Grenache wrote: nehemiahphoto wroteI thought/hoping maybe they were holding off to gives us an MF RX1. Would buy a very compact MF or FF RX1.But the MF is what breaks on the RX1…😳
nehemiahphoto wrote: Grenache wrotenehemiahphoto wroteI thought/hoping maybe they were holding off to gives us an MF RX1. Would buy a very compact MF or FF RX1.But the MF is what breaks on the RX1…😳I meant medium format
Yep, whoever bring a modern SWC, it will become an instant classic and sell a lot.
nehemiahphoto wrote: Grenache wrotenehemiahphoto wroteI thought/hoping maybe they were holding off to gives us an MF RX1. Would buy a very compact MF or FF RX1.But the MF is what breaks on the RX1…😳I meant medium format
zhangyue wrote:
Yep, whoever bring a modern SWC, it will become an instant classic and sell a lot.
nehemiahphoto wroteGrenache wrotenehemiahphoto wroteI thought/hoping maybe they were holding off to gives us an MF RX1. Would buy a very compact MF or FF RX1.But the MF is what breaks on the RX1…😳I meant medium format
Totally agree and am a bit surprised we haven’t see a fixed lens MF/high IQ and portability camera yet. I am guessing the makers feel it would cannibalizes their own or don’t see the demand (or want to take the risk).
nehemiahphoto wrote: zhangyue wroteYep, whoever bring a modern SWC, it will become an instant classic and sell a lot.
nehemiahphoto wroteGrenache wrotenehemiahphoto wroteI thought/hoping maybe they were holding off to gives us an MF RX1. Would buy a very compact MF or FF RX1.But the MF is what breaks on the RX1…😳I meant medium format Totally agree and am a bit surprised we haven’t see a fixed lens MF/high IQ and portability camera yet. I am guessing the makers feel it would cannibalizes their own or don’t see the demand (or want to take the risk).
I feel (but I might be wrong) that MF today is a real niche, I mean much more than during the film era. a SWC was a must have because there was no alternative if you wanted the best IQ with the lightest gear. Nowadays, with cameras like the sony RIV and a 12 24mm on it... I'm not sure a digital SWC would fine its place...
hesb wrote: nehemiahphoto wrotezhangyue wroteYep, whoever bring a modern SWC, it will become an instant classic and sell a lot.
nehemiahphoto wroteGrenache wrotenehemiahphoto wroteI thought/hoping maybe they were holding off to gives us an MF RX1. Would buy a very compact MF or FF RX1.But the MF is what breaks on the RX1…😳I meant medium format Totally agree and am a bit surprised we haven’t see a fixed lens MF/high IQ and portability camera yet. I am guessing the makers feel it would cannibalizes their own or don’t see the demand (or want to take the risk).I feel (but I might be wrong) that MF today is a real niche, I mean much more than during the film era. a SWC was a must have because there was no alternative if you wanted the best IQ with the lightest gear. Nowadays, with cameras like the sony RIV and a 12 24mm on it... I'm not sure a digital SWC would fine its place...
Yeah, not sure either. I know I would be highly interested in one, and so would a lot of other enthusiasm. But I’m not sure if that’s enough of a market. But I tend to think I niche products that have terrific IQ, usability and small size do well. They could use the GFX sensor size, or go a little bit bigger too. Sony makes all the sensors…Nobody will really know until we see decent version hit market at an attractive price point. If I ever that happens.
genji wrote:
Hasselblad Super Wide 6 x 6 camera with a fixed Biogon 38mm f/4.5 lens. Framing was done via an accessory viewfinder and the lens was scale focused.
Some really nice SWC images here. ( First time I've heard of "SWC") What is the Hasselblad 903 SWC focal length equivalence for the BIOGON T✻ 38mm f/4.5 lens used for these images?
zhangyue wrote:
I mentioned SWC not for the focal length (which is about 21mm diagonal). It is really for the uniqueness for the size and performance.
RX1x is already an impressive machine as is. Having a bigger sensor maybe 4X3 or 1X1 would be an instant classic IMHO we can all dream.
I know there’s disagreement about this but I’ve never believed it makes sense to calculate focal length equivalents based on the diagonal field of view, particularly when the aspect ratios are so different (in this case 1:1 versus 3:2). I personally prefer to compare the horizontal fields of view, which would make the Biogon’s 38mm lens equivalent to about a 17mm.
genji wrote: zhangyue wroteI mentioned SWC not for the focal length (which is about 21mm diagonal). It is really for the uniqueness for the size and performance.
RX1x is already an impressive machine as is. Having a bigger sensor maybe 4X3 or 1X1 would be an instant classic IMHO we can all dream.I know there’s disagreement about this but I’ve never believed it makes sense to calculate focal length equivalents based on the diagonal field of view, particularly when the aspect ratios are so different (in this case 1:1 versus 3:2). I personally prefer to compare the horizontal fields of view, which would make the Biogon’s 38mm lens equivalent to about a 17mm.
No disagreement Just want put a number there in case anyone wondering. I researched that camera before, what a beauty.
If I may suggest, future RX1 should remove lots of button and function in menu, make it a clean and simple shooting machine.
I heard back from a bud at Zeiss. He said there was zero chance of getting one even remotely close to the B&H open box/used prices.Thanks for checking.
De nada.
I wonder if they will just give up and have a fire sale at some point. The number of reviews at B&H has held at 6 for as long as I can remember.
Clearly they aren't selling at $4K because those have been available for a while now too...
I heard back from a bud at Zeiss. He said there was zero chance of getting one even remotely close to the B&H open box/used prices.Thanks for checking.De nada.
I wonder if they will just give up and have a fire sale at some point. The number of reviews at B&H has held at 6 for as long as I can remember.
Clearly they aren't selling at $4K because those have been available for a while now too...
When I looked at some of the sample pictures, the transition area doesn't look as smooth as the Sonnar on the RX1Rii. It has the look of the Sigma 35i. It's nice, but not magical. I really don't want to sacrifice any image quality.
..are pretty reasonable for some initial impressions. It's no Sonnar by the look of these, it's very serviceable with no blatant faults, more a traditional well-behaved bold contrasty Zeiss lens. Colour is muted and deeper, not in the CV league, a little lacking in tonal gradation / separation. Bokeh is a little overdone so yes, more the Sigma look, but cooler.
It's an 8/5 with two double-sided asph, similar to RX1. A comparison: Cosina are shy at using high element counts but their APO 35/2 is an 11/9, and it uses what they had available in early 2021. Leica's new 35/2 APO in M is similarly loaded with their best, it's a 10/5.
And ZX1 is now ageing as an optical design too, it was announced Sept 2018, and the design probably was formulated (incl glass selection) up to a year earlier. Strange to say, but that's a lot of water under the bridge. People just listed their sharpest lenses and many of them appeared within that period. Sony's GM 135mm seems to have been out for ages, but was released April 2019.