DNG Recover Edges plugin on a 50mm crop shot and, you're right, it recovers the whole 28 mm EFOV image to the full 6,020 x 4,024 dimensions. However, you can crop the full, recovered image by clicking on the lock icon in the LR Crop Overlay facility, so that the icon changes to the unlocked lock. So you were right in saying that "the crop mode becomes a really good framing tool", since you can reformat the shot to whatever dimensions you want.
But, for me, this is of limited usefulness generally — except, possibly, occasional shots with 35mm and 50mm crops where the framing was drastically wrong because of the rush of the moment when pressing the shutter. Another use could be for a book project in which you have the double-page spread in the 3:2 (W:H) aspect ratio (so the the single page aspect ratio is 3:4)— and you want to reformat vertical 35 and 50mm crop shots to the 3:4 aspect ratio without losing more of the file size.
Yep I agree with you. It is one of those things where, now I know, I may never use it, but on the other hand, I may use the crop mode more, knowing that I am not throwing away pixels at capture time
Might as well post GR III images in this thread, which gets a reasonable number of views, despite a dearth of posts, comments or likes. In any case, it's more active than the GR thread here.
Three weeks ago, I spent three days in the Netherlands meeting with the team for the design and production of my book project, whose working title is What’s in a Haiku, including a designer, a lithographer and a bookbinder. This image is at Wier in Friesland Province, with a dike built in the 15th century.
The update is said to improve low-light/low-contrast AF performance, but in my (very limited) testing so far I see only minor improvements. However, I've found that real-world AF is actually pretty decent even in the blue hour.
The Image Sync app has also been updated to support the GR III. For now, you can only view and transfer files from the camera. There will eventually be another update with Bluetooth and remote control support.
Mitch Alland wrote:
Although I mostly do B&W, the color rendition of the GR III keeps on attracting
Nice color. Jpeg SOOC or raw+ pp? What film simulation is that?
so bummed. 
