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p.1 #1 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


https://www.dpreview.com/news/8917582542/the-ms-optics-sonnetar-73mm-f1-5-fmc-is-a-lightweight-lens-made-for-portraiture

Samples are bad, but I am ecstatic for this lens. 2nd lens I have pre-ordered in about 5 years. This FL, f1.5 and Sonnar design at 200g! I expect some personality wide open and things to clean up like the zm 50 1.5 and other legacy glass. I loved my Contarex 85 f2. I was hoping CV or someone would release a small (Leica 75 APO or 77 ltd size) lightweight 75-85mm portrait options at f2 or faster for sometime now. Woot woot!



Oct 30, 2018 at 02:50 PM
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p.1 #2 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


From the sample images it looks like a nice lens, soft bokeh behind subject. Sharpness (wo) outside the central zone matters for a portrait lens, because shooting in vertical/portrait orientation, so hope it's 5 elements can coerce enough rays to focus in the same place.


Oct 30, 2018 at 03:15 PM
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p.1 #3 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


JohnJ wrote:
From the sample images it looks like a nice lens, soft bokeh behind subject. Sharpness (wo) outside the central zone matters for a portrait lens, because shooting in vertical/portrait orientation, so hope it's 5 elements can coerce enough rays to focus in the same place.


Funny, I can't gleam much from the samples, but then again, I rarely find the sample images released with lenses that good.



Oct 30, 2018 at 03:23 PM
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p.1 #4 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


The samples are too low rez, but it looks like it's pretty glowy wide open with a noticeable bump in contrast at f/2. I wonder how significant focus shift will be?


Oct 30, 2018 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #5 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


Bellamy likes to crank the contrast on his film scans. It's certainly a look, but maybe not the best one to promote the lenses themselves. It should be interesting.


Oct 30, 2018 at 05:55 PM
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p.1 #6 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


I first saw first review of the lens at:
https://www.cameranonaniwa.co.jp/blogs/2220542091/

Again small size samples... Bellamy said he is shipping it mid Nov when the first batch arrives...

Usually MS Optics lenses are glowy wide open and sharper stopped down similar to older Leica lenses... Here is an older post about it:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1519989/



Oct 30, 2018 at 08:29 PM
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p.1 #7 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


serhan_ wrote:
I first saw first review of the lens at:
https://www.cameranonaniwa.co.jp/blogs/2220542091/



Thanks for the link. It shows the lens has a coma correction setting. I like the Sonnar style rendering in these samples.



Oct 31, 2018 at 09:41 AM
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p.1 #8 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


197 grams. No way to overstate that. Wow. Here is one of the forefathers:


Canon LTM 85/1.5 by unoh7, on Flickr

In 1954 it cost more than a Chevy. I was hoping to get those swirls of the famous CZJ Biotar, however it is a far superior technically lens to the biotar, so swirls are quite mild. Over 650 grams. Good WO it's great by F/2 and as sharp as anything I've seen at 5.6. I bought a 75 Lux to replace it or daily use. The canon is a sweeter lens, compared to the 75 lux, which is bitingly sharp by F/2. I still shoot it fairly often.


Canon Superspeed 85 by unoh7, on Flickr

Gorgeous thing. Sonnar of course.


A100 by unoh7, WO on A7rii


Canon LTM 85/1.5 @1.5 by unoh7, WO on original A7r (no mod)

I have sonnetar, also. Extremely demandng lens. But can be great. No other F/1.1 remotely as light.


Sonne by unoh7, on Flickr


Smudge by unoh7, WO on A7 mod

Stop down a tad on sonnetar:

Here and Now by unoh7, on Flickr

To me, this new 75/1.5 looks great for M9, which must have speedy glass, for work indoors. I would expect it to be much better sharper at f/1.5 than the Sonnetar is at 1.1. Price is very reasonable for a brand new lens. I should sell some glass I don't use much.

I'm not sure it will do this:

Mini in Snow by unoh7, M9 75Lux WO

But that is monster to carry and not easy to find a really good one anymore. 3K at least.



Nov 01, 2018 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #9 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


I got my lens 2 days ago. A few quick shots at f1.5 with A6500+TAP which makes it a nice portrait lens with shorter mfd:

http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405790/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405825/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405843/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405818/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405866/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405867/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405868/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405870/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405871/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405872/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405873/original.jpg


f2.8
http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168405869/original.jpg


Coma was at 3. Also the aperture changes when I changed the focus so I had to pay attention. I will try with A7R II.



Nov 15, 2018 at 09:41 AM
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p.1 #10 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


Looks good, @serhan_ . Thanks for sharing.


Nov 15, 2018 at 10:16 PM
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p.1 #11 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


$1320 on ebay from HK. How much did you pay to pre-order?


Nov 16, 2018 at 12:01 AM
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p.1 #12 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


fsiagian wrote:
$1320 on ebay from HK. How much did you pay to pre-order?


I paid $1,235 + shipping.



Nov 16, 2018 at 01:23 AM
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p.1 #13 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I paid $1,235 + shipping.


Thank you. I am thinking about ordering it.




Nov 16, 2018 at 10:40 AM
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p.1 #14 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


I got mine from Bellamy at similar exchange rate. He shows out of stock now:
https://www.japancamerahunter.com/shop/ms-optics-sonnetar-73mm-1-5/

fsiagian wrote:
Thank you. I am thinking about ordering it.






Nov 16, 2018 at 11:25 AM
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p.1 #15 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


Got mine this morning. Drab light, but am I impressed. Took a little walk and love what I am seeing.





f1.5







f1.5







f2







1.5 with close focus helicoid







1.5




Nov 16, 2018 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #16 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


Definitely has the Sonnar signature!


Nov 16, 2018 at 04:24 PM
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p.1 #17 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


On A7R II with coma at 3:

f1.5
http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168414973/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168414974/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168414975/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168414977/original.jpg


f1.5
http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168415016/original.jpg


f4
http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168415017/original.jpg


f1.5
http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168415020/original.jpg


f8
http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168415018/original.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168415027/original.jpg


f?
http://www.pbase.com/sc_20170/image/168415013/original.jpg





Nov 18, 2018 at 02:38 PM
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p.1 #18 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


I love mine. And it's soooo small.





































Nov 18, 2018 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #19 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


Now if he makes the WA version of this, we would have a complete trinity.


Nov 19, 2018 at 07:38 PM
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p.1 #20 · MS Optics Sonnetar 73mm f1.5


7Artisans has 35mm f2 Sonnar:
https://www.35mmc.com/18/11/2017/7artisans-35mm-f2-pre-pro-sample-photos/

https://leicarumors.com/2018/05/27/7artisans-35mm-f-2-lens-review-comparison-with-the-leica-summicron-m-35mm-f-2-asph.aspx/

hiepphotog wrote:
Now if he makes the WA version of this, we would have a complete trinity.





Nov 19, 2018 at 11:24 PM
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