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Archive 2018Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
p.5 #1Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
what a fantastic place .. thanks for all the images
Nov 13, 2018 at 08:40 PM
p.5 #2Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
Okay Im playing. Look Ma sunstars
Nov 13, 2018 at 08:41 PM
p.5 #3Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
Check this out. Reminds me of my youth when I was a small boy looking at B&W photos. Very Old world look here. Damn
Nov 13, 2018 at 08:45 PM
p.5 #4Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
Fred Miranda wrote:
Great samples Guy. Keep them coming!
These are some really nice CV lenses I have to admit. I just love whats coming out of them and im doing nothing in post except the Black and white. I thought about some changes but I dont have the heart to do anything. The CV 35 with the PCX is just beautiful even at F2 and the CV 50 like the 40mm 1.2 are like kissing cousins. Im going to lose my shirt when the E mount comes out but screw it. I dont have the heart to sell it. I'll get a 85mm at some point, most likely for size the ZM
Great samples Guy. Keep them coming!
These are some really nice CV lenses I have to admit. I just love whats coming out of them and im doing nothing in post except the Black and white. I thought about some changes but I dont have the heart to do anything. The CV 35 with the PCX is just beautiful even at F2 and the CV 50 like the 40mm 1.2 are like kissing cousins. Im going to lose my shirt when the E mount comes out but screw it. I dont have the heart to sell it. I'll get a 85mm at some point, most likely for size the ZM
Nov 13, 2018 at 08:49 PM
p.5 #5Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
CV 50 at my guess F2
Nov 13, 2018 at 08:55 PM
p.5 #6Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
This im pretty sure is at F5.6. CV 35
Nov 13, 2018 at 08:57 PM
p.5 #7Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
GMPhotography wrote:
See my issue they are so very close it seems. Thoughts
Truly wonderful sets Guy. Your playground has the flavor of what my grandfather's quarry was like, long time ago though.
Interestingly, the 50 @ f/8 seems to be slightly mis-focused. Just a hair. At f/8 it shouldn't matter but compared to the 35, the 50 just seems off. (I have the 28 and 35 Ultrons in LTM and would not trade 'em. Period. ; - )
Again, thanks for the work! Much appreciated!
See my issue they are so very close it seems. Thoughts
Truly wonderful sets Guy. Your playground has the flavor of what my grandfather's quarry was like, long time ago though.
Interestingly, the 50 @ f/8 seems to be slightly mis-focused. Just a hair. At f/8 it shouldn't matter but compared to the 35, the 50 just seems off. (I have the 28 and 35 Ultrons in LTM and would not trade 'em. Period. ; - )
Again, thanks for the work! Much appreciated!
Nov 13, 2018 at 09:09 PM
p.5 #8Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
Any thoughts good, bad or indifferent. Does it make you want one or more. 
Nov 13, 2018 at 09:10 PM
p.5 #9Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
mapgraphs wrote:
Truly wonderful sets Guy. Your playground has the flavor of what my grandfather's quarry was like, long time ago though.
Interestingly, the 50 @ f/8 seems to be slightly mis-focused. Just a hair. At f/8 it shouldn't matter but compared to the 35, the 50 just seems off. (I have the 28 and 35 Ultrons in LTM and would not trade 'em. Period. ; - )
Again, thanks for the work! Much appreciated!
I think the distance one I focused wide open. I have been focusing both the 35 and 50 at F2 . I’ll look into this more. The CV 50 is my question mark because it is close to the 35. I’m a 35 guy more than a 50. It does render awful nice. Thanks I’ll check that more. It could be me too
GMPhotography wrote
See my issue they are so very close it seems. ThoughtsInterestingly, the 50 @ f/8 seems to be slightly mis-focused. Just a hair. At f/8 it shouldn't matter but compared to the 35, the 50 just seems off. (I have the 28 and 35 Ultrons in LTM and would not trade 'em. Period. ; - )
Again, thanks for the work! Much appreciated!
I think the distance one I focused wide open. I have been focusing both the 35 and 50 at F2 . I’ll look into this more. The CV 50 is my question mark because it is close to the 35. I’m a 35 guy more than a 50. It does render awful nice. Thanks I’ll check that more. It could be me too
Nov 13, 2018 at 09:13 PM
p.5 #10Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
I already have the CV 40 .. seems like the 35 is too close in focal length to have both so I guess it is a matter of preferring 35 vs 40 or is there something more compelling with the 35 IQ for me to replace my 40 ?
My MF line-up is CV 15, Loxia 21, CV 40, CV 65.
My MF line-up is CV 15, Loxia 21, CV 40, CV 65.
Nov 13, 2018 at 09:25 PM
p.5 #11Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
Well you need the PCX front filter and make a holder for it. Than find a adapter that will give you infinity as the front filter pushes the focus . I tried 2 adapters and no go. I asked Fred if he had his old one still and he did so I bought that one from him. Great results but a pain getting it all setup. I do hope a E version comes out.
Nov 13, 2018 at 09:31 PM
p.5 #12Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
In Phillip Reeve's blog post on the ZM 85 f4 (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/carl-zeiss-tele-tessar-zm-t-4-85-a-detailed-review/), he mentions a Hawk Factory helicoid adapter that helps with infinity focusing (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113921-REG/hawks_hkslm2semhv5_leica_m_lens_for.html).
Not the cheapest adapter, but it comes with close focusing ability and is absolutely tiny.
Do you think that would work? I'm trying to build out a CV 35/1.7 in theory to see I could pull it off (I'm also open to buying anyone's CV 35/1.7 with the front filter!) - I loved the rave reviews, and I'm willing to put in a bit more effort to get 35mm over 40mm.
GMPhotography wrote:
Well you need the PCX front filter and make a holder for it. Than find a adapter that will give you infinity as the front filter pushes the focus . I tried 2 adapters and no go. I asked Fred if he had his old one still and he did so I bought that one from him. Great results but a pain getting it all setup. I do hope a E version comes out.
Not the cheapest adapter, but it comes with close focusing ability and is absolutely tiny.
Do you think that would work? I'm trying to build out a CV 35/1.7 in theory to see I could pull it off (I'm also open to buying anyone's CV 35/1.7 with the front filter!) - I loved the rave reviews, and I'm willing to put in a bit more effort to get 35mm over 40mm.
GMPhotography wrote:
Well you need the PCX front filter and make a holder for it. Than find a adapter that will give you infinity as the front filter pushes the focus . I tried 2 adapters and no go. I asked Fred if he had his old one still and he did so I bought that one from him. Great results but a pain getting it all setup. I do hope a E version comes out.
Nov 13, 2018 at 09:58 PM
p.5 #13Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
Wonderful series and what a magical playground. I can only imagine that the Loxia 25mm would provide a CV like micro-contrast and impact vs the GM 24mm. Those CV images are impressive.
Nov 13, 2018 at 09:59 PM
p.5 #14Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
akashyap wrote:
In Phillip Reeve's blog post on the ZM 85 f4 (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/carl-zeiss-tele-tessar-zm-t-4-85-a-detailed-review/), he mentions a Hawk Factory helicoid adapter that helps with infinity focusing (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113921-REG/hawks_hkslm2semhv5_leica_m_lens_for.html).
Not the cheapest adapter, but it comes with close focusing ability and is absolutely tiny.
Do you think that would work? I'm trying to build out a CV 35/1.7 in theory to see I could pull it off (I'm also open to buying anyone's CV 35/1.7 with the front filter!) - I loved the rave reviews, and I'm willing to put in a bit more effort to get 35mm over 40mm.
GMPhotography wrote
Well you need the PCX front filter and make a holder for it. Than find a adapter that will give you infinity as the front filter pushes the focus . I tried 2 adapters and no go. I asked Fred if he had his old one still and he did so I bought that one from him. Great results but a pain getting it all setup. I do hope a E version comes out.CV also makes a quality helicoid adapter.
Nov 13, 2018 at 10:05 PM
p.5 #15Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
Fortunately I like my 40 and not a fan of working with various adapters so that is an easy resolution for me 
Nov 13, 2018 at 10:18 PM
p.5 #16Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
akashyap wrote:
In Phillip Reeve's blog post on the ZM 85 f4 (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/carl-zeiss-tele-tessar-zm-t-4-85-a-detailed-review/), he mentions a Hawk Factory helicoid adapter that helps with infinity focusing (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113921-REG/hawks_hkslm2semhv5_leica_m_lens_for.html).
Not the cheapest adapter, but it comes with close focusing ability and is absolutely tiny.
Do you think that would work? I'm trying to build out a CV 35/1.7 in theory to see I could pull it off (I'm also open to buying anyone's CV 35/1.7 with the front filter!) - I loved the rave reviews, and I'm willing to put in a bit more effort to get 35mm over 40mm.
That won't work with the CV 35/1.7 Ultron. You need to find an out of register adapter (shorter) so it can focus at infinity with the 5m PCX front-lens. I've tried a couple copies of the Hawk and although it allows for infinity tweaking, it's not short enough...
Your best bet is to buy cheap adapters and hope one is not made to specs. I got lucky twice with this brand:
https://www.amazon.com/Concept-Adapter-Compatible-mount-Camera/dp/B06WLR536L
With the Zeiss ZM 35/1.4, it's easier since removing rear shims solves the problem. With the Voigtlander, that's unfortunately not available.
In Phillip Reeve's blog post on the ZM 85 f4 (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/carl-zeiss-tele-tessar-zm-t-4-85-a-detailed-review/), he mentions a Hawk Factory helicoid adapter that helps with infinity focusing (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113921-REG/hawks_hkslm2semhv5_leica_m_lens_for.html).
Not the cheapest adapter, but it comes with close focusing ability and is absolutely tiny.
Do you think that would work? I'm trying to build out a CV 35/1.7 in theory to see I could pull it off (I'm also open to buying anyone's CV 35/1.7 with the front filter!) - I loved the rave reviews, and I'm willing to put in a bit more effort to get 35mm over 40mm.
GMPhotography wrote
Well you need the PCX front filter and make a holder for it. Than find a adapter that will give you infinity as the front filter pushes the focus . I tried 2 adapters and no go. I asked Fred if he had his old one still and he did so I bought that one from him. Great results but a pain getting it all setup. I do hope a E version comes out.That won't work with the CV 35/1.7 Ultron. You need to find an out of register adapter (shorter) so it can focus at infinity with the 5m PCX front-lens. I've tried a couple copies of the Hawk and although it allows for infinity tweaking, it's not short enough...
Your best bet is to buy cheap adapters and hope one is not made to specs. I got lucky twice with this brand:
https://www.amazon.com/Concept-Adapter-Compatible-mount-Camera/dp/B06WLR536L
With the Zeiss ZM 35/1.4, it's easier since removing rear shims solves the problem. With the Voigtlander, that's unfortunately not available.
Nov 13, 2018 at 10:22 PM
p.5 #17Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
akashyap wrote:
In Phillip Reeve's blog post on the ZM 85 f4 (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/carl-zeiss-tele-tessar-zm-t-4-85-a-detailed-review/), he mentions a Hawk Factory helicoid adapter that helps with infinity focusing (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113921-REG/hawks_hkslm2semhv5_leica_m_lens_for.html).
Not the cheapest adapter, but it comes with close focusing ability and is absolutely tiny.
Do you think that would work? I'm trying to build out a CV 35/1.7 in theory to see I could pull it off (I'm also open to buying anyone's CV 35/1.7 with the front filter!) - I loved the rave reviews, and I'm willing to put in a bit more effort to get 35mm over 40mm.
It needs to be thinner the adapter as the CV 35 has 2 shims in it it really needs a third to push the rear element towards the sensor. Now I was able to use the lens until I got the KF adapter from Fred by just unscrewing the rear element a half turn. It worked no problem it’s just lose . Fred and I have both had luck with KF adopters we got on Amazon before. I ordered one this time and not thin enough. Now if we could source a shim it solve the adapter issue but you can get buy just unscrewing the rear element group. Not really a big deal
In Phillip Reeve's blog post on the ZM 85 f4 (https://phillipreeve.net/blog/carl-zeiss-tele-tessar-zm-t-4-85-a-detailed-review/), he mentions a Hawk Factory helicoid adapter that helps with infinity focusing (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113921-REG/hawks_hkslm2semhv5_leica_m_lens_for.html).
Not the cheapest adapter, but it comes with close focusing ability and is absolutely tiny.
Do you think that would work? I'm trying to build out a CV 35/1.7 in theory to see I could pull it off (I'm also open to buying anyone's CV 35/1.7 with the front filter!) - I loved the rave reviews, and I'm willing to put in a bit more effort to get 35mm over 40mm.
GMPhotography wrote
Well you need the PCX front filter and make a holder for it. Than find a adapter that will give you infinity as the front filter pushes the focus . I tried 2 adapters and no go. I asked Fred if he had his old one still and he did so I bought that one from him. Great results but a pain getting it all setup. I do hope a E version comes out.It needs to be thinner the adapter as the CV 35 has 2 shims in it it really needs a third to push the rear element towards the sensor. Now I was able to use the lens until I got the KF adapter from Fred by just unscrewing the rear element a half turn. It worked no problem it’s just lose . Fred and I have both had luck with KF adopters we got on Amazon before. I ordered one this time and not thin enough. Now if we could source a shim it solve the adapter issue but you can get buy just unscrewing the rear element group. Not really a big deal
Nov 13, 2018 at 10:22 PM
p.5 #18Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
We answered at the same time.
Nov 13, 2018 at 10:24 PM
p.5 #19Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
GMPhotography wrote:
We answered at the same time.
It's funny we've tried so many things together.
We answered at the same time.
It's funny we've tried so many things together.
Nov 13, 2018 at 10:26 PM
p.5 #20Big Bronco 7 Lens CV15,CV21,CV35,CV 50,S24,CV50 FE
It’s funny how much the specs are off on these adapter .Remember with my KF adapter I needed to add a third to get infinity. When I got Fred’s I actually had to go down to one. So between adapters , same brand no less it is a 2 shim swing.
Nov 13, 2018 at 10:27 PM