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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.30 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Definately buying one.
Got an (affiliate) link?
Got an (affiliate) link?
Jul 22, 2020 at 04:59 AM
p.30 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Bob_S wrote:
Definately buying one.
Got an (affiliate) link?
Not on FredMiranda.com it seems. You might find an affiliate link on the MAD Magazine website.
https://www.madmagazine.com/
Definately buying one.
Got an (affiliate) link?
Not on FredMiranda.com it seems. You might find an affiliate link on the MAD Magazine website.
https://www.madmagazine.com/
Jul 22, 2020 at 08:27 AM
p.30 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
genji wrote:
Bob_S wrote
Definately buying one.Got an (affiliate) link?
https://www.madmagazine.com/
Does mad magazine still exist‽
On second thought, I'm waiting for the 12K version (that's a DPR joke).
Jul 22, 2020 at 08:55 AM
p.30 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Zeiss still believes in it:
https://zx1.zeiss.com
https://zx1.zeiss.com
Jul 22, 2020 at 11:21 AM
p.30 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Still believes? Or just forgot to remove the domain? Hmmmmm
rx1r iii vs zx1 is kinda turning into the battle of the vaporware.
rx1r iii vs zx1 is kinda turning into the battle of the vaporware.
Jul 22, 2020 at 11:53 AM
p.30 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Belief - it's usually a word we use for religious sentiment. They still have faith!
That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.
That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.
Jul 22, 2020 at 05:20 PM
p.30 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
philip_pj wrote:
Belief - it's usually a word we use for religious sentiment. They still have faith!
That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.
That is funny, seamless from nothing to more nothing lol
Belief - it's usually a word we use for religious sentiment. They still have faith!
That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.
That is funny, seamless from nothing to more nothing lol
Jul 22, 2020 at 05:26 PM
p.30 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
Zeiss still believes in it:
https://zx1.zeiss.com
They are just waiting to get 10 people on the "First to know list"
Zeiss still believes in it:
https://zx1.zeiss.com
They are just waiting to get 10 people on the "First to know list"
Jul 22, 2020 at 06:28 PM
p.30 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I personally like the idea, but like anything new, the first few implementations fall short. But someone needs to step out of the box and drive the industry forward. If not, all we have is the next generation of mirrorless from Nikon and Canon and Sony that basically adds a bit more fps IR insect eye tracking...but nothing that breaks out of the pack.
Jul 22, 2020 at 07:09 PM
p.30 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I personally like the steady increase in the level of scorn that this vaporware product is attracting.
Jul 22, 2020 at 07:14 PM
p.30 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
philip_pj wrote:
Belief - it's usually a word we use for religious sentiment. They still have faith!
That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.
Philip, do you think it's feasible that they have pulled the plug on/decided to phase out the development of FF lenses?
The initial limited support for mirrorless could still be explained by a lack of resources, as the good folks in Oberkochen were busy putting the finishing touches on the Milvus and Otus lines. However, it's been 2.5 years since the Loxia 25 arrived, 1.5 years since the Batis 40 and more than a year since the Otus 100. Meanwhile, they have been running quite a few discount campaigns here in Japan, suggesting to me that the Batis and Loxia lenses aren't selling as well as they would hope (at least at their suggested retail prices).
Unless SARS is right and they are really taking their time in preparing those mirrorless Oti (will they arrive before or after the ZX1?), the complete absence of any recent announcement seems curious to me.
Belief - it's usually a word we use for religious sentiment. They still have faith!
That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.
Philip, do you think it's feasible that they have pulled the plug on/decided to phase out the development of FF lenses?
The initial limited support for mirrorless could still be explained by a lack of resources, as the good folks in Oberkochen were busy putting the finishing touches on the Milvus and Otus lines. However, it's been 2.5 years since the Loxia 25 arrived, 1.5 years since the Batis 40 and more than a year since the Otus 100. Meanwhile, they have been running quite a few discount campaigns here in Japan, suggesting to me that the Batis and Loxia lenses aren't selling as well as they would hope (at least at their suggested retail prices).
Unless SARS is right and they are really taking their time in preparing those mirrorless Oti (will they arrive before or after the ZX1?), the complete absence of any recent announcement seems curious to me.
Jul 22, 2020 at 08:22 PM
p.30 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I hope something like this happens. My biggest gripe with cameras is the faf required to share an image when out and about. A camera that easily transfers a copy of an image to my phone that I can quickly edit/crop and then share would have myoney instantly. That's why phone cameras are so popular now, they make this easy, they just lack the quality a camera can bring to the table..
Jul 26, 2020 at 05:34 AM
p.30 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Chris_88 wrote:
That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.Philip, do you think it's feasible that they have pulled the plug on/decided to phase out the development of FF lenses?
The initial limited support for mirrorless could still be explained by a lack of resources, as the good folks in Oberkochen were busy putting the finishing touches on the Milvus and Otus lines. However, it's been 2.5 years since the Loxia 25 arrived, 1.5 years since the Batis 40 and more than a year since the Otus 100. Meanwhile, they have been running quite a few discount campaigns here in Japan, suggesting to me that the Batis and Loxia...Show more →
The Batis 40 arrived in September 2018, which is almost two years ago. I wonder if Zeiss has quietly abandoned the Batis line, like they did with the Touit line of APS-C lenses. Still the Touit lenses are available though.
philip_pj wrote
Belief - it's usually a word we use for religious sentiment. They still have faith!That Zeiss page starts off with the heading: 'stay in your flow'. It can happen if you p..s when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. A 'seamless experience' indeed, from nothing to more nothing.
Back in April SAR was talking up a new line of mirrorless Otuses, probably more vaporware. Interesting that the decline and near disappearance of Zeiss 35mm stills lenses coincided with Cosina unleashed.
The initial limited support for mirrorless could still be explained by a lack of resources, as the good folks in Oberkochen were busy putting the finishing touches on the Milvus and Otus lines. However, it's been 2.5 years since the Loxia 25 arrived, 1.5 years since the Batis 40 and more than a year since the Otus 100. Meanwhile, they have been running quite a few discount campaigns here in Japan, suggesting to me that the Batis and Loxia...Show more →
The Batis 40 arrived in September 2018, which is almost two years ago. I wonder if Zeiss has quietly abandoned the Batis line, like they did with the Touit line of APS-C lenses. Still the Touit lenses are available though.
Jul 26, 2020 at 05:53 AM
p.30 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
wastedimages wrote:
I hope something like this happens. My biggest gripe with cameras is the faf required to share an image when out and about. A camera that easily transfers a copy of an image to my phone that I can quickly edit/crop and then share would have myoney instantly. That's why phone cameras are so popular now, they make this easy, they just lack the quality a camera can bring to the table..
I tap the A9 to my phone (pixel) and it automatically opens the app and transfers the image.
I then share it to friends by text to whatever, but usually upload it to a Google photos album and send the link to whoever I want to see that album.
So yeah, it's a tap on the side of the camera with a phone. Not sure how it works for phones other than the pixel, I'm assuming same but it may be different.
Still more processes than to shoot with the phone though. I wish sometimes that the A9 would connect directly to the web (perhaps using my phones wifi and data?) so I could skip the step and upload directly to the site.
Jul 26, 2020 at 05:53 AM
p.30 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
bjornthun wrote:
The Batis 40 arrived in September 2018, which is almost two years ago. I wonder if Zeiss has quietly abandoned the Batis line, like they did with the Touit line of APS-C lenses. Still the Touit lenses are available though.
The release dates I mentioned were the Japanese ones, which lag a bit behind the ones in the US and Europe. I might be wrong, but I wonder about both (Loxia and Batis) lines: It's curious that Zeiss has refused to release any state of the art 35mm and 50mm primes for e-mount, not to mention other classic FL's such as 15, 28, 60 or 100. I know that some people like to blame everything on Sony, but if Sony was so protective of the 30 and 50mm FL's, why was Cosina able to release not just one, but multiple MF primes, including one of the highest performing lenses in the entire system? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Of course, there is a chance that Cosina might have read the market more accurately than Zeiss, and plenty of users simply aren't willing to pay the blue batch tax, if they can get similar or better performance, faster f stops and similarly compact designs from Cosina for less money.
The Batis 40 arrived in September 2018, which is almost two years ago. I wonder if Zeiss has quietly abandoned the Batis line, like they did with the Touit line of APS-C lenses. Still the Touit lenses are available though.
The release dates I mentioned were the Japanese ones, which lag a bit behind the ones in the US and Europe. I might be wrong, but I wonder about both (Loxia and Batis) lines: It's curious that Zeiss has refused to release any state of the art 35mm and 50mm primes for e-mount, not to mention other classic FL's such as 15, 28, 60 or 100. I know that some people like to blame everything on Sony, but if Sony was so protective of the 30 and 50mm FL's, why was Cosina able to release not just one, but multiple MF primes, including one of the highest performing lenses in the entire system? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Of course, there is a chance that Cosina might have read the market more accurately than Zeiss, and plenty of users simply aren't willing to pay the blue batch tax, if they can get similar or better performance, faster f stops and similarly compact designs from Cosina for less money.
Jul 26, 2020 at 06:20 AM
p.30 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Too many shakeups in the photography industry before and during the pandemic to know what is going on with Zeiss ZX1, and /or any new Zeiss mirrorless lenses. According to many forum photographers, ZX1 was DOA. These sentiments even before the pandemic probably killed any chance Zeiss or any other camera manufacturer will risk stepping out of the box any time soon.
Jul 26, 2020 at 06:28 AM
p.30 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Bob_S wrote:
I tap the A9 to my phone (pixel) and it automatically opens the app and transfers the image.
I then share it to friends by text to whatever, but usually upload it to a Google photos album and send the link to whoever I want to see that album.
So yeah, it's a tap on the side of the camera with a phone. Not sure how it works for phones other than the pixel, I'm assuming same but it may be different.
Still more processes than to shoot with the phone though. I wish sometimes that the A9 would connect directly to the...Show more →
iPhone can bump too ! Ha Ha. Sadly, very sadly for me, Sony mobile after all these years, only allows Jpeg mobile transfer.
wastedimages wrote
I hope something like this happens. My biggest gripe with cameras is the faf required to share an image when out and about. A camera that easily transfers a copy of an image to my phone that I can quickly edit/crop and then share would have myoney instantly. That's why phone cameras are so popular now, they make this easy, they just lack the quality a camera can bring to the table..I then share it to friends by text to whatever, but usually upload it to a Google photos album and send the link to whoever I want to see that album.
So yeah, it's a tap on the side of the camera with a phone. Not sure how it works for phones other than the pixel, I'm assuming same but it may be different.
Still more processes than to shoot with the phone though. I wish sometimes that the A9 would connect directly to the...Show more →
iPhone can bump too ! Ha Ha. Sadly, very sadly for me, Sony mobile after all these years, only allows Jpeg mobile transfer.
Jul 26, 2020 at 06:31 AM
p.30 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Chris_88 wrote:
The release dates I mentioned were the Japanese ones, which lag a bit behind the ones in the US and Europe. I might be wrong, but I wonder about both (Loxia and Batis) lines: It's curious that Zeiss has refused to release any state of the art 35mm and 50mm primes for e-mount, not to mention other classic FL's such as 15, 28, 60 or 100. I know that some people like to blame everything on Sony, but if Sony was so protective of the 30 and 50mm FL's, why was Cosina able to release not just one, but multiple...Show more →
Dpreview has a list of launch dates here, https://www.dpreview.com/products/zeiss/lenses?subcategoryId=lenses&page=1
I too think that Cosina may have read the market more accurately than Zeiss. The Voigtländers have better ergonomics. In the AF lens department Sigma Art and Sony G, GM and even some Sony Zeiss lenses are better value.
bjornthun wrote
The Batis 40 arrived in September 2018, which is almost two years ago. I wonder if Zeiss has quietly abandoned the Batis line, like they did with the Touit line of APS-C lenses. Still the Touit lenses are available though.Dpreview has a list of launch dates here, https://www.dpreview.com/products/zeiss/lenses?subcategoryId=lenses&page=1
I too think that Cosina may have read the market more accurately than Zeiss. The Voigtländers have better ergonomics. In the AF lens department Sigma Art and Sony G, GM and even some Sony Zeiss lenses are better value.
Jul 26, 2020 at 06:44 AM
p.30 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The ZX1 was either never going to happen or was going to fail, good on Zeiss for pulling the pin on this early saving their bottom line and brand from a disaster.
Jul 26, 2020 at 07:04 AM