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Voigtlander 110mm f/2.5 Macro APO-Lanthar Review

  
 
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zhangyue wrote:
Hi, steve,

If focus wide open a possible option? Do you have 100mm planar, how these two compare bokeh wise? I know the CA and sharpness difference but they all sharp enough for me. I am think add a ZE planar for Panasonic S1 for the focus direction and wide open focus. But this VC is contender on Z.

I always like Nikon green dot, the best focus aid even with SLR. The sad part is it is not active even with FTZ and their own AIS glass. So sad and shameful.



I don't know if you can focus wide open when you have the lens stopped down. I haven't tried that yet. The green box is so accurate, however, I don't know when I would ever use it. Especially, when I stop down this lens, I am more likely to use the green box. By the way, the green box is supposed to me more accurate with the Z's than DSLRs because it uses CDAF and the DSLRs aren't able to do that when the mirror is down.

I used to have the Zeiss 100 MP, but I don't anymore so I can't compare directly. One very big difference in the bokeh, however, is that the CV 110 has zero bokeh fringing. I don't think you could provoke CA no matter how hard you tried. The Zeiss 100 MP, however, has a lot of bokeh fringing wide open and you can still see it even at f/4 in some situations. I really like the bokeh of the Voigtlander especially for macro shots like the one's I post, but other than the bokeh fringing I really like the bokeh of the Zeiss 100 MP too. The CV 110 f/2.5 on the Z is lovely, I don't think you would regret getting it. Of course the Zeiss 100 MP is a very nice lens too. It is great to have choices.



Aug 23, 2019 at 03:57 PM
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Hi, Steve, thank for the response. I know the green dot in SLR is not as accurate as Z because it is PDAF in nature. However, most cases I use it and value it is for speed and fast control, I donít need down to pixel accuracy. (With experience, this can be done also actually) That is where it shine for me.

I want to be clear about TechART here, do we change aperture on lens or body? Or can be both? With Z implementation on native lens or ZF lens with CPU on FTZ, it will focus at shooting aperture until f5.6. Than it will focus at f5.6 no matter how you stop down the lens. I guess I want to know a little bit detail on behavior. I always prefer shooting WO. Using green dot, focus WO, you will guarantee have a keeper shoot f8 with any lens I tried.

As you said, this Voigtlander seems a no brained if it also happen to have wonderful bokeh. Based on images, I have a feeling it has stronger bokeh than MP100. But I am not sure either as no one compare them before, I thought you might have that lens, hence for asking.

If I am patient, 100MP ZE can be have less than 600 and finally a right focus direction lens and I seems always prefer 100MPís bokeh to 135 APO Zeiss, maybe it is the focal length, maybe indeed MP100 just have more gentle bokeh.



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I don't know if you can focus wide open when you have the lens stopped down. I haven't tried that yet. The green box is so accurate, however, I don't know when I would ever use it. Especially, when I stop down this lens, I am more likely to use the green box. By the way, the green box is supposed to me more accurate with the Z's than DSLRs because it uses CDAF and the DSLRs aren't able to do that when the mirror is down.

I used to have the Zeiss 100 MP, but I don't anymore so
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Aug 23, 2019 at 04:17 PM
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zhangyue wrote:
Hi, Steve, thank for the response. I know the green dot in SLR is not as accurate as Z because it is PDAF in nature. However, most cases I use it and value it is for speed and fast control, I donít need down to pixel accuracy. (With experience, this can be done also actually) That is where it shine for me.

I want to be clear about TechART here, do we change aperture on lens or body? Or can be both? With Z implementation on native lens or ZF lens with CPU on FTZ, it will focus at shooting
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Hi Michael,

Let me try to answer your questions. You asked, "I want to be clear about TechART here, do we change aperture on lens or body?" The answer is it depends on the lens. If the lens has an aperture ring, then you change the aperture on the lens, but you will want to change the aperture on the camera as well so the the EVF has the right brightness. If the lens has no aperture (as several of the lenses for Sony E mount don't) then you change the aperture on the camera. I assume lenses with aperture rings that let you set the aperture to a certain value to use the camera to set aperture still work that way, but I haven't tested that and wouldn't use it as if there is an aperture ring that is what I am going to use.

Most of my lenses have aperture rings, so I can't answer what happens when you stop down with a lens that does not have one. I am not sure if you are focussing wide open. I doubt it works that way, but maybe someone else can comment and I will try to check today and get back to you about that. For lenses with an aperture ring (including the Zeiss Loxia and Voigtlander lenses) I am pretty sure you are focussing at shooting aperture. Maybe there is a way to adjust the camera so that you are shooting wide open. Again maybe somebody else knows how to do that, but I don't. I will try to play around today and see if I can figure out how to do that. In the meantime, there is a thread on the techArt Nikon Z camera to Sony E mount adapter on the Nikon forum. You might want to ask over there.

I wish I could compare to the 100 MP, but I replaced that lens with the 135 f/2 APO awhile back. I could compare the CV 110 to the Zeiss 135 f/2 APO if that would be helpful, but it sounds like you like the 100 MP better than the 135 f/2 APO, so probably not a helpful comparison. In the mean time I will post a couple of macro shots with the 100 MP below. Of course different conditions but they are somewhat similar type of shots to the one's I posted above.

Edit: After looking at the thread in for the adapter in the Nikon forum I should clarify the use of the aperture ring. On manual focus lenses like the Voigtlander and Zeiss Loxia lenses you have to use the aperture ring. The camera and adapter cannot control the aperture. If you don't care about EXIF, then you can just leave the aperture on the camera set to f/2. If you do care about the EXIF, then you can set the aperture on the camera to match the aperture you are using. This works up until f/5.6, greater than f/5.6 you will either have to set the aperture to f/2 or you can set it at the aperture at which you are shooting, but the camera will think the lens will stop down from f/5.6 and you will have to adjust exposure using exposure compensation. For example, if you set the aperture ring to f/8 and set the camera aperture to f/8 you will need to use -1 stop exposure compensation or your shots will be over exposed. Mathieu18 has a nice illustration of this with pictures on the adapter thread in the Nikon Forum. On AF lenses with an adapter ring like Sony GM lenses, the aperture ring does not work with the adapter.




  Canon EOS 5D Mark II    Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 2/100 ZE lens    100mm    f/2.0    1/800s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  Canon EOS 5D Mark II    Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 2/100 ZE lens    100mm    f/2.0    1/160s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  




Aug 24, 2019 at 08:57 AM
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Has anyone had a chance to compare 110/2.5 to Leica R 100/2.8 macro by any chance?



Sep 01, 2019 at 07:08 PM
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This lens is awesome. But I guess I'll sell it. I don't shoot macros that much.....used it 3 or 4 times in the last 4 months

Spinne und Wespe by Michael TŲrner, auf Flickr



Oct 19, 2019 at 01:34 PM
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Yellow buds. A7r11, cross posted.




  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/11.0    1/13s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 28, 2019 at 08:24 PM
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Two more of this small yellow flower.




  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/11.0    1/6s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/8.0    1/125s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  




Oct 29, 2019 at 04:48 PM
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Some more shots with the A7r11 and CV 110




  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/14.0    1/125s    500 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/14.0    1/125s    800 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/14.0    1/125s    1250 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/11.0    1/5s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Nov 17, 2019 at 11:34 PM
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Peace Lilly A7r11.

I wish some others could post in this thread I feel like I am monopolizing the posts




  ILCE-7RM2    110mm    f/14.0    1/2s    200 ISO    -0.3 EV  




Nov 29, 2019 at 09:19 PM
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Dougo wrote:
Peace Lilly A7r11.

I wish some others could post in this thread I feel like I am monopolizing the posts


Never felt this indulged being monopolized😁
Keep them coming...please😊

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Yes, Dougo. We MF people are few so someone using these fine lenses should feel encouraged to post what they deliver, the rare image quality so few ever even see, and never know about them.


Nov 30, 2019 at 04:19 AM
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Thank you Andreas and Phillip, very much appreciated,

Cheers Ray



Nov 30, 2019 at 06:09 AM
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Can someone instruct me how to embed the images from flickr?

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alphanumeric wrote:
Can someone instruct me how to embed the images from flickr?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/albums/72157712046426711


On the Flickr site, find the picture that you want to share. Hit the Share Photo button (Curved arrow pointing to the right at the right bottom corner of the image). Select the BBCode tab. Choose the image size from the drop-down menu - 1024 and 1600 (the 2 smaller Large entries) work well on FM. Then copy the URL in the box just above the image size and paste it into your post here. Works like a charm.




Dec 03, 2019 at 01:42 PM
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Shot on a7r iii with a polarizer filter and no lens hood.


ISO 100 - 𝑓/2.5 - 1/500 sec


ISO 100 - 𝑓/2.5 - 1/1250 sec


ISO 100 - 𝑓/2.5 - 1/5000 sec


ISO 320 - 𝑓/10 - 1/125 sec


ISO 100 - 𝑓/2.5 - 1/2000 sec


ISO 100 - 𝑓/3.2 - 1/2000 sec



Dec 03, 2019 at 02:04 PM
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A7R2+Apo Macro Lanthar 110/2.5




















Dec 23, 2019 at 12:31 PM
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Merry Christmas Everyone!

A7R2+Apo Lanthar 110/2.5







Dec 25, 2019 at 11:30 AM
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Not really a typical use, but sometimes we have to work with the tools we have to hand, especially far from home.

Big-voiced, agile-fingered flamenco performances in a village square in southern Spain


Sony ILCE-6400 Voigtlander MACRO APO-LANTHAR 110mm F2.5 (165.0 mm in 35mm) f/2.5 1/200s ISO 400



Sony ILCE-6400 Voigtlander MACRO APO-LANTHAR 110mm F2.5 (165.0 mm in 35mm) f/2.5 1/400s ISO 1250



Sony ILCE-6400 Voigtlander MACRO APO-LANTHAR 110mm F2.5 (165.0 mm in 35mm) f/2.5 1/400s ISO 800


Edit: That is not CA on the shoes in the last one.



Dec 26, 2019 at 03:31 AM
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A7R2+Apo Lanthar 110/2.5



























Dec 29, 2019 at 10:02 AM
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Shot wide open on an a7R iii.


Original Post on flickr



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