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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.29 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
genji wrote:
Surely no-one still believes that the ZX1 will actually ever be released.
There are still these vague signs of life--I think I read recently that a lens profile for the ZX1 was added to a software update.
I am hoping Sony's rumored new camera is some RX1r3/new compact FF wide fixed lens type.
In 13 years, we'll be reading about how there's an auction for the unreleased ZX1 prototype for sale on eBay
Surely no-one still believes that the ZX1 will actually ever be released.
There are still these vague signs of life--I think I read recently that a lens profile for the ZX1 was added to a software update.
I am hoping Sony's rumored new camera is some RX1r3/new compact FF wide fixed lens type.
In 13 years, we'll be reading about how there's an auction for the unreleased ZX1 prototype for sale on eBay
Jun 05, 2020 at 11:26 AM
p.29 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
And the person auctioning it off would PAY the highest bidder to take it away from him/her.
This contraption is so ugly.
nehemiahphoto wrote:
genji wrote
Surely no-one still believes that the ZX1 will actually ever be released.Jun 05, 2020 at 11:58 AM
p.29 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
considering the Zeiss ZM was made by Cosina anyway, I say just skip the blue badge tax Sony should've worked with them or with Voigtlander to make the spiritual successor to the R-D1 (another Cosina)
Jun 05, 2020 at 01:42 PM
p.29 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I personally think the RX1R line looks better as a compact full frame. I only wish the RX1Rii has an integrated EVF not a popup. The improvements of the ZX1 over the RX1Rii may be insignificant if you prefer to pop out your SD card and postprocess on your computer.
Jun 05, 2020 at 02:23 PM
p.29 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
gordec wrote:
I personally think the RX1R line looks better as a compact full frame. I only wish the RX1Rii has an integrated EVF not a popup. The improvements of the ZX1 over the RX1Rii may be insignificant if you prefer to pop out your SD card and postprocess on your computer.
And even quite a detriment.
I personally think the RX1R line looks better as a compact full frame. I only wish the RX1Rii has an integrated EVF not a popup. The improvements of the ZX1 over the RX1Rii may be insignificant if you prefer to pop out your SD card and postprocess on your computer.
And even quite a detriment.
Jun 05, 2020 at 04:22 PM
p.29 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
knshshnk wrote:
considering the Zeiss ZM was made by Cosina anyway, I say just skip the blue badge tax Sony should've worked with them or with Voigtlander to make the spiritual successor to the R-D1 (another Cosina)
Epson-Cosina, actually. With Epson probably having quite the weight in the development of that product.
And a successor would have to be full frame, which probably needs Leica technology (i.e. their patented variable size microlenses) so wide angle lenses arent a problem.
considering the Zeiss ZM was made by Cosina anyway, I say just skip the blue badge tax Sony should've worked with them or with Voigtlander to make the spiritual successor to the R-D1 (another Cosina)
Epson-Cosina, actually. With Epson probably having quite the weight in the development of that product.
And a successor would have to be full frame, which probably needs Leica technology (i.e. their patented variable size microlenses) so wide angle lenses arent a problem.
Jun 07, 2020 at 05:53 AM
p.29 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Sauseschritt wrote:
Epson-Cosina, actually. With Epson probably having quite the weight in the development of that product.
And a successor would have to be full frame, which probably needs Leica technology (i.e. their patented variable size microlenses) so wide angle lenses arent a problem.
I would prefer it to be an e-mount camera with EVF, no rangefinder unless they create an hybrid solution like fuji
knshshnk wrote
considering the Zeiss ZM was made by Cosina anyway, I say just skip the blue badge tax Sony should've worked with them or with Voigtlander to make the spiritual successor to the R-D1 (another Cosina)And a successor would have to be full frame, which probably needs Leica technology (i.e. their patented variable size microlenses) so wide angle lenses arent a problem.
I would prefer it to be an e-mount camera with EVF, no rangefinder unless they create an hybrid solution like fuji
Jun 07, 2020 at 09:21 AM
p.29 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
The Zeiss ZX1 was launched 20 months ago and yet it’s not here.
It's been so long that this thread got archived!!!
Vaporware.
The Zeiss ZX1 was launched 20 months ago and yet it’s not here.
It's been so long that this thread got archived!!!
Vaporware.
Jun 07, 2020 at 02:44 PM
p.29 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Wide angle lenses aren't an issue with Sony microlenses on their BSI chips if the coverglass is thinner.
Sauseschritt wrote:
Epson-Cosina, actually. With Epson probably having quite the weight in the development of that product.
And a successor would have to be full frame, which probably needs Leica technology (i.e. their patented variable size microlenses) so wide angle lenses arent a problem.
Sauseschritt wrote:
knshshnk wrote
considering the Zeiss ZM was made by Cosina anyway, I say just skip the blue badge tax Sony should've worked with them or with Voigtlander to make the spiritual successor to the R-D1 (another Cosina)And a successor would have to be full frame, which probably needs Leica technology (i.e. their patented variable size microlenses) so wide angle lenses arent a problem.
Jun 07, 2020 at 06:48 PM
p.29 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Thinner coverglas helps, yes, but doesnt solve the problem.
In fact AFAICS even original Leica still cant handle ALL old wideangle lenses. Despite thin coverglas, variable size microlenses, and finely resolved sensors.
In fact AFAICS even original Leica still cant handle ALL old wideangle lenses. Despite thin coverglas, variable size microlenses, and finely resolved sensors.
Jun 08, 2020 at 02:07 AM
p.29 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
knshshnk wrote:
I would prefer it to be an e-mount camera with EVF, no rangefinder unless they create an hybrid solution like fuji
I would consider that largely irrelevant either way, but the original R-D1 was a rangefinder. It even had a lever like a film camera, instead of a motor to prepare the shutter.
From my perspective its really about what the results out of this camera would be, not about its viewfinder technology.
I would prefer it to be an e-mount camera with EVF, no rangefinder unless they create an hybrid solution like fuji
I would consider that largely irrelevant either way, but the original R-D1 was a rangefinder. It even had a lever like a film camera, instead of a motor to prepare the shutter.
From my perspective its really about what the results out of this camera would be, not about its viewfinder technology.
Jun 08, 2020 at 02:10 AM
p.29 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
https://www.35mmc.com/08/06/2020/pixii-model-a1112-a-primer/
good to see that someone is still trying to bring the R-D1 like camera back, too bad it's just an APS-C but hope the best for the team
good to see that someone is still trying to bring the R-D1 like camera back, too bad it's just an APS-C but hope the best for the team
Jun 08, 2020 at 01:50 PM
p.29 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
knshshnk wrote:
https://www.35mmc.com/08/06/2020/pixii-model-a1112-a-primer/
good to see that someone is still trying to bring the R-D1 like camera back, too bad it's just an APS-C but hope the best for the team
3500 euros for that! DOA.
https://www.35mmc.com/08/06/2020/pixii-model-a1112-a-primer/
good to see that someone is still trying to bring the R-D1 like camera back, too bad it's just an APS-C but hope the best for the team
3500 euros for that! DOA.
Jun 08, 2020 at 06:23 PM
p.29 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The build up for the any day now release of the ZX1 is something else.
Nothing like antici-
Nothing like antici-
Jun 11, 2020 at 10:19 AM
p.29 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
good to see that someone is still trying to bring the R-D1 like camera back, too bad it's just an APS-C but hope the best for the team3500 euros for that! DOA.
Yea, that price is too steep - but I like many things about the camera in principle.
The unit price for their sensor alone is 1600 USD - pretty sure it's an ams CMV12000. It must be hard to get lower quantities of sensors as a small company. It is impressive that they can build the precision optical rangefinder and electronics around that in small batches for about another $2000 and maybe make a bit of profit.
ams makes a full-frame CMV50000 47.5mpix sensor for $5500. The prices don't seem to move down at all since they are meant for industrial applications.
knshshnk wrote
https://www.35mmc.com/08/06/2020/pixii-model-a1112-a-primer/good to see that someone is still trying to bring the R-D1 like camera back, too bad it's just an APS-C but hope the best for the team
Yea, that price is too steep - but I like many things about the camera in principle.
The unit price for their sensor alone is 1600 USD - pretty sure it's an ams CMV12000. It must be hard to get lower quantities of sensors as a small company. It is impressive that they can build the precision optical rangefinder and electronics around that in small batches for about another $2000 and maybe make a bit of profit.
ams makes a full-frame CMV50000 47.5mpix sensor for $5500. The prices don't seem to move down at all since they are meant for industrial applications.
Jun 11, 2020 at 11:18 AM
p.29 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
There was a general agreement to switch to quarterly bumps. The memo might have got caught by your spam filter.
Jul 21, 2020 at 05:18 PM
p.29 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I would not take one if they were $500 I am not going to edit and send anything with it.
I already have more capable cameras with interchangeable lenses where I can edit quickly and correctly in LR/PS.
I do wish my RX100 would let me do a couple of minor corrections, color, exposure, rotate & crop and send like a phone downsized to 72 dpi 2048x2048 for Facebook and a landscape size in similar Rez.
I think most would all like to be able to do that at least our point and shoots.
I already have more capable cameras with interchangeable lenses where I can edit quickly and correctly in LR/PS.
I do wish my RX100 would let me do a couple of minor corrections, color, exposure, rotate & crop and send like a phone downsized to 72 dpi 2048x2048 for Facebook and a landscape size in similar Rez.
I think most would all like to be able to do that at least our point and shoots.
Jul 21, 2020 at 05:35 PM
p.29 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
genji wrote:
There was a general agreement to switch to quarterly bumps. The memo might have got caught by your spam filter.
I'm thinking annual might be even better
There was a general agreement to switch to quarterly bumps. The memo might have got caught by your spam filter.
I'm thinking annual might be even better
Jul 22, 2020 at 04:37 AM