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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.32 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
bump.
Did you mean "dump"?
bump.
Did you mean "dump"?
Sep 25, 2020 at 08:43 PM
p.32 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
DaveFP wrote:
Did you mean "dump"?
"chump" too
Fred Miranda wrote
bump. "chump" too
Sep 25, 2020 at 10:02 PM
p.32 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
DavidBM wrote:
unless it's surprisingly cheap
Zeiss and cheap in the same sentence
unless it's surprisingly cheap
Zeiss and cheap in the same sentence
Sep 26, 2020 at 05:09 AM
p.32 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
You all made me think this was coming out now 
Sep 26, 2020 at 05:40 AM
p.32 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Vaporware.
Zeiss is out of consumer photography. No money in a clearly dying industry.
Zeiss is out of consumer photography. No money in a clearly dying industry.
Sep 26, 2020 at 06:16 AM
p.32 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Just curious, has there ever been so much talk on these forums about a product that is looking less and less likely to end up hitting the market ?
?Sep 26, 2020 at 06:19 AM
p.32 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Chris_88 wrote:
Just curious, has there ever been so much talk on these forums about a product that is looking less and less likely to end up hitting the market?
There isnt any talk about this camera. It's been reduced to a joke as Zeiss is now a laughing stock.
Just curious, has there ever been so much talk on these forums about a product that is looking less and less likely to end up hitting the market
?There isnt any talk about this camera. It's been reduced to a joke as Zeiss is now a laughing stock.
Sep 26, 2020 at 06:34 AM
p.32 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
?There isnt any talk about this camera. It's been reduced to a joke as Zeiss is now a laughing stock.
You sure have a point. I was thinking more about this entire thread, as opposed to the present, though.
As for Zeiss itself, I hope you are wrong and their lens divison shows some sign of life. However, given the complete lack of any new announcements since the Loxia 25 and the Batis 40, I have wondered the same thing as you: Have they called it quits and pulled the plug on non-cine lens development? It would make for a sad final chapter in a very long volume with plenty of highlights. The Loxia 21, for instance, remains my favorite e-mount lens.
Chris_88 wrote
Just curious, has there ever been so much talk on these forums about a product that is looking less and less likely to end up hitting the market?You sure have a point. I was thinking more about this entire thread, as opposed to the present, though.
As for Zeiss itself, I hope you are wrong and their lens divison shows some sign of life. However, given the complete lack of any new announcements since the Loxia 25 and the Batis 40, I have wondered the same thing as you: Have they called it quits and pulled the plug on non-cine lens development? It would make for a sad final chapter in a very long volume with plenty of highlights. The Loxia 21, for instance, remains my favorite e-mount lens.
Sep 26, 2020 at 06:45 AM
p.32 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
This past Tuesday, there was an advertisement on Zeiss' German global vision Instagram account with a woman holding the ZX1 in her hands (the add was for the pair of glasses she wore though).
A commentator remarked that the glasses are nice but what about the camera? Zeiss answered that select individuals are currently field testing the unit. Sadly I cannot find that particular add anymore, but it was recent und from official Zeiss sources.
They have me curious in general, since their lens output has really dropped to zero...
A commentator remarked that the glasses are nice but what about the camera? Zeiss answered that select individuals are currently field testing the unit. Sadly I cannot find that particular add anymore, but it was recent und from official Zeiss sources.
They have me curious in general, since their lens output has really dropped to zero...
Sep 26, 2020 at 06:57 AM
p.32 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Tora_2097 wrote:
This past Tuesday, there was an advertisement on Zeiss' German global vision Instagram account with a woman holding the ZX1 in her hands (the add was for the pair of glasses she wore though).
A commentator remarked that the glasses are nice but what about the camera? Zeiss answered that select individuals are currently field testing the unit. Sadly I cannot find that particular add anymore, but it was recent und from official Zeiss sources.
They have me curious in general, since their lens output has really dropped to zero...
Field testing = looking for a suitable field where all the unsold ZX1 cameras can be buried.
This past Tuesday, there was an advertisement on Zeiss' German global vision Instagram account with a woman holding the ZX1 in her hands (the add was for the pair of glasses she wore though).
A commentator remarked that the glasses are nice but what about the camera? Zeiss answered that select individuals are currently field testing the unit. Sadly I cannot find that particular add anymore, but it was recent und from official Zeiss sources.
They have me curious in general, since their lens output has really dropped to zero...
Field testing = looking for a suitable field where all the unsold ZX1 cameras can be buried.
Sep 26, 2020 at 07:09 AM
p.32 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Chris_88 wrote:
?There isnt any talk about this camera. It's been reduced to a joke as Zeiss is now a laughing stock.You sure have a point. I was thinking more about this entire thread, as opposed to the present, though.
As for Zeiss itself, I hope you are wrong and their lens divison shows some sign of life. However, given the complete lack of any new announcements since the Loxia 25 and the Batis 40, I have wondered the same thing as you: Have they called it quits and pulled the plug on non-cine lens development? It would make for a sad final chapter in a very long volume with plenty of highlights. The Loxia 21, for instance, remains my favorite...Show more →
I hope I am wrong too, but there is simply no activity from Zeiss these days. It makes perfect sense from a corporate sense as the camera industry is dying. Zeiss is not a Japanese company that is happy to throw money down the toilet.
rattymouse wrote
Chris_88 wrote
Just curious, has there ever been so much talk on these forums about a product that is looking less and less likely to end up hitting the market?As for Zeiss itself, I hope you are wrong and their lens divison shows some sign of life. However, given the complete lack of any new announcements since the Loxia 25 and the Batis 40, I have wondered the same thing as you: Have they called it quits and pulled the plug on non-cine lens development? It would make for a sad final chapter in a very long volume with plenty of highlights. The Loxia 21, for instance, remains my favorite...Show more →
I hope I am wrong too, but there is simply no activity from Zeiss these days. It makes perfect sense from a corporate sense as the camera industry is dying. Zeiss is not a Japanese company that is happy to throw money down the toilet.
Sep 26, 2020 at 07:24 AM
p.32 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
genji wrote:
A commentator remarked that the glasses are nice but what about the camera? Zeiss answered that select individuals are currently field testing the unit. Sadly I cannot find that particular add anymore, but it was recent und from official Zeiss sources.
They have me curious in general, since their lens output has really dropped to zero...Field testing = looking for a suitable field where all the unsold ZX1 cameras can be buried.
Ouch.
Tora_2097 wrote
This past Tuesday, there was an advertisement on Zeiss' German global vision Instagram account with a woman holding the ZX1 in her hands (the add was for the pair of glasses she wore though).A commentator remarked that the glasses are nice but what about the camera? Zeiss answered that select individuals are currently field testing the unit. Sadly I cannot find that particular add anymore, but it was recent und from official Zeiss sources.
They have me curious in general, since their lens output has really dropped to zero...
Ouch.
Sep 26, 2020 at 08:17 AM
p.32 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
Vaporware.
Zeiss is out of consumer photography. No money in a clearly dying industry.
Long-time-no-see suggests you might be right.
A shame.
Vaporware.
Zeiss is out of consumer photography. No money in a clearly dying industry.
Long-time-no-see suggests you might be right.
A shame.
Sep 26, 2020 at 08:21 AM
p.32 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
If their lens output has dropped to 0, is it possible that Tamron pulled the plug on their agreement?
Sep 26, 2020 at 08:47 AM
p.32 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The Konost Leica mount rangefinder will hit the market before the Zeiss.
Sep 26, 2020 at 08:51 AM
p.32 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Zeiss recognizes that their specialty; expensive manual focus lenses, is the dead segment of a rapidly contracting market.
They would probably need to be able to charge double their current prices to make it worth the investment in developing new (traditional) Zeiss lenses.
Cosina can do it because they can manufacture the lens and retain all profits.
They would probably need to be able to charge double their current prices to make it worth the investment in developing new (traditional) Zeiss lenses.
Cosina can do it because they can manufacture the lens and retain all profits.
Sep 26, 2020 at 08:59 AM
p.32 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
It's a shame that this will likely never materialize. With the Rx1 line likely dying out with the a7c announcement, there is a wide open spot for a fixed full-frame 35mm camera. The only other option is the Leica Q line but that is 28mm. I know there are a lot of people like myself who wanted this to happen. Looks like I'll be holding onto my Rx1rii for the foreseeable future. Here's to hoping another company decides to fill that gap.
Sep 26, 2020 at 09:08 AM
p.32 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Jmonat7 wrote:
It's a shame that this will likely never materialize. With the Rx1 line likely dying out with the a7c announcement, there is a wide open spot for a fixed full-frame 35mm camera. The only other option is the Leica Q line but that is 28mm. I know there are a lot of people like myself who wanted this to happen. Looks like I'll be holding onto my Rx1rii for the foreseeable future. Here's to hoping another company decides to fill that gap.
There is certainly a "spot" in the desires of well-healed enthusiasts.
Would that spot translate into a level of profit that would make such a camera worthwhile?
In 2012 the answer was yes.
Not sure that remains true in 2020.
It's a shame that this will likely never materialize. With the Rx1 line likely dying out with the a7c announcement, there is a wide open spot for a fixed full-frame 35mm camera. The only other option is the Leica Q line but that is 28mm. I know there are a lot of people like myself who wanted this to happen. Looks like I'll be holding onto my Rx1rii for the foreseeable future. Here's to hoping another company decides to fill that gap.
There is certainly a "spot" in the desires of well-healed enthusiasts.
Would that spot translate into a level of profit that would make such a camera worthwhile?
In 2012 the answer was yes.
Not sure that remains true in 2020.
Sep 26, 2020 at 09:17 AM
p.32 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
DaveFP wrote:
There is certainly a "spot" in the desires of well-healed enthusiasts.
Would that spot translate into a level of profit that would make such a camera worthwhile?
In 2012 the answer was yes.
Not sure that remains true in 2020.
The majority of people in photography are enthusiasts nowadays. Leica's best selling camera is the Q series, Fuji's is the x100 series. There is a spot and a market. Someone needs to take advantage of it.
There is certainly a "spot" in the desires of well-healed enthusiasts.
Would that spot translate into a level of profit that would make such a camera worthwhile?
In 2012 the answer was yes.
Not sure that remains true in 2020.
The majority of people in photography are enthusiasts nowadays. Leica's best selling camera is the Q series, Fuji's is the x100 series. There is a spot and a market. Someone needs to take advantage of it.
Sep 26, 2020 at 09:23 AM
p.32 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Jmonat7 wrote:
Would that spot translate into a level of profit that would make such a camera worthwhile?
In 2012 the answer was yes.
Not sure that remains true in 2020.The majority of people in photography are enthusiasts nowadays. Leica's best selling camera is the Q series, Fuji's is the x100 series. There is a spot and a market. Someone needs to take advantage of it.
The majority of people in photography have always been enthusiasts; nothing new there.
Manufacturers like Sony and Zeiss are not neophytes and they are not in it for the "love of the game".
If they are not making it there is probably a very good reason.
In any case Sony still sells the RX1 II.
Is there a market for a III?
The fact that on hasn't appeared would suggest Sony is uninterested in a new version.
Perhaps a new 35 on the "C" will be the "III".
DaveFP wrote
There is certainly a "spot" in the desires of well-healed enthusiasts.Would that spot translate into a level of profit that would make such a camera worthwhile?
In 2012 the answer was yes.
Not sure that remains true in 2020.
The majority of people in photography have always been enthusiasts; nothing new there.
Manufacturers like Sony and Zeiss are not neophytes and they are not in it for the "love of the game".
If they are not making it there is probably a very good reason.
In any case Sony still sells the RX1 II.
Is there a market for a III?
The fact that on hasn't appeared would suggest Sony is uninterested in a new version.
Perhaps a new 35 on the "C" will be the "III".
Sep 26, 2020 at 09:33 AM